[Javan]

Willy, you always say I reminds/look like someone you know. Maybe we have met in our previous lives

[Sinister]

as for me...i prefer my cooking over others so I'm most likely going to be the one cooking a lot

But whoever comes home first ideally will cook

[jeeriz]

Originally posted by KB.

Of course... because that's what society shapes you to believe.

A real man would be happy that he got a woman that worked hard enough to become a doctor. Money is only a superficial aspect of it.

I guess that's why flawless ass bitches have to marry a ***** that's at least on her level so he can still have that sense of "pride".

Originally posted by KB.

Of course you wouldn't agree, but I honestly don't give a damn. Y'all can settle for these basic ass hoes that rely on you, but that's not me and that's never going to be me. I have my own and I take pride in that.

Men love having that power over women, that pride knowing that their woman doesn't have **** without them. It's something for them to hold over our heads. That's all it is really. Men are intimidated by a woman that doesn't necessarily need him. It's emasculating to them.

[Javan]

Originally posted by Sinister

as for me...i prefer my cooking over others so I'm most likely going to be the one cooking a lot

But whoever comes home first ideally will cook

Sksksn. I just had a scary premonition that I came home from work and my wife eating and she ain't cook me none. Can you imagine?

[Chemical X.]

Originally posted by Javan

Because its unattractive. "50/50" lol . Will it still be 50/50 when your pregnant self is on the couch all day and I'm putting da food on the table?

Originally posted by Javan

Sksksn. I just had a scary premonition that I came home from work and my wife eating and she ain't cook me none. Can you imagine?

Since when is being equal being oppressive? Men would never tolerate the role women currently have in society, so why should we? Why can't be be just as entitled as your are?

Javan sis, I hope you dye your hair an ugly ass color and it all falls out. I hope your acne never goes away and leaves horrible scars on your eggplant-shaped mug. I hope you're 70 years old and still slathering on concealer/foundation to hide the distracting, gross, dark ass marks on you face. You're an ass-backward, ignorant mess who clearly has a warped view of reality. I mean really, pregnant woman usually work up until the week they give birth they certainly aren't sitting around doing nothing. And I would think that the health and safety of your future child, along with the health and well-being of your future wife, would me more important than who's doing the most work. Why should women have to carry all the burdens of a relationship? What is wrong with a 50/50 companionship? And what is wrong with women who choose to be alone and take care of themselves?

Ultimately, I wonder if you realize all the ******** you've spewed in this thread derives from the white oppressive systems that affect your own daily life. The colonizers of Africa instilled this ******** in your culture, it wasn't there before they arrived. Are you proud to promote the horrible ideologies they forced onto your people? Are you afraid to give up the little power they've let black men have, the power that allows them to mistreat the black women in their lives and treat them unfairly? Women are just as human as you, just as nuanced, just as complex. You sound selfish, ignorant, and stupid when you continue to spread patriarchal ******** in 2014. Learn to have a mind of your own and try to be a better human being. Thanks

[jeeriz]

[Big Smoke]

Originally posted by KB.

at you insinuating that pregnant women can't work or that maternity leave isn't paid.

And it isn't "attractive"? So? Everything a woman does has to be attractive to men? You sound so ignorant, Javan, and it's a bit sad.

Trust me Pregnancy makes it difficult to work.

[KB.]

Originally posted by Big Smoke

Trust me Pregnancy makes it difficult to work.

Oh you've been pregnant before? Have you ever even had a period? Don't tell me how difficult something only a woman can anatomically experience is.

It varies from woman to woman, but I know plenty of women who worked up to the week before their due date, took their 6 weeks maternity leave, and went back to work

[Javan]

Originally posted by Chemical X.

Javan sis, I hope you dye your hair an ugly ass color and it all falls out. I hope your acne never goes away and leaves horrible scars on your eggplant-shaped mug. I hope you're 70 years old and still slathering on concealer/foundation to hide the distracting, gross, dark ass marks on you face. You're an ass-backward, ignorant mess who clearly has a warped view of reality.

