[onna]

Originally posted by TeamSelenaMarie

Yeah, I used pika's argument as a response to starstruck's.

ok good I thought so

[pika]

Originally posted by Starstruck.

Clearly she's catching up because her album stopped selling when the second single flopped? so its like the general public didn't know about it, they only knew about Heart Attack.

it only peaked at 40 on Top 40 radio, no one really knew about it besides her fanbase and not a lot of people and you can see that in the video's views. She's only at 56 million when the lead single has almost 200 million views.

If you wanna play with the views and all that, then I could say both of Miley's CBT videos have over 100 million views, why didn't she sell more?


anyway, her singles had more success because of better management + promo.

even their WW sales were close, while MITUSA flopped everywhere else and she's only had a hit single that was Heart Attack and Selena also toured Europe.

You used to the same stuff but seems like you flipped on Demi after she fought with Miley.

why do you keep ignoring the point that Selena got 2 singles, Demi got 3 - with 3 singles Selena would've sold more. like omg

WOMH only got 100m views cause of Bangerz it was never released to radio or performed in America or discounted

for the last time, MITUSA flopped because nobody wanted to buy it. why didn't it take off on radio but neon lights did? you even admitted it came off the momentum of HA while NL didn't have any and yet it flopped.

get over the fact that Selena did better in single sales and if given more singles she would've sold more in the US and WW.

[materialboy]

DEMI

[pika]

Selena also toured Europe

screaming at this being some type of substantial promotion when the people attending the tour already bought the album but saying Neon Lights got promo and it's "it was performed before it was a single!!!!!" "no count!!!"

[onna]

Originally posted by Starstruck.

Clearly she's catching up because her album stopped selling when the second single flopped? so its like the general public didn't know about it, they only knew about Heart Attack.

it only peaked at 40 on Top 40 radio, no one really knew about it besides her fanbase and not a lot of people and you can see that in the video's views. She's only at 56 million when the lead single has almost 200 million views.

If you wanna play with the views and all that, then I could say both of Miley's CBT videos have over 100 million views, why didn't she sell more?


anyway, her singles had more success because of better management + promo.

even their WW sales were close, while MITUSA flopped everywhere else and she's only had a hit single that was Heart Attack and Selena also toured Europe.

You used to the same stuff but seems like you flipped on Demi after she fought with Miley.

Now even you know it took them year[s] to get 100 million meaning by the time they hit that milestone the era was over and WOMH wasn't a US single

[pika]

Originally posted by onna

Now even you know it took them year[s] to get 100 million meaning by the time they hit that milestone the era was over and WOMH wasn't a US single

"But But But MITUSA flopped so no count!!"

[Starstruck.]

Originally posted by pika

why do you keep ignoring the point that Selena got 2 singles, Demi got 3 - with 3 singles Selena would've sold more. like omg

WOMH only got 100m views cause of Bangerz it was never released to radio or performed in America or discounted

for the last time, MITUSA flopped because nobody wanted to buy it. why didn't it take off on radio but neon lights did? you even admitted it came off the momentum of HA while NL didn't have any and yet it flopped.

get over the fact that Selena did better in single sales and if given more singles she would've sold more in the US and WW.

How am I ignoring?????

Exactly, views don't reflect anything so using that was pointless.

MITUSA flopped because of its messy release + radio not supporting it, this era would've been in a different place if MITUSA actually had NL's radio success.

i admitted that? i said it killed HA's momentum, well actually the label did after they waited almost 2 months to release it and pushed back the radio date not only once but twice.

I mean you even were suprised how Selena was struggling to outsell Demi remember? because she had two hit singles while demi had two with less promo.

just in case you deny it https://twitter.com/milegendz/status/401174716871757824

[SilentDeception]

Someone should tell Little Monsters that third singles are guaranteed to succeed...

[Summertime Love]

Demi

[Cola.drinker]

Objectively, Demi. But relatively (considering past eras) Cant Be Tamed

[Starstruck.]

