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Discussion: Are Katy and Rih the Last Girls Standing?
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It's time for this thread to close. Rihanna is still standing. Katy Perry is still standing. Beyoncé is still standing.
Gaga.... i'm not sure yet...
Britney is lying down. 
This shouldn't be about comparing numbers etc, it's just obvious
Beyoncé has not suffered a recent career downfall, she is relevant rn, she is still standing...period. I mean this argument is tragic...
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I love how Rihanna's stans are bragging about Rihanna outselling Beyoncé in terms of records sales like Rihanna doesn't have almost twice the amount of albums and eras as Beyoncé does as a solo act.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Beyoncé sell 120- 130 million records with 4 albums and Rihanna 170-180 with 7?
Assuming I'm right, how is that anything to brag about?
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Aww @ the Navy acting like she was pouring it up for all of those 9 years. How cute 
Well they can still milk the cash cow, so they don't need to find a replacement yet. It's that simple. It's nothing to rest assured on. |
She's been almost in this industry for 10 years sis... You claim that there were other replacements but can't name them? Rihanna hasn't released an album for almost two years now and she's still in headlines for her dating life, fashion choices ect. Now you tell me how she's a replacement for someone thats never been like her before.
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So ridiculous! Beyoncé has outsold both albums in less than 6 months. Stay a bitter delusional mess. It's quite obvious. The desperate try hards are so odd. Always trying to undermine Beyoncé. It's embarrassing. Seek help. She has also sold millions of singles this era as well. Not sure what she has to do to get people to just be real and respectable individuals and just give congrats when they are due. Especially after coming off of 4. 
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
Since the only things that matter are Grammys, touring and albums.
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They aren't the only things that matter but you can't be mad that a certain Stan base has puts more emphasis on that when you do the same with singles.
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
I think you misunderstood, which isn't my problem
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Well you said it yourself. Rihanna is Rihanna.
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Originally posted by KillerBeyBitch
Oh 132 shows suddenly became 200+.
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My bad.
Still doesn't change the fact that you guys are acting like she is doing some out of this world thing. She has had double the amount of time as Katy and Rihanna to build a fanbase and touring reputation, so using that as receipts is not only stupid, but makes you guys look petty because you can't use single sales and debatable album sales.
The public doesn't care, nor do they remember touring receipts. Majority of the public also does NOT care about tours in general. Tours are never in the news, they're never talked about outside of their stanbase, and they are never referenced in terms of an artists legacy.
Does anyone mention Michael Jackson tours when talking about him? Madonna? No. Tours are good for the artist's bank account, but that is it.
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Originally posted by idkher
Lmaooo this is how you know someone is stuck in the past and ignoring facts. This may have been true in 2006 but now? Rihanna is a pop culture icon. Multiple Vogue covers in the span of three years, respected fashion icon, 14 million albums sold since 2010 alone, more #1 singles than Madonna and the biggest trendsetter in pop music. You're telling me that's replaceable? Only the hive |
Even Kim Kardashian can get a Vogue cover these days. Come back when she has a higher selling issue than the first lady though 
That is a cultural icon.
She has nice fashion, but I can also see that on lookbook.nu 
She has a good stylist, that's it. Again, something she can't claim herself.
Comparing #1's to Madonna is ridiculous. Different decades and different methods of how singles sold.
Yes, she is replaceable. That is what I am telling you. I'm not saying she's Selena Gomez, I'm saying she really isn't any of what you want her to be. She has nice clothes and has been on the cover of Vogue. Wow, she's something.
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Bey's world tour gross without the US still out grosses some of your faves entire world tour gross, yet she's the local one
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Originally posted by PrettyHurts
It's time for this thread to close. Rihanna is still standing. Katy Perry is still standing. Beyoncé is still standing.
Gaga.... i'm not sure yet...
Britney is lying down.
This shouldn't be about comparing numbers etc, it's just obvious
Beyoncé has not suffered a recent career downfall, she is relevant rn, she is still standing...period. I mean this argument is tragic... |
This. So Rih, Katy, and Bey are the ones still standing, it's not that hard to agree on that.