I feel like this is a personal insult

Originally posted by Chemical X.

I mean really, pregnant woman usually work up until the week they give birth they certainly aren't sitting around doing nothing.

Not all of them tho. And most women cannot raise a child and work full time.

Originally posted by Chemical X.

Why should women have to carry all the burdens of a relationship?

Do they tho? I would say the financial burden is the greatest burden.

Originally posted by Chemical X.

And what is wrong with women who choose to be alone and take care of themselves?

I never once said there was anything wrong with that.

Originally posted by Chemical X.

Ultimately, I wonder if you realize all the ******** you've spewed in this thread derives from the white oppressive systems that affect your own daily life. The colonizers of Africa instilled this ******** in your culture, it wasn't there before they arrived. Are you proud to promote the horrible ideologies they forced onto your people?

Gal shaddup. If anything religion brought more status women in Africa. Before colonization women didn't own land, nor did the own homes. The father would be in charge of trade and all agricultural decisions. The multiple wives and children would all live in one home, and do the menial work, and the father would have his own home. So please miss me with that BS, thanks.

[Chemical X.]

Originally posted by Javan

I feel like this is a personal insult


Not all of them tho. And most women cannot raise a child and work full time.

Do they tho? I would say the financial burden is the greatest burden.

I never once said there was anything wrong with that.



Gal shaddup. If anything religion brought more status women in Africa. Before colonization women didn't own land, nor did the own homes. The father would be in charge of trade and all agricultural decisions. The multiple wives and children would all live in one home, and do the menial work, and the father would have his own home. So please miss me with that BS, thanks.

Let me address this one point at a time.

Yes, that was a personal insult.


Woman work full-time and raise children all the time... ideally two partners should be able to work and co-parent but that isn't always the case.

If you think financial burden is the greatest burden of a relationship, then why would you want men and men alone to be responsible for it? Why shouldn't a woman work and contribute to a family's finances? What's wrong with a woman earning more money than her husband? As long as a family has adequate funds it REALLY shouldn't matter. In a 50/50 companionship NONE of a family's burdens should fall on one person.

And finally, you still haven't denied that the misogynistic views you uphold are a symptom of white supremacy. Women are supposedly able to do more, but you still think their sole job should be popping out babies and taking care of the house. What a juvenile, sad, ignorant opinion to uphold.

[I Am Music]

[Javan]

Also, I was mostly talking about my own country (Nigeria) when it comes to gender roles tbh. In West Africa pretty much everyone is accepting of their gender roles and I assumed it's the same in Europe, but the younger generation here feel some sort of shame admitting it. In Nigeria, you will never catch a woman dating an equal or inferior in anyway. The really do frown upon it. In Nigeria we have something call dawri(idk how to spell it), when the leaders of the community/tribe make a list of all the things the man must offer before he is allowed to marry thier woman. It's a tradition and it's to show that a man has what it takes to also provide for his wife. Nobody sees anything wrong with it. Our culture differs but I don't think western culture is superior in that aspect at all.

[KB.]

Wait, Chemical X! Bitch, you better clock!

[Sinister]

lol...my mother worked up until a couple of days before I was born and she had 2 other children to take care of

But of course its better if the partner is there...less stress and finacially safer

[Chemical X.]

Originally posted by Javan

Also, I was mostly talking about my own country (Nigeria) when it comes to gender roles tbh. In West Africa pretty much everyone is accepting of their gender roles and I assumed it's the same in Europe, but the younger generation here feel some sort of shame admitting it. In Nigeria, you will never catch a woman dating an equal or inferior in anyway. The really do frown upon it. In Nigeria we have something call dawri(idk how to spell it), when the leaders of the community/tribe make a list of all the things the man must offer before he is allowed to marry thier woman. It's a tradition and it's to show that a man has what it takes to also provide for his wife. Nobody sees anything wrong with it. Our culture differs but I don't think western culture is superior in that aspect at all.

