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Originally posted by cheers09
so just because Artrave is successful PWT cant be as well? the logic  |
What, where did I say that? Both are succesful, but he asked which was more successful and from the reported dates so far, it's artrave.
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 finally US radio are playing good songs
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LM logic: it's better to play one date and have 100% of attendance than play two and earn more as the demand is high. I hope they will attend some basic economics lesson someday.
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Originally posted by Blues
What, where did I say that? Both are succesful, but he asked which was more successful.
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he was comparing the CDT and PWT. not the Artrave.....
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Originally posted by Fred Perry
Ew, some people are SO transparent it's unbearable.
It's funny, for years The California Dreams tour has been deemed unsuccessful by a certain fanbase because of it's "low" gross, even though the total attendance was at 98% But NOW, it's all about the attendance and not the gross 
People saying artRave is more successful than The PRISMATIC World tour  Give me a ****ing break, Katy slays RatGa in every single department and you will DEAL. Take a ****ing seat |
The CDT had 98% attendance because tickets were dirt cheap and most of her European and some American venues were extremely small (4-10K capacities). The UK dates of PWT have both disappointing gross ($900K average in one of the biggest touring markets for one of the biggest superstars, if not THE biggest at the moment, is underwhelming) and attendance.
artRAVE is doing more than fine considering Gaga's current career status.
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Originally posted by cheers09
he was comparing the CDT and PWT. not the Artrave.....
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Oh sorry then, was reffering to this post.
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Originally posted by Fred Perry
Ew, some people are SO transparent it's unbearable.
It's funny, for years The California Dreams tour has been deemed unsuccessful by a certain fanbase because of it's "low" gross, even though the total attendance was at 98% But NOW, it's all about the attendance and not the gross
People saying artRave is more successful than The PRISMATIC World tour Give me a ****ing break, Katy slays RatGa in every single department and you will DEAL. Take a ****ing seat |
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Originally posted by Blues
Oh sorry
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apology accepted! since i'm a very forgiving person!
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The new episode of Pretty Little Liars. Dear lord  Poor other abc shows
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PRISMATIC
avg. gross $1,089,273
avg. tickets 12,674
avg. price $85.94
unsold tickets 6,713 (three shows)
sold out shows 2/5
artRAVE
avg. gross $992,725
avg. tickets 12,675
avg. price $78.32
unsold tickets 0
sold out shows 2/2
Gaga only wins when it comes to sold out shows but I feel like that's going to change.
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#27 Netherlands (=)
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#31 Austria (-1)
#51 Sweden (-3)
#58 Switzerland (-7)
#69 Australia (-10)
Jenny is so ****ed up, she couldn't even reach top 50 on iTunes in some of the important markets.
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Originally posted by Duca
PRISMATIC
avg. gross $1,089,273
avg. tickets 12,674
avg. price $85.94
unsold tickets 6,713 (three shows)
sold out shows 2/5
Gaga only wins when it comes to sold out shows but I feel like that's going to change.
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UNITED KINGDOM TOTAL: ... $5,446,365 63,371 / 70,084 (90%)
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5,4m total gross from 6 dates = 900k average per date.
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Tux, since when do you stan for Lana, I might start liking you now 
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It looks like they are cutting down the total capacity to make Gaga's shows look sold out
Other artists sold more tickets at the same venues and it's not like Gaga's stage is big or anything.
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Originally posted by Nialler
LM logic: it's better to play one date and have 100% of attendance than play two and earn more as the demand is high. I hope they will attend some basic economics lesson someday.
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I mean, I don't know exactly, but I assume playing two dates means substantially higher costs (renting the venue, production costs etc.) than playing one. The fact is the PWT is grossing in 2 dates what other big tours gross in one night in the same venues (BTWB in Manchester, one date, gross $1.8M; Mrs Carter Show in Manchester, five dates, average gross $1.7M --> PWT, two dates, gross: 1.8M), and that's not because of low tickets prices but because of underwhelming attendances (Gaga, Beyoncé, P!nk averaged 15-17K people per night in Manchester, Katy just 10,5K). That's odd because the rest of the tour (NA and Australia) seems to be doing extremely well.
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
I mean, I don't know exactly, but I assume playing two dates means substantially higher costs (renting the venue, production costs etc.) than playing one. The fact is the PWT is grossing in 2 dates what other big tours gross in one night in the same venues (BTWB in Manchester, one date, gross $1.8M; Mrs Carter Show in Manchester, five dates, average gross $1.7M --> PWT, two dates, gross: 1.8M), and that's not because of low tickets prices but because of underwhelming attendances (Gaga, Beyoncé, P!nk averaged 15-17K people per night in Manchester, Katy just 10,5K). That's odd because the rest of the tour (NA and Australia) seems to be doing extremely well.
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That awful Unconditionally performance changed the way the GP sees ha there. I don't think many wanted to go to her show and experience that horror again after that.
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
I mean, I don't know exactly, but I assume playing two dates means substantially higher costs (renting the venue, production costs etc.) than playing one.
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If it wasn't bringing profits they wouldn't do that. They're not idiots...
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Originally posted by Duca
It's five shows. Only one show at the LG arena was reported, not two.
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Belfast, IR Odyssey Arena $1,658,690 18,553 / 18,553 (100%)
Birmingham, UK ** LG Arena $1,050,485 12,242 / 13,984 (87%)
Manchester, UK Phones 4u Arena $1,796,590 21,343 / 24,951(86%)
Sheffield, UK ** Motorpoint Arena $...940,600 11,233 / 12,596 (89%)
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Belfast and Manchester are two dates.
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Originally posted by Duca
PRISMATIC
avg. gross $1,089,273
avg. tickets 12,674
avg. price $85.94
unsold tickets 6,713 (three shows)
sold out shows 2/5
artRAVE
avg. gross $992,725
avg. tickets 12,675
avg. price $78.32
unsold tickets 0
sold out shows 2/2
Gaga only wins when it comes to sold out shows but I feel like that's going to change.
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PRISMATIC
avg. gross $907,000
avg. tickets 10,561
avg. price $85.94
unsold tickets 6,713 (four shows)
sold out shows 2/6
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Member Since: 12/29/2011
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both tours are under performing
Katy because she is in her peak and is struggling to sell out shows (bar Australia)
Gaga when you compare artrave to her previous tours
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Member Since: 3/30/2009
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Originally posted by Blues
5,4m total gross from 6 dates = 900k average per date.
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Katy's team reported them to Billboard as one. 
PRISMATIC
avg. gross $907,728
avg. tickets 10,562
avg. price $85.94
unsold tickets 6,713 (four shows)
sold out shows 2/6
artRAVE
avg. gross $992,725
avg. tickets 12,675
avg. price $78.32
unsold tickets 0
sold out shows 2/2
Poor Katy!
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