[Haus]

Originally posted by MysticNight

Originally posted by geemarty

Aliens

Don't even girls. Asylum may have had many different things going on but at least that kept it interesting, and every aspect contributed to the overall theme, even the aliens. Last night's episode displayed ONE central story and that's why it failed. If they wanted to do it like that, they should've let the story make some progress, but it didn't. Yeah, a couple people died, but that was completely unnecessary and didn't move the main plot anywhere. Misty will come back. Nan could too, assuming Misty would be able to pull her spirit back from Papa. These are all minor road bumps and the only main thing that happened was the witch hunter's business got searched by the government... which they hardly gave any screen time.

Originally posted by Sinvius

I swear to God people on this site can find flaws in literally everything. No humility whatsoever. Everyone's a critic, I guess.

The episode was fairly good, it had everything that AHS is known for. The only thing I find a bit troubling is the fact that they do a lot of stuff at once, makes it hard to keep up. And Asylum was just like that with there being like 4 different themes of the season. Aliens, a demon possessing Mary Eunice, that scientist doing experiments, the whole Asylum, Bloody face etc etc

I'm a major AHS fan. Have been since season 1. I'm not just looking for things to bitch about; this episode seriously disappointed me. We only have 13 episodes so every one better be damn near perfect with no wasted time. They could literally erase this episode and the show would probably still flow smoothly. The story progress wasn't there.

Originally posted by Kitt

It's against her will, no? Sure, she ignorantly made a deal with Papa Legba, but she didn't know at what cost. Hell, she even begged to take the spell back once she realized. Even if it weren't babies, the "services" would be something just as extreme. She could stop with the offerings and I don't know, die, but from what we've seen you could tell throughout her years she's developed a family and safe haven for people. Sacrificing herself would've meant leaving her people in danger and alone; she's always had that maternal nature about her. And out of all the corrupt characters here, I'd have to say, Marie's one of the very few selfless ones who at least attempt to uphold some moral justice in her actions.

Delphine's torture was well deserved

It doesn't matter if it's against her will. She still does it. She could just stop and suffer the consequences. To torture Delphine like she did when she herself murders a baby and causes another family to suffer every single year is pure hypocrisy. What Delphine did was horrible but at least she's making progress. She warmed up to Queenie and the bitch betrayed her she's getting done horribly wrong and I hope she gets her revenge on them.

Originally posted by Samuel

This actually is true. There's not enough plot/character development, this season is literally 50% just those girls arguing about who's going to be the next Supreme, and it's getting kinda boring.

Thank you. I was literally getting irritated because every scene involving the girls they mentioned "supreme". It's getting old. It's a cool concept but I'd rather see them actually doing things with their powers instead of just having useless discussions about it.

[Gee]

Originally posted by Haus

Don't even girls. Asylum may have had many different things going on but at least that kept it interesting, and every aspect contributed to the overall theme, even the aliens. Last night's episode displayed ONE central story and that's why it failed. If they wanted to do it like that, they should've let the story make some progress, but it didn't. Yeah, a couple people died, but that was completely unnecessary and didn't move the main plot anywhere. Misty will come back. Nan could too, assuming Misty would be able to pull her spirit back from Papa. These are all minor road bumps and the only main thing that happened was the witch hunter's business got searched by the government... which they hardly gave any screen time.

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Asylum had many things going on that ultimately mean't nothing in the end. The only story line that was remotely interesting that had a decent closure was Lana's - So let's not.

You're also saying that the episode had one central story line but yet you brought up three different plot points that need to explored further.

As of right now the writing is moving at a steady pace and it seems like the minor plot points are going to lead to bigger things. I'll gladly eat my words if everything goes south by the end of the season but as of right now Coven is eons ahead of Asylum.

[DDRdashing]

the craziest scene was Papa Legba doing a line

[BlooRiverAnimal]

Lemme rewatch this episode.

[fortheloveofmusic]

I wonder what happened to the man Madison revived at the graveyard

@ the two-step funeral

[RihannasVeryOwn]

I nearly jumped out of my skin when they showed Papa
That dude is so scary omg

[Haus]

Originally posted by geemarty

Asylum had many things going on that ultimately mean't nothing in the end. The only story line that was remotely interesting that had a decent closure was Lana's - So let's not.

