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Originally posted by Black Pearl
The best song on MOTS is The Last Time  |
Rush says hi
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Originally posted by Ju Lia
I don't get your "fear" about 2 albums this year (yeah, this guy is posing, but still, the rumours are some months old). Or fear of annual albums, thirst for "full-time", "proper" (read it like: milked, squeezed) eras with commercial success (like you can't go stanning for Katy Perry to have it all... and yes, I want Robyn to break that Beatles record, but she showed she can do it... another way). Do you want her to expire completely, so "GP [and haters] will finally say "she's not there right now"? (and stop blaming her for "being rushed" (and you won't have a doubt or get convinced hearing them)?.. "2 years isn't that long" - well, then, if she had a break for 3, 4 years... how much do you want? I personally don't want her to give us No Doubt (11 years), My Bloody Valentine (22 years) or Dr. Dre (---) teas, you know... 
Sometimes I have a feeling some of you pay too much attention to all the sceptics talking about "rushed" releases, "uncohesiveness", "quality of the material", "no real acclaim" and "mediocre sales" - and finally believed them. Or, at least, want to make them shut up on their own field - receiptsreceiptsreceoptsnumbersnumbersstatsgrammys universalacclaimmm. (One can't satisfy everyone. If an artist's success was only clockage of haters, it would be the battle without a chance to win). You seek so much into reasons why she is "not succeeding" (in singing, performing, quality of music, etc, etc) or "not succeeding enough", why she "is far from legend yet", "doesn't have WOW moments instead of Umbrella" (sorry, what?) and so on... Do you realise that you can make up logical reasoning for almost anything? So, if you choose not to be satisfied with her work, you will never be.
I wanna say... look, sometimes I can dream about super-alternative concept album, or album filled by outstanding genre & lyrics decisions (like, covering all contemporary genres, deep interesting lyrics of every song, and themes, which are completely new for her), all written and by her (and they both are gonna be successfull, covered with diamond plaques & awards, breaking any record possible) - but I do understand that nobody could do that. No one who writes their songs 100% and without any extra help (cuz such artists always follow one line), no one who co-writes (because "concept" album in its purest meaning - I mean, Pink Floyd-esque work, not popular singer's fan on ATRL trying to convince everyone that "Beyonce-Gaga-Taylor make concept ablums!!!11" - is not something made by artist considered to be "popular"). If you became Rihanna's fans somehow, you could realise what she's going to do and what she's not likely to do. If you fell in love with her somehow, I suppose, she could give you something you enjoyed. Other complaints are hot air. We're, like, spoiled.
In my humble opinion, she can give out excellent albums in short periods of time. Long break doesn't equal album quality, it doesn't even equal long album sessions. ...Like, after long breaks by Britney (Femme Fatale, BJ), Kylie, Katy Perry, Jennifer Lopez (Love?), damn, probably anyone, even Christina Aguilera (Bionic), even Madonna (MDNA) - we still get piece of work typical for a certain artist (fully or at some point at least) - and/or trendy... no insult, just opinion. And yeah, I understand anyone can think smth like that about Rihanna, it's a matter of taste. Still, even though different "same" issues can be found if I turned on imagination (see also - r&b/hip-hop/pop vibe), Robz is the freshest for me, genre vise. For me, Robz is the most versatile artist ever. If someone could pull of the "variant 2" of my list, that's no one else but her. If she doesn't (not because she can not, but because she doesn't need to), still, I appreciate and understand that. And I'm looking forward to continue following her path... |
I definitely agree with the bolded. I enjoy shorter eras with memorable songs rather than eras like LOUD where the songs did great but no one remembers them. My ideal UNA era would be this: Diamonds, Stay, Lov7 Song on urban, PIU on pop + urban, Jump in the summer. And that's it. While UNA had a lot of songs that could've been released, it would've led to Rihanna becoming overexposed and forced down the public's throat. As much as we talk about well-planned eras, they often feel robotic and money-hungry. Allowing the songs time to breathe and time to gauge the GP's reaction is always much more interesting to me. The sales might not be as great, but that's the only downside for me. I'd much rather see Rih put out great albums than be a commercial success. I think it's possible to do both, and that''s why I want her to take her time. I want her rested so we can get good performances and albums without fillers. I don't think her albums are as filler-heavy as people like to claim, but there are always a few songs that make the final cut and disrupt the flow of the album or just sound bad. I think she could easily avoid that if she took her time.
