[8thPrince]

Originally posted by joshsquat

Agreed, I also felt everything besides Recipe was lack luster even Kill Bill. Don't drag me for that anyone. I know a lot of people here stanned for it. I even thought the music video was stupid being the HUUUUGE Kill Bill fan that I am.

!!! The MV made no sense.

[joshsquat]

Originally posted by 8thPrince

!!! The MV made no sense.

It was awful. It felt very low budget too. Idk, I've never been a huge B.E.G fan.
No shade to them though, I respect what they've done.

[Sooyoung]

Originally posted by Hitori

I feel like Kara and Wonder Girls can do comebacks as a trios. I mean, look at Orange Caramel!

KARA are done though. Korea hates them now (aside from Gyuri) following the Radio Star (?) scandal and strangely, they never amassed a large fanbase in Japan unlike SNSD but instead were wholly dependant on casual listeners who they can't target so they have nowhere to go from here.

Wonder Girls has life in them yet. They churned out a smash in 2011 and 1 large hit in 2011 while Sunmi's debut has been gaging largely positive reactions.

Ready for them to kick out Sunye and replace the newest member with Sunmi.

[Hitori]

The best moment in Catellena. I hope you folks caught it.

[joshsquat]

Originally posted by Sooyoung

KARA are done though. Korea hates them now (aside from Gyuri) following the Radio Star (?) scandal and strangely, they never amassed a large fanbase in Japan unlike SNSD but instead were wholly dependant on casual listeners who they can't target so they have nowhere to go from here.

Wonder Girls has life in them yet. They churned out a smash in 2011 and 1 large hit in 2011 while Sunmi's debut has been gaging largely positive reactions.

Ready for them to kick out Sunye and replace the newest member with Sunmi.

Sunmi, Yenny, Yubin.
THE NEW WONDER GIRLS UNIT.
Sooyoung, start thinking up the tracks/concepts/MVs/performances.

[Hitori]

SUNMI-YENNY-LIM-YUBIN for me!

[Sooyoung]

Originally posted by joshsquat

Sunmi, Yenny, Yubin.
THE NEW WONDER GIRLS UNIT.
Sooyoung, start thinking up the tracks/concepts/MVs/performances.

Just give me stuff in the same vein as 24 Hours but more outlandish.

[Hitori]

We all know that rap in Full Moon would be better off as Yubin's.

[Sooyoung]

Full Moon (the mini) should have been a Watch The Throne styled, Sunmi Yubin, collab album.

And not sure anyone noticed but SNSD and 2NE1 charted on Mediatraffic's single charts.

[Callum]

Originally posted by Sooyoung

KARA are done though. Korea hates them now (aside from Gyuri) following the Radio Star (?) scandal and strangely, they never amassed a large fanbase in Japan unlike SNSD but instead were wholly dependant on casual listeners who they can't target so they have nowhere to go from here.

Wonder Girls has life in them yet. They churned out a smash in 2011 and 1 large hit in 2011 while Sunmi's debut has been gaging largely positive reactions.

Ready for them to kick out Sunye and replace the newest member with Sunmi.

It's funny because I was about to say the exact opposite of this I'm not sure the whole "large fanbase vs casual listeners" argument applies in the context of Kara since they were just as successful as SNSD over there in terms of record sales and managed to sell out much larger concert venues. Their Japanese fanclub was/is pretty sizeable and the fact they managed to cross-over to the general "casual listener" public suggests to me that they'd have a better chance at surviving over there even with only 3 remaining members. Hara is like super popular over there on her own.

WG meanwhile are basically dead in the water at this point and imo should stay that way. There are literally zero benefits to JYP investing time/money in trying to revive what is essentially an ancient group at this point when they should be (and are) focussing on developing newer groups to replace them. I love Wonder Girls but at this point the last thing I want is a comeback from them because I don't think it could live up to the standards they set for themselves before everything turned to ****.

[Rominho.]

Originally posted by joshsquat

Agreed, I also felt everything besides Recipe was lack luster even Kill Bill. Don't drag me for that anyone. I know a lot of people here stanned for it. I even thought the music video was stupid being the HUUUUGE Kill Bill fan that I am.

Black Box is one of the best albums released last year, not lackluster at all. The MV was fine, they were not trying to serve some huge budget copy of Kill Bill, they just tried to serve a cool/fun version of it.