You're also saying that the episode had one central story line but yet you brought up three different plot points that need to explored further.

As of right now the writing is moving at a steady pace and it seems like the minor plot points are going to lead to bigger things. I'll gladly eat my words if everything goes south by the end of the season but as of right now Coven is eons ahead of Asylum.

Bye

Aliens = everything to do with Kitt and his family
Bloody face = tied in with Lana and Thredson's story
Mary Eunice being possessed = led to the suicide of Dr. Arden and dethroning of Sister Jude
Zombie experiments = semi-useless but they tied in with Dr. Arden's story of being a Nazi

Asylum wasn't nearly as messy as people like to make it out to be. Not to mention messy works because it's a damn ASYLUM. The craziness is what makes me love the season so much. There was always something going on but they spaced out the story lines enough so that they didn't burn out right away, and they actually contributed to the story.

The deaths of Misty and Nan just seem useless. At this point, Misty isn't the only person capable of bringing someone back from the dead, so anyone who dies off will probably return. Madison will obviously not bring Misty back but Misty had a plan for herself. Madison could potentially bring Nan back, or Misty will once she's back .

Basically, I just want to see more development on the main story of protecting the coven and getting their **** back in order. I like having side stories, but last night's episode wasn't even a good example of that. They paid no attention to Delphine, Queenie, or Zoe, and instead filled the episode with "supreme" talk, killing off people who will probably return, Stevie Nicks singing, and Papa Lebga. They contributed absolutely nothing and wasted precious screen time. I don't know where the story will even go if there's only 3 more episodes.

And honestly what will even happen with the witch hunters? They come to the house... then what? There better be some kind of epic battle where all of the witches come together and use their powers to kill them, not just some boring demise where Madison flips their vehicle over or something. Overall the story feels like it's moving too slowly and if these next 3 episodes aren't a complete cluster**** of exciting events, I'm going to be very disappointed because the story has yet to climax.

[Triton]

I got so much life from Nan last night, it's sad she got knocked out so quickly, when Fiona arrived I feared for her in the future then 5 minutes later she's gone, I kind of hoped she would let them both Marie and Fiona have it while she was being drowned, maybe drop that chandelier over their heads.

From her knocking out Zoe, making Joan drink the bleach and making Madison **** herself with a cigarette I almost died. At least she went out with a bang. It should have been Zoe who died though, she's worthless.

Yass for Madison knocking out that swamp bitch and looking fabulous while doing so, I hope she did a spell where she replaces one life with another, bringing life to that old man and swapping it with the useless Misty Day.

The scene where Fiona Sharkeshia'd Cordelia was glorious, I thought she was going for Marie. I think now Cordelia will be the next Supreme and she better let Fiona have it and drag her to the pits of hell.

I'm still laughing at the cocaine spell to bring in that Papa and him rejecting her.

[santos]

I need to know who's the next Supreme

[Navyman]

Originally posted by geemarty

Asylum had many things going on that ultimately mean't nothing in the end. The only story line that was remotely interesting that had a decent closure was Lana's - So let's not.

You're also saying that the episode had one central story line but yet you brought up three different plot points that need to explored further.

As of right now the writing is moving at a steady pace and it seems like the minor plot points are going to lead to bigger things. I'll gladly eat my words if everything goes south by the end of the season but as of right now Coven is eons ahead of Asylum.

!
If someone can explain to me the purpose of the aliens in season 2, because I thought it was pretty useless. They could have used that concept only to create a full season(S4- American Horror Story: Area 51) S3 is the best one by far.

[Gee]

Originally posted by Haus

Bye

Aliens = everything to do with Kitt and his family
Bloody face = tied in with Lana and Thredson's story
Mary Eunice being possessed = led to the suicide of Dr. Arden and dethroning of Sister Jude
Zombie experiments = semi-useless but they tied in with Dr. Arden's story of being a Nazi

Asylum wasn't nearly as messy as people like to make it out to be. Not to mention messy works because it's a damn ASYLUM. The craziness is what makes me love the season so much. There was always something going on but they spaced out the story lines enough so that they didn't burn out right away, and they actually contributed to the story.

