[Elusive Chanteuse]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

Her whole career pre-Jagged was a Canadian tribute to Janet Jackson, Paula Abdul and Debbie Gibson.

I didn't know that bitch could dance like that, tho. I thought "So Pure" was a fluke.

Do you remember when Courtney Love dragged her for being Madonna's creation?

Maddonna wishes Id slag her. how can I insult wallpaper? Except to say, "That wallpaper in your Guest Room kinda sucks & ignore it? Her disco sucks. Thats all. Finito. Im a Rock chick. Rock chicks dont like disco. Ok? In another publication she said that Whitney and Mariah have 'no point of view'. Fair Enough. But, what? She does? heh heh heh. I dont particularly know or Dislike her, I just think she is utterly ARTLESS.

As for Alanis Morissette, I disagree with you Mr Guccione, Ms. Morissette is a Product of Madonnas Fatal Flaw, contrivance at every level, at Maverick it was said to us that; (circa Early 91); "those Guys at Geffen are total Geniuses for Thinking up this whole 'Grunge' Thing, and putting that Nirvana Band together" - They, in thier laugh tracks, backing tracks, payola, paid cheering sections and contrived Artist minds could not even concieve that a seminal real Band could exist & succeed.

[Willy.]

Originally posted by Harmonic Dreamer

Actually blues and gospel. The backwood Bama coons and hicks used to gather in sheds and sing about the woes of being poor.

Exactly. There's so much musical history that's been erased.

[Dream]

Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts

just a little while, her lead single was getting strong sales, airplay, and video play on mtv/mtv hits before the superbowl. it completely vanished afterward. all nite also would have been a hit had the blacklist not happened. i doubt damita jo would have matched all for you's sales but it definitely wouldn't have stalled at platinum.

i agree the european leg being canceled due to 9/11 did help alienate her european fans but she was planning to make up for it by making a more extensive tour in 2004 but that couldn't happen because she couldn't find a sponsor or venues who would take her since she was blacklisted.

I think if the Superbowl didn't happen, Damita Jo would have sold 4m-5m WW and ~2m in the US but who knows how the rest of her career would have panned out.

yeah it's a shame, I think if she was able to tour for Damita Jo it would have really helped her recover. Especially in Europe who got screwed over by the AFY tour being cancelled.

[bringhimdowndown]

Omg this avi.

XO should have smashed. That is my last straw with respecting the GP their worthless opinion.

[MissedTheTrain]

A few of the people in this thread need to have a seat trying to come for Kelly's vocals
http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=526271

[bringhimdowndown]

Alanis Morissette has no black or urban influence, stop being embarrassing.

[Willy.]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

Not Willy educating the girls and showing their ignorance.

And on the last day of Black History Month. Going out with a BANG!

The lack of musical knowledge is unsettling.

[christ]

Originally posted by iHypeMusic

Kanye West or Naah?

For the last time Kanye did very little to raise Taylors profile.
America was already in love with the princess before he started hating

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by CloseMyEyes

Do you remember when Courtney Love dragged her for being Madonna's creation?

Yeessss, punch Vadge and Alanis OUT.

[Willy.]

Originally posted by bringhimdowndown

Alanis Morissette has no black or urban influence, stop being embarrassing.

Do you not comprehend that the genre in which she participates in was formed by black musicians?

Nobody is saying that she was directly influenced by Urban music, but she wouldn't be able to create that type of music (instead of that bubblegum mess she originally was going) without that foundation.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Willy.

Lol @ the Pop friendly route. You used Drake as an example before. HOWGH isn't a Pop song. It's R&B. Just because Pop radio plays a song doesn't make it intentionally Pop-friendly.

The only Pop friendly album Kanye has released was 808s.

Just because Pop fans LIKE a Hip-Hop act, doesn't mean said artist is intentionally trying to cater to them.

Do you think all Rap is about thugging downsouth and hustling?

HOWGH is pop influenced lol. It's clearly radio friendly and I'm not debating that.

Kanye has released many pop friendly albums before Yeezus.

Pop fans like a hip hop act when he tries to cater to them (I know Adele is not a hip hop example to use, but just compare 19 to 21).

I'm done discussing this boring topic, and I'm still not racist.

[Harmonic Dreamer]

I had a course on the history of modern/contemporary music way back in my freshman year.
I was kinda but not really shocked that Black people invented music.
It's beautiful tbh. And they don't get the credit for it.
Your faves wouldn't be singing what they would if it wasn't for their Black counterparts.

[Dream]

probably the best madonna has ever looked, the bedtime stories era was everything

[bijonse]

Originally posted by bringhimdowndown

Alanis Morissette has no black or urban influence, stop being embarrassing.

if she has stepped foot in a studio and recorded music there is a 100% chance she has been influenced by black music

also can we call a spade a spade and start calling urban music black music because what its code for

[BabyCantYouSee]

Originally posted by christ

For the last time Kanye did very little to raise Taylors profile.
America was already in love with the princess before he started hating

Taylor wouldn't be where she is if it wasn't for Kanye. That's why she was milking every moment when it happened.

[Chemical X.]

Originally posted by bijonse

loud isnt even that good and lov7 song & no love allowed are like the best from unapologetic

Girl, me and a few of the other Navy members are always trying to get these girls to realize that. Honestly we don't use the non-base Navys because they're usually messy, racist, and have horrible taste. People who want Rih to avoid urban/reggae influences and do straight up pop are delusional imo

[NX127]

Mexico and Argentina year-end albom charts

Do they even know Beyonce there

[SaDaré]

Originally posted by BabyCantYouSee

Better dancer, better singer, hotter, more swagger

I think so.

Better singer? ehhhh. Both really can't "sing". But Rih can carry a tune a lot better.
Also Ciara's music aside from "Body Party" in recent years has been pretty awful.

However there was a time (Goodies, The Evolution) when she used to slay. At that time I would've agreed.

[iHype.]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

HOWGH is pop influenced lol.

Pop isn't even a real genre. What is Pop and what are it's influences in music?

[Willy.]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

HOWGH is pop influenced lol. It's clearly radio friendly and I'm not debating that.

Kanye has released many pop friendly albums before Yeezus.

Pop fans like a hip hop act when he tries to cater to them (I know Adele is not a hip hop example to use, but just compare 19 to 21).

I'm done discussing this boring topic, and I'm still not racist.

So because something is radio friendly it's Pop influenced? Where is the logic?

None of Kanye's other albums were Pop friendly. Just because they had a hook (like most Hip-Hop singles do) doesn't make them such.

N*ggas in Paris is radio friendly for Urban radio, does that mean it's Pop influenced, even though Pop played it?