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Single: Katy Perry - "Birthday"
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Lets end this conversation about IS and get back to Birthslay, we don't want a WP party here, right? 
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The essays  Y'all better leave the International Trash topic in the base.
How's "Birthday" doing on iChunes?
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Member Since: 12/22/2011
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Originally posted by Sam Jay
I can't believe that some people actually genuinely believe that This Is How We Do and International Smile are trash and not single worthy, especially when the exact same people would prefer something like Double Rainbow or It Takes Two as a single. Like... are you forgetting who we stan for? Those songs will never be singles, and nor should they be. They're not bad, but they're not great, either. TIHWD and IS are fun, uplifting, great Katy Perry pop tracks. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Birthday is the right choice for fourth single, and I'm glad that they decided to release it anyway even though it was pushed back for a bit to allow Dark Horse to have its reign.
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Yeah TIHWD is a fun track that would do well if released after Birthday or after LL
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Originally posted by Schhh
Some people? Sis, everyone here considers IS and TIHWD trash, including me. Both Double Rainbow and ITT are MILES better, hell, even This Moment and Ghost **** on those two songs.
Anyway, none of those songs will ever be singles. Capitol/Katy will go with Legenary Lovers, Walking on Air and By The Grace of God.  |
Speak for yourself.
DR is overrated and forgettable. There's only two songs outside of birthday that should be singles
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Originally posted by TheSinglesClub
Ok. I'll give you TIHWD but IS has a very high burn rate. Its fun the first few spins but gets really used after some time.
Believe me when I say that I would do everything I can to have another POP record from Katy. Sadly its Katy who wants to transition to the acoustic realm and I think that ballad type songs like "It Takes Two" are going to help Katy.
That is overexposure for Katy. Like every song that comes out is upbeat can actually hurt her singles. Variation is important too. And we all want her to progress as an artist as well so if it means we have to say "See You Later" to her bops I'm willing to take the risk.  |
She has variation. Birthday sounds nothing like her last 3 singles
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Originally posted by gustavo.
Can Birthday crossover to other formats besides POP and HAC?
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Originally posted by Sam Jay
That's not true at all, fanbases are often the worst for judging singles, that's why fan favourites usually flop if released (Britney's Criminal, Carly's TIGOY, Gaga's G.U.Y., just to name a few off the top of my head). Kats drag Part Of Me to the ends of the Earth and back (and rightfully so, imo) yet it was still a hit for her. The fans and the GP usually have different standards. I think the GP would eat a track up like International Smile over a track like It Takes Two, and I think that's pretty obvious.
Peacock wasn't released due to the nature of its lyrics, that's the same reason why they're remixing Birthday slightly in order to make the sexual undertones less obvious. That and Peacock wasn't produced by Dr. Luke. It had nothing to do with fans not wanting it as a single.
Anyway, I'm just glad that Birthday is starting to pick up like I knew it would. The slayage is coming, y'all.  |
I agree. Fans think their personal choice makes it right and not keeping in mind strategy. Birthday is a great spring song and she will need a great summer and fall song after that
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Originally posted by Four
The essays Y'all better leave the International Trash topic in the base.
How's "Birthday" doing on iChunes? |
What base? 
206. Katy Perry - Birthday. 
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I don't want a WP party either. Sorry for contributing to some of the more OT IS discussion.
Birthday is #206 on US iTunes right now. 
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I swear I'm already THIS close on opening a thread in base titled "Katy Perry Future Single Choices: The Thread!"
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206. Katy Perry - Birthday. - 6
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Originally posted by katyperryismylife
I swear I'm already THIS close on opening a thread in base titled "Katy Perry Future Single Choices: The Thread!" |
That might be useful.  Too bad not everyone can agree.
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The Cash Cash remix of Birthday really is FLAWLESS. I love it so much. 
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People who think Katy should never be serious because it's not going to be a 6 million seller #1 make me cringe. Wide Awake and TOTGA were both popular and HELPED her image.
It annoys the **** out of me when people only want to bring up unconditionally and ToY. Maybe the public just didn't connect with those songs, it has NOTHING to do with them not wanting Katy to be serious.
In fact have any of you read the comments on Unconditionally video? Most of them are that Katy is beautiful, the Love the MV, etc. but just can't get into the song. So saying the public only wants fun Katy is ********. Katy's career will end in 3 years max if she refuses to release ballads as singles in fear of them not going #1.