The deaths of Misty and Nan just seem useless. At this point, Misty isn't the only person capable of bringing someone back from the dead, so anyone who dies off will probably return. Madison will obviously not bring Misty back but Misty had a plan for herself. Madison could potentially bring Nan back, or Misty will once she's back.

Basically, I just want to see more development on the main story of protecting the coven and getting their **** back in order. I like having side stories, but last night's episode wasn't even a good example of that. They paid no attention to Delphine, Queenie, or Zoe, and instead filled the episode with "supreme" talk, killing off people who will probably return, Stevie Nicks singing, and Papa Lebga. They contributed absolutely nothing and wasted precious screen time. I don't know where the story will even go if there's only 3 more episodes.

And honestly what will even happen with the witch hunters? They come to the house... then what? There better be some kind of epic battle where all of the witches come together and use their powers to kill them, not just some boring demise where Madison flips their vehicle over or something. Overall the story feels like it's moving too slowly and if these next 3 episodes aren't a complete cluster**** of exciting events, I'm going to be very disappointed because the story has yet to climax.

Uh... Bye

Aliens - Ultimately mean't nothing in the end. I wasn't expecting them to explain where they came from or why because it allows a little mystery... It just wasn't done well at all and felt completely thrown together.

Bloody Face - I agree that this was the only story line that felt completely told and had meaning.

Mary Eunice - Was good until her un-timely death. The way she was taken down was just so sudden - She was the DEVIL to go out like that just felt like a cheat.

The Mutants/Nazi - Mean't nothing in the end and we're only thrown in to shock the audience.

Don't get me wrong... I saw the entire season start to finish. If I didn't think it was entertaining I wouldn't have done so. But to say Asylum is anywhere near the same league as Coven or above it is just absurd.

Asylum is messy and warrants all the criticism it's received as does Coven, but, if you take a look at the ratings you can see the difference - The viewers and even the critics have spoken.

[WoozyFloozy]

Originally posted by Haus

The deaths of Misty and Nan just seem useless. At this point, Misty isn't the only person capable of bringing someone back from the dead, so anyone who dies off will probably return. Madison will obviously not bring Misty back but Misty had a plan for herself. Madison could potentially bring Nan back, or Misty will once she's back .

I assumed Madison just hired the guy to act dead so she could trick Misty, but then again I was only halfway watching. Is there anything to refute that?

[BlooRiverAnimal]

I still think Zoe is the next supreme.

[Enne Driver.]

Originally posted by Triton

I got so much life from Nan last night, it's sad she got knocked out so quickly, when Fiona arrived I feared for her in the future then 5 minutes later she's gone, I kind of hoped she would let them both Marie and Fiona have it while she was being drowned, maybe drop that chandelier over their heads.

From her knocking out Zoe, making Joan drink the bleach and making Madison **** herself with a cigarette I almost died. At least she went out with a bang. It should have been Zoe who died though, she's worthless.

Yass for Madison knocking out that swamp bitch and looking fabulous while doing so, I hope she did a spell where she replaces one life with another, bringing life to that old man and swapping it with the useless Misty Day.

The scene where Fiona Sharkeshia'd Cordelia was glorious, I thought she was going for Marie. I think now Cordelia will be the next Supreme and she better let Fiona have it and drag her to the pits of hell.

I'm still laughing at the cocaine spell to bring in that Papa and him rejecting her.

If it wasn't for Misty, Madison would still be dead .

I didn't except Nan to die at all, Marie and Fiona are terrible together, but it doesn't feel really genuine how know they are partners in crime, there are a lot of bad developing in this season as I said.

The next episode will be all centered about Lalaurie, and she will be Evil as before


I love Stevie Nicks, but I was a little disappointed, I wanted her to be super witchy and don't know talk about how magic affected her life as a musican or things like that not just standing there a sings (Singing two amazing songs though).

[Haus]

Originally posted by geemarty

Uh... Bye

Aliens - Ultimately mean't nothing in the end. I wasn't expecting them to explain where they came from or why because it allows a little mystery... It just wasn't done well at all and felt completely thrown together.

Bloody Face - I agree that this was the only story line that felt completely told and had meaning.