The SWIFT backtrack.

Are you sure they're ashamed or is there a chance they don't agree with it? And please, don't act like this is about Western vs. African cultures. The same views can be found all over the world thanks to colonization. I already told your slow ass that this **** evolved from white supremacy. Keep up sis

Regardless of where those views came from, I never said anything about a man "providing" for a woman. If a man wants to support the woman he marries, I'm totally cool with that. But a woman should also be able to receive support for things such as housework, raising children, and taking care of the family. Why are men only supposed to support their women in one aspect of the relationship? And again, women should be able to contribute to the financial well-being of their families as well.

Tbh, nothing you said in this post has anything to do with what you were saying earlier. You were SPECIFICALLY talking about the role a woman should have in a relationship, not whether they should be "marrying up." You sound dizzy and confused.

[Javan]

Originally posted by Chemical X.

Woman work full-time and raise children all the time...

Not really. Especially not in the UK.

Originally posted by Chemical X.

ideally two partners should be able to work and co-parent but that isn't always the case.

Yes, ideal someone can work full time (father) and someone can work part time and nurture the child (mother) to create a stable environment for a child... I didn't say any other way is impossible/wrong, I'm just saying it's not ideal.

Originally posted by Chemical X.

If you think financial burden is the greatest burden of a relationship, then why would you want men and men alone to be responsible for it?

I'm not saying that's not what I want. As I pointed out, the women is the one who gets pregnant,nurture child and therefore generally can't work full time. As a result, men are responsible for the main source of income.

Originally posted by Chemical X.

What's wrong with a woman earning more money than her husband?

I personally find that weird. Even the Braxton girls weren't having it. But if it works for some people they can go ahead, but I know it aint work for most.

Originally posted by Chemical X.

And finally, you still haven't denied that the misogynistic views you uphold are a symptom of white supremacy.

But it's not, that's the thing. This culture has been prevalent in south asia since the beginning of time :deadbabnana:. You've just proved that like most Americans, you don't know **** aout africa. I bet you think that we all live in trees too.

Originally posted by Chemical X.

Women are supposedly able to do more, but you still think their sole job should be popping out babies and taking care of the house. What a juvenile, sad, ignorant opinion to uphold.
.

No, it's not their purpose as a women, it's their purpose as a mother. I'm all here for my gal having money of her own, let her do her own projects n stuff but I'm not here for dismissing our roles as parents completely.

[jeeriz]

My mother earns three time more than my father
he doesn't feel emasculated at all
fortunately men dont share the same mentality.

[Javan]

Originally posted by Chemical X.

The same views can be found all over the world thanks to colonization. I already told your slow ass that this **** evolved from white supremacy. Keep up sis

But it didn't tho . Have you ever heard of the Qu'ran? Sounds like you just like to blame everything on white ppl tbh

Originally posted by Chemical X.

Regardless of where those views came from, I never said anything about a man "providing" for a woman. If a man wants to support the woman he marries, I'm totally cool with that. But a woman should also be able to receive support for things such as housework, raising children, and taking care of the family.

Ugh, I didn't say men shouldn't help raise children/housework etc. I'm saying that father & mother both have different roles to focus on in a family household. A woman simpily can not carry a child and work full time as easily as a man can. Not to mention it's not healthy for the child. We are not equal. But there is a balance. Aint no shame in admitting that.

[Javan]

Originally posted by Sinister

lol...my mother worked up until a couple of days before I was born and she had 2 other children to take care of

But of course its better if the partner is there...less stress and finacially safer

Better if a partner is there to do what?

Originally posted by jeeriz

My mother earns three time more than my father
he doesn't feel emasculated at all
fortunately all men dont share the same mentality.

Good for ha'.

[jeeriz]

Originally posted by Javan

Good for ha'.

I hope you future wife will be smart enough to have the same ambition.