And I'm sorry but have two Top 10 ballads become hits definitely shows the public doesn't mind mature Katy and yes 3x platinum is a hit. Not everything needs to be 5-6x platinum. This is why Katy will never grow. Even her fanbase wants her to stick to pure upbeat pop so she can just keep getting #1's.
#1's ARENT EVERYTHING PEOPLE 
Birthday is a bop, I'm glad it's a single but a ballad can be chosen after this or LL and it will do more for her than another "regular Katy"
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
People who think Katy should never be serious because it's not going to be a 6 million seller #1 make me cringe. Wide Awake and TOTGA were both popular and HELPED her image.
It annoys the **** out of me when people only want to bring up unconditionally and ToY. Maybe the public just didn't connect with those songs, it has NOTHING to do with them not wanting Katy to be serious.
In fact have any of you read the comments on Unconditionally video? Most of them are that Katy is beautiful, the Love the MV, etc. but just can't get into the song. So saying the public only wants fun Katy is ********. Katy's career will end in 3 years max if she refuses to release ballads as singles in fear of them not going #1.
And I'm sorry but have two Top 10 ballads become hits definitely shows the public doesn't mind mature Katy and yes 3x platinum is a hit. Not everything needs to be 5-6x platinum. This is why Katy will never grow. Even her fanbase wants her to stick to pure upbeat pop so she can just keep getting #1's.
#1's ARENT EVERYTHING PEOPLE
Birthday is a bop, I'm glad it's a single but a ballad can be chosen after this or LL and it will do more for her than another "regular Katy" |
#JusticeForItTakesTwo
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
People who think Katy should never be serious because it's not going to be a 6 million seller #1 make me cringe. Wide Awake and TOTGA were both popular and HELPED her image.
It annoys the **** out of me when people only want to bring up unconditionally and ToY. Maybe the public just didn't connect with those songs, it has NOTHING to do with them not wanting Katy to be serious.
In fact have any of you read the comments on Unconditionally video? Most of them are that Katy is beautiful, the Love the MV, etc. but just can't get into the song. So saying the public only wants fun Katy is ********. Katy's career will end in 3 years max if she refuses to release ballads as singles in fear of them not going #1.
And I'm sorry but have two Top 10 ballads become hits definitely shows the public doesn't mind mature Katy and yes 3x platinum is a hit. Not everything needs to be 5-6x platinum. This is why Katy will never grow. Even her fanbase wants her to stick to pure upbeat pop so she can just keep getting #1's.
#1's ARENT EVERYTHING PEOPLE
Birthday is a bop, I'm glad it's a single but a ballad can be chosen after this or LL and it will do more for her than another "regular Katy" |
EDUCATE THEM! Tell them IT TAKES TWO will her next ballad hit!
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
People who think Katy should never be serious because it's not going to be a 6 million seller #1 make me cringe. Wide Awake and TOTGA were both popular and HELPED her image.
It annoys the **** out of me when people only want to bring up unconditionally and ToY. Maybe the public just didn't connect with those songs, it has NOTHING to do with them not wanting Katy to be serious.
In fact have any of you read the comments on Unconditionally video? Most of them are that Katy is beautiful, the Love the MV, etc. but just can't get into the song. So saying the public only wants fun Katy is ********. Katy's career will end in 3 years max if she refuses to release ballads as singles in fear of them not going #1.
And I'm sorry but have two Top 10 ballads become hits definitely shows the public doesn't mind mature Katy and yes 3x platinum is a hit. Not everything needs to be 5-6x platinum. This is why Katy will never grow. Even her fanbase wants her to stick to pure upbeat pop so she can just keep getting #1's.
#1's ARENT EVERYTHING PEOPLE
Birthday is a bop, I'm glad it's a single but a ballad can be chosen after this or LL and it will do more for her than another "regular Katy" |
Artistic growth >>>>>>> #1s and I think if she realised she could still get hits with more mature material she'd move more in that direction which is what I want from her.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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I love the Music Video ideas circulating in this thread a few pages back  about Creepy Katy hunting down his man whose fed up with her cakes 
Bet u i'll get sick of people who will be criticizing the music video for veering away from its lyric video counterpart like wtf that's why u get separate videos for the two
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I swear to God if Katy ever release This Is How We Degrade Ourself, Walking On Trash or International Garbage, imma jump ship immediately 
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by SlayMePlease
I swear to God if Katy ever release This Is How We Degrade Ourself, Walking On Trash or International Garbage, i'mma jump ship immediately |
Please let the light in.
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
People who think Katy should never be serious because it's not going to be a 6 million seller #1 make me cringe. Wide Awake and TOTGA were both popular and HELPED her image.
