[Ace Reject]

Originally posted by katara

Oh I see the masters of pretentious snobiness, RYB and cap10 are at it again. I hope they know they would be shot if they talked in real life like that.

Girl, you had seven points. Now you're at eight. Was it worth it?

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by katara

Oh I see the masters of pretentious snobiness, RYB and cap10 are at it again. I hope they know they would be shot if they talked in real life like that.

Yeah, we're "pretentious" and "snobbish" because it's a known fact that Beyonce is a bigger star than Chris's and Drake's nutrag? Sorry the truth hurts so badly. Y'all kweens are always mad at the truth. Grow a pair and get out those sissified attitudes.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by Ace Reject

Don't forget Emmys!

Angelina - 1/2 way to EGOT

Jen An - 1/4 way to EGOT.

Who will get there first?

Cyndi Lauper is closer than both of them.

[katara]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

Beyonce's star is so big that it seems that her songs are bigger than what they really are. To me "Run The World," "Love on Top," "Partition" and "Drunk in Love" felt like big hits, and I don't think it has anything to do with environmental reasons either. Those songs are more quoted than say, "The One That Got Away" - which was way more successful than those songs. Am I tripping or no?

Of course you are tripping. Only black homosexual bottom males & white edgy-acting homosexual wiggers (hello Jameson) feel this way.

Everyone else knows Katy's huge hits while they only know of Beyonce'ss name but not her flop songs.

[Lipton]

Wealth is a determinant of success, but it isn't direct success. Bernard is now a celebrity (primary) and musician (secondary).

I agree that his success and brand is no longer tied to his musical success or contributions. However, the Hive sees that as a good thing. Rihanna is a musician that is a celebrity. Her success and value is still rooted to her b0ps and contributions to music.

So, yes... Bernard can earn more money because he really isn't a musician anymore. It doesn't mean Rihanna isn't more successful.

[Ace Reject]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

Cyndi Lauper is closer than both of them.

All she needs is for someone to make the musical version of Kinky Boots into a movie! Et voila!

[FAME.]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

You're not. I think it's because a lot of people who are casual fans of Beyoncé don't purchase music, and are proud to do that. The college crowd WORSHIPS her, and they don't buy anything.

It's because people outside of the stan world don't really give a **** about sales/charts or any of that. That stuff doesn't matter in the real world.

[Allstar]

Originally posted by katyperryismylife

Speaking of those ones that got away



The Oscar that got away

I will never forgive that nympho Grace Kelly for stealing what was rightfully Judy's.

Or how Judy called Grace that night and called her a ***** on the phone. How classy.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by Lipton

Wealth is a determinant of success, but it isn't direct success. Bernard is now a celebrity (primary) and musician (secondary).

I agree that his success and brand is no longer tied to his musical success or contributions. However, the Hive sees that as a good thing. Rihanna is a musician that is a celebrity. Her success and value is still rooted to her b0ps and contributions to music.

So, yes... Bernard can earn more money because he really isn't a musician anymore. It doesn't mean Rihanna isn't more successful.

This would make sense if BEYONCÉ wasn't the most acclaimed album by any pop girl since Ray Of Light.

Her celebrity and star power is based off being one of the premier musicians of her generation. You can't separate them.

[Ace Reject]

I see both points here.

People usually 18-30 know Bey her music - even if it's only been Urban. Anyone under/over that? NOPE.

[slobro]

Rihanna is set for life regardless if Beyonce makes more money
But Rihanna has globally known music on top of that, while Beyonce doesn't. Music not the bling

[RihannasVeryOwn]

If were talking about MUSIC on a MUSIC forum I don't really understand how money comes into the equation.

Also, if Beyonce is such a huge star why can't she coax people into buying her singles? Or even her album ww? Let's not go into the crazy predictions the hive made, 21 2.0 and the like. How can't she outsell Rihanna's last album even with the undeserved critical acclaim and gimmick release? Enlighten me

[Allstar]

Beyoncé's semi-hits might be more quoted in the US but people don't even know those songs at all in some other parts of the world. She's basically non-existent here.

What she needs is a real hit again.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn

If were talking about MUSIC on a MUSIC forum I don't really understand how money comes into the equation.

Because it's a pop music forum.

Y'all really love to suddenly pretend we're on 4chan /mu/ discussing indie music and that talking about charts/certifications/grosses isn't talking about money

[Elusive Chanteuse]

Originally posted by katara

Everyone else knows Katy's huge hits while they only know of Beyonce'ss name but not her flop songs.

Katy's known more for her breasts than her music.

[RihannasVeryOwn]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

This would make sense if BEYONCÉ wasn't the most acclaimed album by any pop girl since Ray Of Light.

http://www.metacritic.com/music/sale-el-sol/shakira

[I. AX]

Beyonce is the biggest name in music. There is no denying it.

Is she the most successful? nope, that would be ICON,

[Lipton]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

Her celebrity and star power is based off being one of the premier musicians of her generation. You can't separate them.

Yes, you can. And his celebrity is based on the mystique, brand, and image of Bernard the person. As far as music goes, he is musically irrelevant.

People aren't really into him because of the music. It's more about the buy-in of the curiosity that surrounds him. Musically, he is a non-factor.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn

http://www.metacritic.com/music/sale-el-sol/shakira

based on 5 Critics

[G.U.Y. Gaga]

Not to disrupt but a friend just made me listen to this and the album



Slayed

Ray of Who