[FatShady]

she's never had a promoted sing that flopped

[PULSE.]

Originally posted by Fenty The Great

Yes sis, they RUSHED Where Have You Been even though it was released 6 months after And your argument doesn't even make sense because Cheers wasn't a flop and WFL came directly after that. Try again. Girls WISH they could chart as high as Rihanna's flops.

I said Cheers came AFTER the 2 flops. What part are you missing? This thread is about Katy & Gaga and Katy's flops chart higher than Rihanna's. Where's the lie?

[EloiseheartsRiRi]

But a snippet song like Birthday Cake with no promo, no music video sold 1 million copies which is more than some of the popgirls lead single sales.

[NewRihannaStan]

PIU did exceptionally well I mean top 20 without a video until months later and no promo . Some pop girls recent singles just struggled to get into the top 20 after a video and a performance ..

[Rider]

Originally posted by Comedor

So now you understand.

Understand what? Are you talking about Beyonce now or what?
I honestly don't know what you're talking about.

Not you editing 3 times tho

[GlitterBitch]

Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn

Her hit to flop ratio isnt as bad as the other girls.

This and she's released 10 X more singles and she's in different lane to them. The Queen of R&B andd ha power.

[zzmyth]

FLOPS IN THE US:


#64 Rockstar - video + 1 tv performance (her lowest radio audience EVER) and yet it went GOLD

#37 California King Bed - video + 2 TV performances - Vevo certified +160M views video + PLATINUM

#59 Man Down - only video - Vevo certified smash +260M Views video + GOLD

#31 TTT - none - PLATINUM

#14 YD1 - only video - Vevo certified video + 1.4M copies sold

#50 Right Now - none - GOLD

#25 What Now - Just the Video - soon to be Vevo certified +95M Views video + GOLD

[sgcat]

Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan

Yes

but the monsters also take pride in their fav taking risks. so why does this argument work in favour for rihanna and not gaga?

[NewRihannaStan]

Originally posted by FatShady

she's never had a promoted sing that flopped

CKB

[PULSE.]

Originally posted by Comedor

Interesting.

Very Interesting indeed.

[Fenty The Great]

Originally posted by PULSE.

I said Cheers came AFTER the 2 flops. What part are you missing? This thread is about Katy & Gaga and Katy's flops chart higher than Rihanna's. Where's the lie?

You also said RIhana rushes ALBUMS after flop singles, hun. Don't backtrack now because you've been clocked left and right. Rihanna's only flops that were promoted on par with any Katy or Gaga single is CKB and RS101

[J a y]

Don't know, but you're right in mentioning how bad Gaga's treatment is, when overall, she hasn't done bad at all.

Originally posted by J a y

1. Hit (Top 5)
2. Moderate Hit (Top 10)
3. Flop (< Top 10)

1. 2.5 - 7 million
2. 2 - 3 million
3. < 1 million

1. JDance, Poker F, LoveGame, Bad Romance, Telephone, Alejandro, Born This Way, Edge of Glory, Applause
2. Paparazzi, Judas, Yoü And I
3. Marry The Night, Do What U Want, G.U.Y.

Sure, I wouldn't be delusional and say she hasn't hit a rough patch, but it's just a bad era.

[zzmyth]

Originally posted by TheNight

I got the Rihanna numbers from here. I know it's Wikipedia, but how else was I to find a list of all her singles? I assumed it was correct, my bad.

And yes, Rihanna and Katy have so many #1's.

But my point still stands. Even if you just include #1's, Rihanna's ratio isn't stellar. But again, those 13 #1's are extremely commendable. It's just the ratio that's not.

are you really telling me that more than 1 out of 4 singles going #1 aint stellar? CMON...

[NewRihannaStan]

She only has 7 flops thought she had more

[RihannaLoverrr]

Originally posted by sgcat

but if im not wrong, all of katy's 'flops' are at least platinum. with the exception of birthday (which is her current single?)

so vevo certification is more impt than sales?

Let me get this straight, you make a thread asking a question, however, once people answer your reply is always something like but Katy... Katy... Etc. So am I right in saying the only way you're going to be satisfied is if someone says Katy's singles are more successful than the rest & Rihanna's flops flop harder than Katy's and because she doesent get shaded for it and Katy does youre pressed AF?

[swissman]

Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi

But a snippet song like Birthday Cake with no promo, no music video sold 1 million copies which is more than some of the popgirls lead single sales.

Did it sell 1 million copies prior to the Chris Brown remix though? If so, that's pretty great.

[sgcat]

Originally posted by RihannaLoverrr

Let me get this straight, you make a thread asking a question, however, once people answer your reply is always something like but Katy... Katy... Etc. So am I right in saying the only way you're going to be satisfied is if someone says Katy's singles are more successful than the rest & Rihanna's flops flop harder than Katy's and because she doesent get shaded for it and Katy does youre pressed AF?

i did mention gaga too. and i started the thread discussing katy, gaga and rihanna right? do you expect me to talk about adele or taylor swift?

[PULSE.]

Originally posted by Fenty The Great

You also said RIhana rushes ALBUMS after flop singles, hun. Don't backtrack now because you've been clocked left and right.

Her team does. So where is my backtracking when I'm standing by what I said? When there's no more hits left BOOM here's her team putting out a new album. Take it how you wanna take it. If you get offended by that, oh well.

[Rihinvention]

Originally posted by sgcat

but the monsters also take pride in their fav taking risks. so why does this argument work in favour for rihanna and not gaga?

Your join date + low post count + defence of Gaga despite having 'Katy X Rihanna' in your sig makes me think that this is someone's dupe hahahaha

[zzmyth]

Originally posted by swissman

Did it sell 1 million copies prior to the Chris Brown remix though? If so, that's pretty great.

It sold 1.5M copies of that SNIPPET.

The CB remix was never released or made it available to purchase.

It was freed in the Internet actually...