Mary Eunice - Was good until her un-timely death. The way she was taken down was just so sudden - She was the DEVIL to go out like that just felt like a cheat.

The Mutants/Nazi - Mean't nothing in the end and we're only thrown in to shock the audience.

Don't get me wrong... I saw the entire season start to finish. If I didn't think it was entertaining I wouldn't have done so. But to say Asylum is anywhere near the same league as Coven or above it is just absurd.

Asylum is messy and warrants all the criticism it's received as does Coven, but, if you take a look at the ratings you can see the difference - The viewers and even the critics have spoken.

The aliens were an integral part of Kitt's life... just because they didn't have a real conclusion doesn't make the storyline useless

Uh Asylum is certainly comparable to Coven. They both have their pros and cons. Coven's story doesn't progress enough whereas Asylum's story made great progress, and that's my main problem with Coven. I think people just like to hate on Asylum because it was so different from Murder House... when in reality, Murder House is the worst season (not saying it was bad).

There's not really a point in arguing this since our opinions are obviously different. I still love Coven but last night's episode was terrible. That's all.

Originally posted by WoozyFloozy

I assumed Madison just hired the guy to act dead so she could trick Misty, but then again I was only halfway watching. Is there anything to refute that?

Well that would mean she faked an entire funeral. I suppose it's possible considering she's an actress but that seems incredibly extreme when she could dispose of Misty numerous easier ways.

[MysticNight]

Fume a biT.

[Samuel]

Originally posted by geemarty

Uh... Bye

Aliens - Ultimately mean't nothing in the end. I wasn't expecting them to explain where they came from or why because it allows a little mystery... It just wasn't done well at all and felt completely thrown together.

Bloody Face - I agree that this was the only story line that felt completely told and had meaning.

Mary Eunice - Was good until her un-timely death. The way she was taken down was just so sudden - She was the DEVIL to go out like that just felt like a cheat.

The Mutants/Nazi - Mean't nothing in the end and we're only thrown in to shock the audience.

Don't get me wrong... I saw the entire season start to finish. If I didn't think it was entertaining I wouldn't have done so. But to say Asylum is anywhere near the same league as Coven or above it is just absurd.

Asylum is messy and warrants all the criticism it's received as does Coven, but, if you take a look at the ratings you can see the difference - The viewers and even the critics have spoken.

The aliens storyline wasn't supposed to be answered, it was supposed to be a mystery. That was kinda the whole point of it.

Mary Eunice's death was executed perfectly fine in my opinion. The scene was great, when the real Mary Eunice manages to break free from the Devil and begs the Monsignor to kill her, and he pushes her off the stairway. I thought it was done great.

The mutants kind of did add to the storyline, that was the entire reason why the Monsignor couldn't report the methods used in the asylum/Shelley's mutilation because he had already given Arden permission to do them, and that's why he kills himself out of guilt at the end. And the whole reason Arden kills himself is because of Pepper telling him that the aliens consider his experiments jokes and it puts him into a depression.

At least most of Asylum's plots tie into the main storyline/main character's storylines, Coven has just as much going on but it doesn't even link together.

Asylum is better. It's scarier, the characters are more likeable, there's more character development, more plot development, more suspense, it's better filmed, etc. I don't get why anyone prefers Coven other than the fact that it's more glamorous, campy and over-the-top.

[MysticNight]

You're all going to be perched when Carnival/Circus comes next year and slays every other season

[Kitt]

Originally posted by Haus

It doesn't matter if it's against her will. She still does it. She could just stop and suffer the consequences. To torture Delphine like she did when she herself murders a baby and causes another family to suffer every single year is pure hypocrisy. What Delphine did was horrible but at least she's making progress. She warmed up to Queenie and the bitch betrayed her she's getting done horribly wrong and I hope she gets her revenge on them.

Oh you're one of those people. Yeah, we'll never see eye to eye on that matter then, but I see where you're coming from with the other points here! But this is Coven, nobody's going or supposed to be a saint even if they're portrayals of real people. We've got to work with what we've got

[Samuel]

Originally posted by Maneater

I really enjoyed this episode tbh.




I'm crying at your avi, is that Katy?

It's Katy and it's iconic. They should cast her for the next season.