And the reason most of us talk about Rihanna's success or impact is because we see her potential and want her to reach it. Part of achieving legend status is commercial success, while the other is quality and acclaim. Rih could easily excel in all of those areas but it's the small things that hold her back. Ultimately I'm going to be happy as a fan if she gives us great music but I don't think I'm selfish or focused on the wrong things for wanting her to do better. She's capable of more and it's extremely frustrating to watch her eras crash and burn.
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Originally posted by WeFoundWill
Rush says hi
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Wrong album!!!! Fake Navy alert 
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How is releasing album annually is allowing the GP to breath compared to having lengthier era where she has more spaced promo?
Isn't releasing annually more robotic and money hungry compared to longer breaks?
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by BajanBeauty
Wrong album!!!! Fake Navy alert |
1. Pon de replay
2. here I go again(ft .j-status)
3. if it’s lovin’ that you want
4. you don’t love me(no,no,no)
5. that la,la,la
6. the last time
7. willing to wait
8. music of the sun
9. let me
10. rush(ft. cardinal offishall)
11. there’s a thug in my life(ft. j-status)
12. now I know
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Member Since: 12/21/2011
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Your font was ugleh and had a hashtag let's not.  |
It was the GGGB font, but atleast you tried. 
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Originally posted by BajanBeauty
Wrong album!!!! Fake Navy alert |
he still hasn't purchased Unapologetic, Rated R, and Loud
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Why are you all worried about two albums? I for one would love two Rihanna albums this year and besides I doubt Rihanna will hardly promote 'Home' and the soundtrack it will be up to DreamWorks and the actual movie to sell the soundtrack. Anyway nothing as been confirmed... ya'll are doing the most
why aint you all asking MikeFenty he of course knows all the inside scoop...
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Let Me, Music of The Sun & Should I >>>>>>>>>>
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Originally posted by WeFoundWill
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In what way sis?
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Originally posted by Cain
In what way sis? |
I was amused by Its tackyness
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MIKE YOU HAVE 2 DAYS TO MAKE A NEW OP OR ELSE
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
It was the GGGB font, but atleast you tried. |
And it should stay in 2007, you tried with that cover tho.
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Originally posted by Cain
And it should stay in 2007, you tried with that cover tho. |
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Originally posted by Slim Shady
he still hasn't purchased Unapologetic, Rated R, and Loud |
That's Marooner and Bucking. 
DuaneT I got you so pressed. 
You want Rihanna to have success like LOUD yet you want 2 album in a year with like 4months difference, how is that going to work? 
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Originally posted by Chemical X.
I definitely agree with the bolded. I enjoy shorter eras with memorable songs rather than eras like LOUD where the songs did great but no one remembers them. My ideal UNA era would be this: Diamonds, Stay, Lov7 Song on urban, PIU on pop + urban, Jump in the summer. And that's it. While UNA had a lot of songs that could've been released, it would've led to Rihanna becoming overexposed and forced down the public's throat. As much as we talk about well-planned eras, they often feel robotic and money-hungry. Allowing the songs time to breathe and time to gauge the GP's reaction is always much more interesting to me. The sales might not be as great, but that's the only downside for me. I'd much rather see Rih put out great albums than be a commercial success. I think it's possible to do both, and that''s why I want her to take her time. I want her rested so we can get good performances and albums without fillers. I don't think her albums are as filler-heavy as people like to claim, but there are always a few songs that make the final cut and disrupt the flow of the album or just sound bad. I think she could easily avoid that if she took her time.
And the reason most of us talk about Rihanna's success or impact is because we see her potential and want her to reach it. Part of achieving legend status is commercial success, while the other is quality and acclaim. Rih could easily excel in all of those areas but it's the small things that hold her back. Ultimately I'm going to be happy as a fan if she gives us great music but I don't think I'm selfish or focused on the wrong things for wanting her to do better. She's capable of more and it's extremely frustrating to watch her eras crash and burn.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by WeFoundWill
I was amused by Its tackyness |
Oh no, that took 5 whole minutes out of my life sis.
Be a bit more sensitive to my ART pls.
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I'm just not a fan of long, drawn-out eras. I was commenting moreso on that instead of the yearly releases. I think Rihanna's music improves a LOT simply by having extra time and being able to work with a variety of producers. If HOME has really been worked on for two years, I wouldn't be surprised if it's more cohesive and sounds better than the majority of her past albums. Same with R8. Nothing that's done in a rushed fashion is as great as it could be. But in general, I think the quality of the yearly albums has hurt her more than the fact that they're annual. If the albums were A+++ and she was well-rested I wouldn't give a **** about the timing.
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