It annoys the **** out of me when people only want to bring up unconditionally and ToY. Maybe the public just didn't connect with those songs, it has NOTHING to do with them not wanting Katy to be serious.
In fact have any of you read the comments on Unconditionally video? Most of them are that Katy is beautiful, the Love the MV, etc. but just can't get into the song. So saying the public only wants fun Katy is ********. Katy's career will end in 3 years max if she refuses to release ballads as singles in fear of them not going #1.
And I'm sorry but have two Top 10 ballads become hits definitely shows the public doesn't mind mature Katy and yes 3x platinum is a hit. Not everything needs to be 5-6x platinum. This is why Katy will never grow. Even her fanbase wants her to stick to pure upbeat pop so she can just keep getting #1's.
#1's ARENT EVERYTHING PEOPLE
Birthday is a bop, I'm glad it's a single but a ballad can be chosen after this or LL and it will do more for her than another "regular Katy" |
I think Katy is not the one who afraid of non-#1, her label is.
I'm not a fan of her but sometimes I feel she's under control of her label and she's not happy at all.
See how many times she wants to save Uncle but her label forced her to do DH to replace Uncle.
But it has two sides.
See Gaga, she's free about what she wants to do and she controls her life as an artist, but ARTPOP is a mess.
Katy has talent, maybe not the best, but she has something special.
The crown of #1 is overshadowed herself and it becomes a problem for her to improve.
If I can choose, I would like Gaga's life better than Katy's, I don't want to be forced to do anything and can't even breathe.
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
People who think Katy should never be serious because it's not going to be a 6 million seller #1 make me cringe. Wide Awake and TOTGA were both popular and HELPED her image.
It annoys the **** out of me when people only want to bring up unconditionally and ToY. Maybe the public just didn't connect with those songs, it has NOTHING to do with them not wanting Katy to be serious.
In fact have any of you read the comments on Unconditionally video? Most of them are that Katy is beautiful, the Love the MV, etc. but just can't get into the song. So saying the public only wants fun Katy is ********. Katy's career will end in 3 years max if she refuses to release ballads as singles in fear of them not going #1.
And I'm sorry but have two Top 10 ballads become hits definitely shows the public doesn't mind mature Katy and yes 3x platinum is a hit. Not everything needs to be 5-6x platinum. This is why Katy will never grow. Even her fanbase wants her to stick to pure upbeat pop so she can just keep getting #1's.
#1's ARENT EVERYTHING PEOPLE
Birthday is a bop, I'm glad it's a single but a ballad can be chosen after this or LL and it will do more for her than another "regular Katy" |
TELL THEM SIS!!!
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Originally posted by SlayMePlease
I swear to God if Katy ever release This Is How We Degrade Ourself, Walking On Trash or International Garbage, imma jump ship immediately |
Hilarious...well the focus is on birthday's slayage...we'll cross those bridges if ever necessary.
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Please let the light in.
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They took dark horse literally...hopefully Birthday brightens their lives
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I think Katy aims for success too. She does have artistic control and its her decision to pump out commercial material.
I remember the interview on Ellen before TOTGA came out, the video release date was 11/11/11 and she said she hoped it would the sixth number one hit like the date. 
And mess at you thinking the label controls her every move. It was her decision to release Uncle and Capitol supported it by booking like a dozen different promo spots for it. 
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
People who think Katy should never be serious because it's not going to be a 6 million seller #1 make me cringe. Wide Awake and TOTGA were both popular and HELPED her image.
It annoys the **** out of me when people only want to bring up unconditionally and ToY. Maybe the public just didn't connect with those songs, it has NOTHING to do with them not wanting Katy to be serious.
In fact have any of you read the comments on Unconditionally video? Most of them are that Katy is beautiful, the Love the MV, etc. but just can't get into the song. So saying the public only wants fun Katy is ********. Katy's career will end in 3 years max if she refuses to release ballads as singles in fear of them not going #1.
And I'm sorry but have two Top 10 ballads become hits definitely shows the public doesn't mind mature Katy and yes 3x platinum is a hit. Not everything needs to be 5-6x platinum. This is why Katy will never grow. Even her fanbase wants her to stick to pure upbeat pop so she can just keep getting #1's.
#1's ARENT EVERYTHING PEOPLE
Birthday is a bop, I'm glad it's a single but a ballad can be chosen after this or LL and it will do more for her than another "regular Katy" |
WA and TOTGA were two of my favorites from the last era because they were such a departure from her cotton candy image. I'd love it if she released a ballad at the end of August or early September.
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