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Originally posted by Homebrand
Well you said it yourself. Rihanna is Rihanna.
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Yeah, but you misunderstood the context obviously.
Trust me. I know reading isn't the navy's strong suit but it is the hive's
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Originally posted by loveless
I love how Rihanna's stans are bragging about Rihanna outselling Beyoncé in terms of records sales like Rihanna doesn't have almost twice the amount of albums and eras as Beyoncé does as a solo act.
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7 isn't really a double of 5. 
And it was only until GGGB until Rih fully blown up, Beyonce had DC hype before her solo career.
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
My bad.
Still doesn't change the fact that you guys are acting like she is doing some out of this world thing. She has had double the amount of time as Katy and Rihanna to build a fanbase and touring reputation, so using that as receipts is not only stupid, but makes you guys look petty because you can't use single sales and debatable album sales.
The public doesn't care, nor do they remember touring receipts. Majority of the public also does NOT care about tours in general. Tours are never in the news, they're never talked about outside of their stanbase, and they are never referenced in terms of an artists legacy.
Does anyone mention Michael Jackson tours when talking about him? Madonna? No. Tours are good for the artist's bank account, but that is it. |
Omg but that's like me saying Katy's single sales don't count because she makes generic music so of course the public will buy it. Stop being one sided. And stop with the embarrassing "the public doesn't care about" argument. I'm sure the public doesn't have Katy's single sale receipts in their memory.
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Katy, the only and true Queen Of Pop , since 2010 
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Beyonce is iconic and is easily the most respected female in this business. Everyone knows it, from K Michelle to Katy Perry. Nobody attempts to shade her and if they do, their career conveniently becomes null & void.
Rihanna is... Rihanna. There's been plenty of Rihanna's over the last couple of decades and there will continue to be. She has bops and some memorable moments, but she's replaceable. All another girl needs is her stylist, her hot producers and a lucky break in the form of Umbrella and they can become Rihanna too.
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If it was THAT easy to just be an other "Rihanna" don't think you think Capitol, Interscope and etc would have already done their own "Rihanna". It's NOT that easy to make a popstar. It's not simply about working with amazing producers, stylist and such it's much more.
If Rihanna was that easily replaceable best believe Def Jam would have already put out an other Rihanna the minute Rihanna started to become a PR nightmare.
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I stan for both Beyonce & Rihanna and I hate how people put them to against each other, like their can't be two females.
The title of this thread should be "Are Katy, Rih and Bey the last girls standing" since Beyonce isn't flopping.
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 Why is this thread still open? Why can't all of our faves be successful, whether it be with albums, singles, or tours? C'mon, these kinds of threads only show who is truly insecure and who isn't. If you don't think your fave is a flop, you wouldn't care.
Katy, Rihanna, Gaga, and Bey are all pop icons and that's not going to change no matter who sells more and who has ups and downs and who tours longer.
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Originally posted by QueenBLadyG
So ridiculous! Beyoncé has outsold both albums in less than 6 months. Stay a bitter delusional mess. It's quite obvious. The desperate try hards are so odd. Always trying to undermine Beyoncé. It's embarrassing. Seek help. She has also sold millions of singles this era as well. Not sure what she has to do to get people to just be real and respectable individuals and just give congrats when they are due. Especially after coming off of 4. |
You can literally count the amount of countries on your hand that DIL, XO, and Partition went top 10 in. Her single sale are terrible this era
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Originally posted by Caesar
She's been almost in this industry for 10 years sis... You claim that there were other replacements but can't name them?
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Vocally, anyone could replace her.
Style wise, Zendaya or Tinashe.
Dance wise, anyone with functioning feet.
What am I missing? How is she so irreplaceable again?
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Originally posted by PrettyHurts
It's time for this thread to close. Rihanna is still standing. Katy Perry is still standing. Beyoncé is still standing.
Gaga.... i'm not sure yet...
Britney is lying down.
This shouldn't be about comparing numbers etc, it's just obvious
Beyoncé has not suffered a recent career downfall, she is relevant rn, she is still standing...period. I mean this argument is tragic... |
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