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Discussion: Is "Writing" Your Own Songs Tragically Overrated?
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In a way. It's great if an artist can write their own songs, but I honestly don't care who wrote the song as long as I find it good 
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Hillary Duff – So Yesterday
"If the light is off, then it isn't on."
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nnnn; Is this legit..?? Like.. 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by TayLord
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it's not that hard 
Even though R+J and The Scarlet Letter have no immediate literary connection, Taylor's bringing the situations of both together, to relate to her situation. R+J for their forbidden love, and TSL to reinforce their defiance It'd pretty good, imo  |
Reading way too much into a misplaced metaphor and pretending it makes perfect sense when it's just not a good metaphor. Just deal sis. Like you said, she was 17. Alluding to committing adultery.
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It's laughable that you're using those examples, why don't you use some of their actual song writing samples? Are you afraid you might clock yourself?
And only someone whose fave is not able to write properly would make such a thread, now that we're at it.
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Originally posted by GeorgiaStars
Only stans of artists who cannot write songs will think songwriting is overrated. It makes no sense, how would a song with 8 songwriters in which the performer is rarely included (and if they are, it's for a very small part of the song) be more personal than a song written by only one person (or 2-3 people)?
Might only be my personal taste here, but a song written only by one artist will always be more special to the fans and the artist than a song written by 8 people and produced by 6.
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When it comes too a song being special to me, I feel like it doesn't matter who wrote the song as long as the actual lyrics connect to me.
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Originally posted by Fenty The Great
Did you click a link to Ke$ha's career wiki by accident?  |
Why would you say that
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Hillary Duff – So Yesterday
"If the light is off, then it isn't on."
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Why did this give me Logic teas 
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Originally posted by Fenty The Great
Except the scarlet letter was a symbol of committing adultery, not just being "scandalous." Maybe you don't get it, sis.
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You're not getting it By committing adultery, Hester was going against the 17th century society, just like Taylor and her boyfriend are going against their parents thus defiance
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Originally posted by Mr.Link
It's laughable that you're using those examples, why don't you use some of their actual song writing samples? Are you afraid you might clock yourself?
And only someone whose fave is not able to write properly would make such a thread, now that we're at it.
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The funniest part is, I'm not even the one clocking these lyrics, I pulled all of the OP examples from this article
https://au.launch.yahoo.com/gallerie...time/16867948/
So I'm a bit lost as to why everyone is in here fuming at me when publications have already shaded your fave
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Originally posted by Fenty The Great
Except the scarlet letter was a symbol of committing adultery, not just being "scandalous." Maybe you don't get it, sis.
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.... thats literally what I said
And its called an allusion
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Originally posted by Fenty The Great
Reading way too much into a misplaced metaphor and pretending it makes perfect sense when it's just not a good metaphor. Just deal sis. Like you said, she was 17. Alluding to committing adultery.
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i think you're the one that needs to deal  Taylor's (and the other's you've mentioned in the OP) a good songwriter, just let the light in, accept it, and move on 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Black Umbrella
That's talent???????
"You a stupid hoe / You a / You a stupid hoe / (stupid, stupid)."
Okay then:
Yay I'm so talented !! I even used more words than Nicki so I'm more talented !!
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You're sorta kinda ****ing stupid.
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Originally posted by Fenty The Great
The funniest part is, I'm not even the one clocking these lyrics, I pulled all of the OP examples from this article
https://au.launch.yahoo.com/gallerie...time/16867948/
So I'm a bit lost as to why everyone is in here fuming at me when publications have already shaded your fave |
A made a post a few pages back about this; a songwriter isn't always perfect and very mature. Some lyrics are added just to fit the song or to make a song enjoyable on the radio, but that doesn't exclude all the other well written songs. We're not talking about being a perfect songwriter here.
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Originally posted by Fenty The Great
The funniest part is, I'm not even the one clocking these lyrics, I pulled all of the OP examples from this article
https://au.launch.yahoo.com/gallerie...time/16867948/
So I'm a bit lost as to why everyone is in here fuming at me when publications have already shaded your fave |
Maybe because your title is implying all personal songwriting is tragically overrated instead of just the ones that truly deserve the finger-pointing. Truly, I'm holding back everything I REALLY want to say to you because I write my own songs. So you've been insulting me and a handful of singer-songwriters for the past 7 pages, but I'm not going to punch back because your title doesn't equate what your OP mentions.
So, to answer your question, it is not "tragically overrated", but we shouldn't assume that all singer-songwriters are above the rest; they're artists just like the others with one of their talents being "writing their own songs"! 
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Originally posted by prunejuicemontes
No. It's not overrated. Songwriting shows you have talent.
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I can't believe this is even a question that needs to be asked.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
Using Ed Sheeran lyrics when your fave is Rihanna?! Does that bitch even play an instrument?!
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Originally posted by castle13
Considered overrated by stans of artists who lack songwriting ability
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Tove Lo, ha power to write her own songs and slay them.
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Originally posted by Nait Phoenix
Maybe because your title is implying all personal songwriting is tragically overrated instead of just the ones that truly deserve the finger-pointing. Truly, I'm holding back everything I REALLY want to say to you because I write my own songs. So you've been insulting me and a handful of singer-songwriters for the past 7 pages, but I'm not going to punch back because your title doesn't equate what your OP mentions.
So, to answer your question, it is not "tragically overrated", but we shouldn't assume that all singer-songwriters are above the rest; they're artists just like the others with one of their talents being "writing their own songs"! |
Girl, obviously I'm not saying everyone who writes a song is untalented. The songs getting praise for being "written" by some of these mainstream artists just happen to have terrible lyrics which is my point. Anyone can write a bad song, and doing so doesn't make you talented.
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Originally posted by Fenty The Great
Girl, obviously I'm not saying everyone who writes a song is untalented. The songs getting praise for being "written" by some of these mainstream artists just happen to have terrible lyrics which is my point. Anyone can write a bad song, and doing so doesn't make you talented.
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It's only overrated when the lyrics you're serving up are trash. You're here to make good music and if you can't write songs then don't force your crappy lyrics on the world. Good music is a package of different component and lyrics are big a part of that; you don't get a gold star just because you decided to publish evidence of your own lack of talent as a writer. Can't write? Get a writer who knows what they're doing. 
However if you're a genuinely good songwriter-musician like Dolly Parton or Bruce Springsteen or Billy Joel, then it's not overrated at all. 
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