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Discussion: Cultural Appropriation: Too Serious?
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Originally posted by Aciid
I honestly feel like this is only a problem in the US. I guess it's due to the amount of diverse cultures from immigrants. I as a Mexican find nothing wrong in using my culture as long as you are not making fun of it or mocking it. People are just too damn sensitive sometimes.
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That's what appropriation IS. Appropriation isn't simply taking. Appropriation disrespectful misuse and abuse.
Y'all are in here acting like it's not a big deal, but that disrespectful misuse and abuse contribute to a widely shared mindset and a pervading system that collaboratively have the power to get me shot. I don't want to get shot, so please act like you have some sense. 
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Member Since: 1/19/2012
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I don't get offended, but I do think it's kind of lazy 
It works both ways too. I am so sick and tired of Japanese game companies thinking they can just throw a few guns into a game and expect the West to lap it up.
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
That's what appropriation IS. Appropriation isn't simply taking. Appropriation disrespectful misuse and abuse.
Y'all are in here acting like it's not a big deal, but that disrespectful misuse and abuse contribute to a widely shared mindset and a pervading system that collaboratively have the power to get me shot. I don't want to get shot, so please act like you have some sense. |
but we're all agree that it's a bad thing though the person you replied to said it's a bad thing
literally we have specifically said taking a culture and mocking it or whatever similar way is bad
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I do think sometimes it's overblown but when I think of Katy doing a performance using my culture...let me just say I rather her not do it.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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People mix up appropriation with bastardizing. I think wearing and sharing cultural motifs is a positive and beautiful thing. Usually, no harm is meant nor done.
Bastardizing is when idiots make fun of the cultural items and do it as a joke.
There's a fine line, but there's more positive to sharing culture than keeping it to oneself. Do we not all benefit from sharing foods? Sharing entertainment? Sharing fashion trends? It's the same thing.
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I don't give a **** about it, tbh. People are getting their blood pressure high over nothing now a days
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
No, cultures definitely mix in the U.S. Like, a lot. Immigrant communities tend to stick together, yes, but their children become part of the melting pot and tend to blend with multiple cultures.
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But even within the individual children it's not a complete mix. The new culture and the one of the parents often clash which leads to identity crises. I know this very well because it's something I struggle with myself.
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Originally posted by Heroine
But the point is that when Miley twerks and uses slang, she's cool and trendy. When a black person does that, they're classified as being ghetto, ratchet etc.
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no Miley was definitely seen as ghetto, ratchet and trashy by the majority.
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Originally posted by Arking
You would defend the practice.
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What Avril did was absolutely fine, even the majority of the Japanese reaction I saw were NOT offended by it. So why do you (not specifically you, just in general) have the right to be offended by something when you're not even Japanese? Makes no sense.
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The problem is that most people take something that is sacred and culturally important from other cultures such as bindis or catholic rosaries and just use them for fashion with even knowing or practicing the beliefs behind them.
its gross.
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Member Since: 3/7/2014
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I don't see the issue. Everyone appropriates from each other. Why is it only a problem when white people do it? I swear, people always find a way to get angry for the sake of getting angry.
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People shouldn't waste time to give a single f*** to these kinda things...
cultural appropriation.. 
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I hate it when some people moan about their culture being ignored in the media, and when it becomes viral, they scream appropriation. There's no pleasing some people.
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Originally posted by 91Winchester
I hate it when some people moan about their culture being ignored in the media, and when it becomes viral, they scream appropriation. There's no pleasing some people.
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Shut your stupid White ass up.
When I say I want Black people on TV, Black thugs and housemaids are NOT ****ing enough.
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Member Since: 3/7/2014
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
Shut your stupid White ass up.
When I say I want Black people on TV, Black thugs and housemaids are NOT ****ing enough.
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White people have less than positive stereotypes on television, such as rednecks or trailer park people. That never seems to be a problem. However, it seems some blacks want their representation to be of a higher plane all the time. The rest of society is OK with their own bad representation, and so should you.
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I think it depends strongly on the context, but in many cases, yes, it is blown out of proportion. For example, I do think it's true that in American music, white artists have taken elements from black artists and gone on to become much more successful, because those elements were considered brutish or ghetto at first but became "cool" when white artists started to embrace them. In cases like this one, I do think it's problematic.
However, the outcry over something like the Hello Kitty video is completely baffling to me. Avril is a huge artist in Japan and it's clear that she has a love for the culture so to me the video is obviously a well-intentioned nod towards Japanese culture and I have no idea how it could possibly create the harm that the tons of articles written on it would have you believe it's doing.
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Member Since: 6/23/2012
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I just don't see why people think the "Hello Kitty" video isn't an accurate depiction of Japanese culture. That's LITERALLY what Japan is like, at least, that's how it was when I went there. When things become inaccurate but get associated with the culture is when it becomes a problem.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
Shut your stupid White ass up.
When I say I want Black people on TV, Black thugs and housemaids are NOT ****ing enough.
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You think white people want Honey Booboo, Jersey Shore, and Kim Kardashian all over TV? We know that entertainment isn't exactly reflective of real life.
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black people are more hurt by local news, showing all these mugshots of actual black thugs and criminals disproportionately, than an episode of CSI or the Wire.
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Member Since: 1/13/2010
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
That's what appropriation IS. Appropriation isn't simply taking. Appropriation disrespectful misuse and abuse.
Y'all are in here acting like it's not a big deal, but that disrespectful misuse and abuse contribute to a widely shared mindset and a pervading system that collaboratively have the power to get me shot. I don't want to get shot, so please act like you have some sense. |
What does cultural appropriation (even if we agree to call it hurtful and damaging to, say, the black population) have to do with the systems in place that enable actual violence against minorities?
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