[slobro]

Madonna doesn't really have classics that transcends generations and time like say Cyndi Lauper

[Cap10Planet]

And Bruce isn't very well-known either.

[Ramos]

Originally posted by Ainsworth

Are you from outside the US? It's an amazing song, get into it.

Yes, I'm from Spain and living in Mexico right now.

[Ainsworth]

Originally posted by slobro

Madonna doesn't really have classics that transcends generations and time like say Cyndi Lauper

That's not really a bad thing. She doesn't have one HUGE defining hit like Whitney, Mariah, Celine, Cyndi etc but she does have more than one song that is memorable, just not as memorable as those girls' biggest.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

It has nothing to do with "stans of local ghetto artists." Nicole, for example, has made this point before and she hardly stans for local ghetto artists. Madonna is not that well-known to the new audiences, hence why her YouTube plays are so low. That's not to take away from her impact and longevity.

Her Glee compilation had the highest first week sales of any Glee compilation. Her songs actually went Top 10 on iTunes when she performed at the Superbowl. Her last lead single went Top 10 in 20 countries globally thanks to digital sales alone.

And Nicole is a hate mongering troll who is jealous Madonna destroyed her real fave (Gaga) with a single word and swallowed any chance she had at a legacy. Her ******** is meaningless.

[Save-Me-Oprah]

The swift 1,2 punch of pop masterpieces

http://www.metacritic.com/person/robyn

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by slobro

Madonna doesn't really have classics that transcends generations and time like say Cyndi Lauper

Holiday, Like a Virgin, Material Girl, La Isla Bonita, Vogue, Music

She has plenty.

[Guero]

Love Mariah vs Madonna

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

And Bruce isn't very well-known either.

He is well known enough to sell 3x as much as Miguel with an album of covers and outtakes and to gross literally 300 times more on tour.

[iHype.]

'Always Be My Baby' has also sold more than any pre-digital era Madonna single in US.

But even though I've proven 'Always Be My Baby' has more airplay, sales, and streams than any Madonna classic they will still find some crazy excuse because her impact is undeniable!111!

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by slobro

Madonna doesn't really have classics that transcends generations and time like say Cyndi Lauper

"Time after Time"

Too many covers

By "local ghetto acts"




Her royalties for this song

[Ainsworth]

Originally posted by Guero

Love Mariah vs Madonna

It's interesting because both are actual legends with huge careers and there can be actual debates, unlike Madonna vs Gaga where Madonna always wins.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

He is well known enough to sell 3x as much as Miguel with an album of covers and outtakes and to gross literally 300 times more on tour.

That's good, but the new audience doesn't know what a Bruce Springsteen is.

[Ainsworth]

Originally posted by iHype.

'Always Be My Baby' has also sold more than any pre-digital era Madonna single in US.

But even though I've proven 'Always Be My Baby' has more airplay, sales, and streams than any Madonna classic they will still find some crazy excuse because her impact is undeniable!111!

Uh yeah, I'm pretty sure the US isn't even Madonna's biggest market whereas Mariah is arguably more successful than her there and it's Mariah's biggest market by far.

[Giselle]

Can we pls stop arguing about these old hags let's just accept that Bey & Rihanna **** on them (still lovez mimi though ) and move along

[iHype.]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

That's good, but the new audience doesn't know what a Bruce Springsteen is.

!!

This is the thing Madonna, Bruce, etc fans don't get.

Snatch your $300 million tour, but if I ask a 12 year old to name a Madonna or Bruce Springsteen song they will draw blanker than Ciara's bank account.

This just means once they die it's not really any musical impact passed on (song memory wise!!) with artists such as MJ where a teen could name 5-10+ of their songs.

[Guero]

Originally posted by Ainsworth

It's interesting because both are actual legends with huge careers and there can be actual debates, unlike Madonna vs Gaga where Madonna always wins.

Does Madonna really win when you look at who she's beating?

[Ainsworth]

Originally posted by iHype.

!!

This is the thing Madonna, Bruce, etc fans don't get.

Snatch your $300 million tour, but if I ask a 12 year old to name a Madonna or Bruce Springsteen song they will draw blanker than Ciara's bank account.

This just means once they die it's not really any musical impact passed on (song memory wise!!) with artists such as MJ where a teen could name 5-10+ of their songs.

I HIGHLY doubt a 12 year old could name 5-10+ Mariah or Usher songs. Get real.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

That's good, but the new audience doesn't know what a Bruce Springsteen is.

At least he has an audience.

And what the hell is "the new audience"? Does ATRL think the world stops existing once you hit 25? Plenty of younger artists like Taylor Swift, Lana del Rey, hell even Gaga, talk about him and reference him. There are plenty of young people at his concerts too.

[iHype.]

Originally posted by Ainsworth

I HIGHLY doubt a 12 year old could name 5-10+ Mariah or Usher songs. Get real.

I never said they could. But they could name atleast 1 ('All I Want for Christmas Is You' ofcourse, with #Beautiful being a recent hit just last year).

And yeah, the GP definitely knows Usher, so...