Originally posted by pika

screaming at this being some type of substantial promotion when the people attending the tour already bought the album but saying Neon Lights got promo and it's "it was performed before it was a single!!!!!" "no count!!!"

what does selena's tour have to do with neon lights? she's never toured europe before so it bumped her sales there.

demi never toured canada before and she did two concerts and it bumped her there to gold.

simple as that.

idk why you think you are so slick when you post there comments as if you're clocking us

Originally posted by onna

Now even you know it took them year[s] to get 100 million meaning by the time they hit that milestone the era was over and WOMH wasn't a US single

yes just like how MITUSA will do it and im pretty sure i wasn't talking about the US, i thought we were already over that whenever we talk about WOMH which was promoted in Europe but flopped.

[pika]

Originally posted by Starstruck.

How am I ignoring?????

Exactly, views don't reflect anything so using that was pointless.

MITUSA flopped because of its messy release + radio not supporting it, this era would've been in a different place if MITUSA actually had NL's radio success.

i admitted that? i said it killed HA's momentum, well actually the label did after they waited almost 2 months to release it and pushed back the radio date not only once but twice.

I mean you even were suprised how Selena was struggling to outsell Demi remember? because she had two hit singles while demi had two with less promo.

just in case you deny it https://twitter.com/milegendz/status/401174716871757824

this era would've been in a different place if MITUSA actually had NL's radio success.

But it DIDN'T. you're only holding on to ifs and buts as your argument.
Can't Be Tamed would've hit #1 if it got 200m AI
Slow Down would've went top 10 had it got more digital sales
Miley would've outsold Michael Jackson's discography if she sold 200m more albums
we can talk about ifs all day, the fact remains that Demi got 3 singles, Selena got 2 - with more singles Selena would've sold more. this is as basic as i can make it

a radio adds date by a few weeks doesn't change anything if NL is a hit on radio when being released months after MITUSa bombed. it was ~coming off the momentum of Heart Attack so it should've done better. and bringing up WOMH's video views when it took 2 years to reach 40 million and only reached 100 million after the massive exposure of Bangerz is just.

[Rei]

Demi got 3 singles AND was released two months before Stars Dance and still SD has sold more until now.

[Global M]

Originally posted by Starstruck.

MITUSA flopped because of its messy release + radio not supporting it, this era would've been in a different place if MITUSA actually had NL's radio success.

So just because a single gets a messy release means it's excusable and shouldn't count???
CBT video came out on May 5 then was released on iTunes weeks later. Messed up it's airplay.
So by your logic CBT era had no singles and still matched DEMI and Stars Dance numbers!! Slay!

[Lippy]

CBT flopped the hardest even though it did much better than Demi and Star Dances

[onna]

Originally posted by Global M

So just because a single gets a messy release means it's excusable and shouldn't count???
CBT video came out on May 5 then was released on iTunes weeks later. Messed up it's airplay.
So by your logic CBT era had no singles and still matched DEMI and Stars Dance numbers!! Slay!

oh my

[onna]

Originally posted by Lippy

CBT flopped the hardest even though it did much better than Demi and Star Dances

[pika]

Originally posted by Global M

So just because a single gets a messy release means it's excusable and shouldn't count???
CBT video came out on May 5 then was released on iTunes weeks later. Messed up it's airplay.
So by your logic CBT era had no singles and still matched DEMI and Stars Dance numbers!! Slay!

it actually got 0 videos too since CBT failed to rise on iTunes after its video premiered. If something doesn't succeed it doesn't count!

0 singles
0 videos

and 300k albums sold, what kind of domination?

[Global M]

Originally posted by onna

oh my

Why are they trying to overlook a single and erase it from existence when Demi and her label tried to make it happen?? I understand that it didn't catch on but it's still one more single Miley and Selena didn't get

[Anticipating]

Originally posted by pika

it actually got 0 videos too since CBT failed to rise on iTunes after its video premiered. If something doesn't succeed it doesn't count!

0 singles
0 videos

and 300k albums sold, what kind of domination?