According to Jea "The whistle in the intro of the song reminded me of the movie 'Kill Bill'. Members said that it would a good idea so we filmed the M/V as the homage to the movie and made the clothings have the mood of western dramas."

The song is not that powerful bop that Brown Eyed Girls usually serve but it's not a bad song at all, the fact JeA is the mind behind it just makes me love "Kill Bill" even more.

[Comedor]

Originally posted by Sooyoung

Full Moon (the mini) should have been a Watch The Throne styled, Sunmi Yubin, collab album.

And not sure anyone noticed but SNSD and 2NE1 charted on Mediatraffic's single charts.

Tiffany and the girls leading as usual.

But congrats to 2NO1 as well, I use some of their new tracks.

[Sept]

Hello Venus’s Ara will be joining the cast of MBC's drama 'Golden Rainbow,’ which stars UEE and Jung Il Woo. In the drama, a character named Kim Young Won will appear in the drama, the family’s maknae who was lost at a young age, raised in America, and of an elite status. Ara will be playing Young Won’s secretary who keeps up with him after he returns to Korea. She will be appearing in ‘Golden Rainbow’ starting this weekend so check out her acting skills then! cr: allkpop

YASSSSSSSSSSSSS ARA
Golden Rainbow is my favourite drama right now, queen UEE and princess Ara in the same drama YASSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Sept]

Originally posted by Rominho.

Black Box is one of the best albums released last year, not lackluster at all. The MV was fine, they were not trying to serve some huge budget copy of Kill Bill, they just tried to serve a cool/fun version of it.

According to Jea "The whistle in the intro of the song reminded me of the movie 'Kill Bill'. Members said that it would a good idea so we filmed the M/V as the homage to the movie and made the clothings have the mood of western dramas."

The song is not that powerful bop that Brown Eyed Girls usually serve but it's not a bad song at all, the fact JeA is the mind behind it just makes me love "Kill Bill" even more.

Black Box and Kill Bill are so disappointing

They used to release flawless bops like Abracadabra, Sixth Sense and this one of the best kpop songs ever

[olympiccairways]

Black Box is great and while it's not one of their best releases it's still a good quality album.

[getinthezone]

Black Box was the best korean album of 2013

[Callum]

Originally posted by getinthezone

Black Box was the best korean album of 2013

Hyperbole if I ever did see it.

[getinthezone]

I think Jungah is gonna graduate soon, hope not tho since she's one of my favourites

[Jack!]

This is cute.

[Sooyoung]

Originally posted by Callum

It's funny because I was about to say the exact opposite of this I'm not sure the whole "large fanbase vs casual listeners" argument applies in the context of Kara since they were just as successful as SNSD over there in terms of record sales and managed to sell out much larger concert venues. Their Japanese fanclub was/is pretty sizeable and the fact they managed to cross-over to the general "casual listener" public suggests to me that they'd have a better chance at surviving over there even with only 3 remaining members. Hara is like super popular over there on her own.

WG meanwhile are basically dead in the water at this point and imo should stay that way. There are literally zero benefits to JYP investing time/money in trying to revive what is essentially an ancient group at this point when they should be (and are) focussing on developing newer groups to replace them. I love Wonder Girls but at this point the last thing I want is a comeback from them because I don't think it could live up to the standards they set for themselves before everything turned to ****.

It does apply. The majority of their sales were composed of purchases from casual listeners, so much so that whenever they couldn't promote to the masses that their sales complete tanked. See the drop in sales by 85% (despite numerous fan signings for the later release once UMJ saw how badly it was doing) between their 2011 album and there 2012 album whereas SNSD had a drop of 75% despite having bigger sales to begin with which would increase the % decrease.

Furthermore, SNSD's Japanese tours have always been unusually small. They could have done a sold out dome tour from late 2011 till early 2013 but nothing. KARA's tours are actually fairly unimpressive, even in Japan. The only really impressive feat they have had was selling out the Tokyo Dome. Even their Satima Arena concerts (in arena mode) didn't have the upper tier open. TVXQ>Big Bang>SNSD(despite capable of bigger tours)>SHINee > 2PM > KARA for touring in Japan.

And yes, that would be a concern of mine too for another WG comeback. However, their music generally delivers so where is the harm?

Originally posted by Comedor

Tiffany and the girls leading as usual.

But congrats to 2NO1 as well, I use some of their new tracks.

I'm surprised The Boys didn't chart in 2011 (sold 20,000 in the US which was - more than likely - in the first of week of release while they were massive throughout Asia back then too.