[Liana]

Originally posted by alestevens

Because Problem is following the very same pattern as one of the biggest hits of the year, and it features the hottest rapper of the moment. It does help that she promoted it to hell and back in its debut week

And it was up for pre orders for like a week before it's release. It's also getting excessive airplay already and getting two award show performances in the debut week can be very effective and didn't she get Ellen too? She also had the lyric video to boost her debut.

[alestevens]

Originally posted by Miley Cyrus

BUT WHAT COULD THEY DO IN ONE WEEK??????????????
All she got was a RDMA performance () and outpeaked Demi's and Selena's discography and you're already praising her label as if they've done the absolute most in promoting Problem

1. It had more award performances on debut week
2. Same formula as one of the biggest hits of the year
3. Features the hottest rapper of the moment
4. It had like 3 days of preorders

[Rob_Matteo]

Originally posted by Miley Cyrus

And Ariana is just starting too. Poor excuses. Really saddening.

And yet she's still not outselling Demi and Selena significantly in album sales especially compared to their debut albums...

[rac7d]

We all knew she could blow up ever since then

I was saying Victoria who for the rest of the season

[havefaithrestart]

because demi and selena spend more time shading their peers than making good music.

[Miley Cyrus]

Originally posted by Rob_Matteo

And yet she's still not outselling Demi and Selena significantly in album sales especially compared to their debut albums...

It's a different time. It has been reported that album sales have significantly declined in 2013. And it's not like Yours Truly is very far off Demi's debut album sales so I wouldn't run my mouth if I was a Demi stan. And I'm pretty sure if she released back then she would stomp on the both of them combined.

[Liana]

Originally posted by Rob_Matteo

Using Skyscraper is even worse because it was literally her first step in a sense of promoting music on a more broad basis.

and it was a ballad released in summer, as if anyone wants to buy depressing songs in summer.

[Miley Cyrus]

Originally posted by havefaithrestart

because demi and selena spend more time shading their peers than making good music.

The truth has prevailed!

[Sasha.]

Originally posted by alestevens

1. It had more award performances on debut week
2. Same formula as one of the biggest hits of the year
3. Features the hottest rapper of the moment
4. It had like 3 days of preorders

3 days of preorders do not 438k copies sell

[Liana]

Originally posted by Miley Cyrus

It's a different time. It has been reported that album sales have significantly declined in 2013. And it's not like Yours Truly is very far off Demi's debut album sales so I wouldn't run my mouth if I was a Demi stan. And I'm pretty sure if she released back then she would stomp on the both of them combined.

how are you so sure when Put Your Hearts Up flopped

[Theus]

Well the public right now seems to like her more. Lets see if she can continue the outdoing Demi and Selena and no went into a downhill like she did with the "Yours Truly" era

[Rob_Matteo]

Originally posted by Miley Cyrus

It's a different time. It has been reported that album sales have significantly declined in 2013. And it's not like Yours Truly is very far off Demi's debut album sales so I wouldn't run my mouth if I was a Demi stan. And I'm pretty sure if she released back then she would stomp on the both of them combined.

Now you're the one making excuses and assumptions.

But hey, let's see where Ariana will be 3-4 years from now on her fourth album!

[Miley Cyrus]

Originally posted by Liana

and it was a ballad released in summer, as if anyone wants to buy depressing songs in summer.

So now that you can't use the label and promo excuses for skyscraper you're gonna blame the weather
It was her choice to release it when she did if there was high demand for it then it doesn't matter what season it is + you're forgetting that there was hype for Skyscraper for her little rehab stint.

[Memphis]

Originally posted by ryanpittman97

Because she's better all around. Better music, better reviews, better sales, better person, etc. Her and Miley are like the it girls right now.

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[SelenaTheWinner]

Originally posted by Miley Cyrus

I can't understand the logic behind the label excuses when the song has only been out for ONE WEEK

I cant understand the logic behind 1 week sales meaning you're outselling discographies. Does it mean Ari is more succesful than Beyonce, Shakira, Cheryl Cole, J Lo...?
This thread is not made to praise Ariana & celebrate her success, its to bash Selena[mostly.]

[Ichinaru19]

Talent stays winning

[rac7d]

Originally posted by Miley Cyrus

It's a different time. It has been reported that album sales have significantly declined in 2013. And it's not like Yours Truly is very far off Demi's debut album sales so I wouldn't run my mouth if I was a Demi stan. And I'm pretty sure if she released back then she would stomp on the both of them combined.

Yeah didnt dont forget take 4 years to go gold
while she was on tv, 3 singles and basicly following around the biggest boyband at the time

[Miley Cyrus]

Originally posted by SelenaTheWinner

I cant understand the logic behind 1 week sales meaning you're outselling discographies. Does it mean Ari is more succesful than Beyonce, Shakira, Cheryl Cole, J Lo...?
This thread is not made to praise Ariana & celebrate her success, its to bash Selena[mostly.]

I never said outselling, I said outpeaking their discographies. READ.

[Squall]

I don't get why you all blame HWR. This is SO easy.
Just because they made some messy eras in the past does not mean they are still bad.

They promoted C&GI (+ probably a high budget video) & HA (less than C&GI if I'm right but still), they sent the songs to radios, they did everything another label would have done.

It is NOT HWR's fault if C&GI/HA did not blew up (even tho they were still success at least in the US).
Problem has been out for a week, radios completely LOVE it (more than any Demi or Selena song) and it has just debuted with 438k copies.
Ariana became bigger when she literally had anything to justify it (4th biggest opening for a female single when the 3 others are Taylor, Katy & Gaga aka artists that had huge eras to pull out those sales...while Ariana sold about 430k copies of Yours Truly in the US).

No point with their labels. Just no, don't.

[onna]

Originally posted by Rob_Matteo

And yet she's still not outselling Demi and Selena significantly in album sales especially compared to their debut albums...

Lets not even go there with debut albums when Ariana's debut album will easily outsell Demi's in not even half the time.

Demi was on tour with the biggest boyband, in a big Disney movie and had a show yet it took her how many years to reach that gold plateau