however, the main point is that the Hive considered it so asinine and "sad" when the other girls do it. It's hypocritical.
Yeah that's very true. I just find it wild that on a forum that's mostly gay boys and men people are so quick to drag a woman for expressing herself sexually when society places so many restrictions on how gay men are allowed to express themselves sexually. Not calling out any fan base in particular because they've all done it at some point.
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**** the Beyhive though annoying ass muh****as I'd donate to the Westboro Baptist church just to see them suffer
Nah, she's always been a freak, but, I for one, have never considered her to be this hyper-sexual. Like I said, the nastiest songs on the CD are the only ones I use so trust and believe I have no problem with it. I have no problem with Beyonce actually. It's the select overbearing members of her stanbase.
Exactly. And the hive is a mess they have been getting on my nerves with this (insert celeb) copies Beyonce.
Beyonce might be the first to have a successful surprise release in the digital era but not overall.
I admit that the Hive is hypocritical when calling out Rihanna's hyper-sexuality.
But no, RudeBoyy, Beyoncé is a feminist. She is being sexy because she wants to be; because it's fun for her, not because that's what we as men want to see.
Part of feminism is giving women the ability to be sexual for themselves. Women are not our [men] servants. They can be our helpful and loving partners in life should they choose to be, but they ain't GOT to. They ain't got to do nothing really. That's feminism.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Beyoncé Im saying that she is not a feminist. Good for Bey if she likes to give BJs but she's just reinforcing the belief that women are supposed to pleasure men, not themselves. I'm not saying she SHOULD of been fully clothed at the Grammys, I'm saying she's just reinforcing that in order to sell their sexuality women have to look hot (appealing to men) while doing so while Jay Z can do it while fully clothed. That's not equality. Good for Beyoncé if she likes wearing lingerie, but why doesn't she just wear it at home instead of in front of millions of viewers. It's not like lingerie is extremely comfy or warm. She likes it because men tell her she looks good when she wears it. I beyomce is just reinforcing that women can be great, as long as they acknowledge that their 2nd to men.
Just spitballing though, I could very possibly be wrong.
Yeah that's very true. I just find it wild that on a forum that's mostly gay boys and men people are so quick to drag a woman for expressing herself sexually when society places so many restrictions on how gay men are allowed to express themselves sexually. Not calling out any fan base in particular because they've all done it at some point.
Does Westboro even like negroes?
Bitch, as a female, it pisses me off. This board in itself is very explicit in nature and it consists mainly of men. Why is it okay for you to express your sexuality, but the second a female does it she's a ****? It all goes back to gender roles depicted by society and how, we, as women are expected to carry ourselves in a certain manner.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Beyoncé Im saying that she is not a feminist. Good for Bey if she likes to give BJs but she's just reinforcing the belief that women are supposed to pleasure men, not themselves. I'm not saying she SHOULD of been fully clothed at the Grammys, I'm saying she's just reinforcing that in order to sell their sexuality women have to look hot (appealing to men) while doing so while Jay Z can do it while fully clothed. That's not equality. Good for Beyoncé if she likes wearing lingerie, but why doesn't she just wear it at home instead of in front of millions of viewers. It's not like lingerie is extremely comfy or warm. She likes it because men tell her she looks good when she wears it. I beyomce is just reinforcing that women can be great, as long as they acknowledge that their 2nd to men.
Just spitballing though, I could very possibly be wrong.
I just said she is a feminist because she is choosing to be sexy for HER OWN enjoyment. She never did it because she wanted to please us men. Did you read my post?
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Beyoncé Im saying that she is not a feminist. Good for Bey if she likes to give BJs but she's just reinforcing the belief that women are supposed to pleasure men, not themselves. I'm not saying she SHOULD of been fully clothed at the Grammys, I'm saying she's just reinforcing that in order to sell their sexuality women have to look hot (appealing to men) while doing so while Jay Z can do it while fully clothed. That's not equality. Good for Beyoncé if she likes wearing lingerie, but why doesn't she just wear it at home instead of in front of millions of viewers. It's not like lingerie is extremely comfy or warm. She likes it because men tell her she looks good when she wears it. I beyomce is just reinforcing that women can be great, as long as they acknowledge that their 2nd to men.
Just spitballing though, I could very possibly be wrong.
Is it hard to believe some women actually enjoy giving head? I do. I love that **** and get off to it. Some women receive pleasure from pleasuring their man, as do some men receive pleasure from pleasuring their woman.
Bitch, as a female, it pisses me off. This board in itself is very explicit in nature and it consists mainly of men. Why is it okay for you to express your sexuality, but the second a female does it she's a ****? It all goes back to gender roles depicted by society and how, we, as women are expected to carry ourselves in a certain manner.
It only proves what we were saying in the masculine men thread right. Let's be honest, gays especially are hypocrites and they are quick to degrade a fem guy. It all goes back to the hatred of women and femininity in general.
Do you guys consider strippers feminists? If they like stripping isn't that them being in control of their sexuality? I'm sure they could find another job so isn't that them being sexy when they want to be sexy? I think some are blinded by the fact that she's Beyoncé. By her logic are strippers the leader of the feminist movement.
Bitch, as a female, it pisses me off. This board in itself is very explicit in nature and it consists mainly of men. Why is it okay for you to express your sexuality, but the second a female does it she's a ****? It all goes back to gender roles depicted by society and how, we, as women are expected to carry ourselves in a certain manner.
Some men can't stand seeing a woman in full control of her body and comfortable in her own skin.
It only proves what we were saying in the masculine men thread right. Let's be honest, gays especially are hypocrites and they are quick to degrade a fem guy. It all goes back to the hatred of women and femininity in general.
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Do you guys consider strippers feminists? If they like stripping isn't that them being in control of their sexuality? I'm sure they could find another job so isn't that them being sexy when they want to be sexy? I think some are blinded by the fact that she's Beyoncé. By her logic are strippers the leader of the feminist movement.
Some strippers actually strip because it's what they love to do, not because they don't have a choice.
Do you guys consider strippers feminists? If they like stripping isn't that them being in control of their sexuality? I'm sure they could find another job so isn't that them being sexy when they want to be sexy? I think some are blinded by the fact that she's Beyoncé. By her logic are strippers the leader of the feminist movement.
I'm not saying this trying to insult you, but how old are you?
Do you guys consider strippers feminists? If they like stripping isn't that them being in control of their sexuality? I'm sure they could find another job so isn't that them being sexy when they want to be sexy? I think some are blinded by the fact that she's Beyoncé. By her logic are strippers the leader of the feminist movement.
That's a really awful thing to say.
Many women strip because they have to. Many do it because they are forced to. But hey, if some woman does it voluntarily... ...then whatever.
Ideas of what is sexually "moral" should be kept to oneself and to whomever one is teaching/rearing IMO.
I think something that also should be taken note of is the male responses to Nicki's Lookin Ass *****.
What kinda insecure mess? you must be one of those ****** she was talking about.
So Nicki comes at all the scrubs out there and little boys like Trey Songz make a diss response?.
You have to degrade women to show off that you're not one of those ****** while actually doing so anyway?
I have no hatred of women or femininity. Beyoncé is selling a product at the end of the day (her music/tickets) and interestingly always does so half naked and I doubt it's because of her appreciation of spending hours on set in lingerie freezing her ass off and having old creepy photographers eye her down as she puts on a thong or takes off her top. She knows it's what will sell though so that's what she does. She's not doing anything groundbreaking because this is how most females in the industry are marketed. They're either all feminists(Rihanna,Katy,Gaga etc) or Beyoncé is extremely off base.
