[BadBitch]

Originally posted by Darren-5-08

I can't wait for my Sunday roast tomorrow. And no-one is gonna stop me from eating it, and nothing anyone posts will make me feel bad about it. Vegetarians can preach all they want. Eat your salad or tofu or quorn. I'll eat my roast beef. I know who is missing out.

Eating the flesh of a dead corpse is not something that i would envy.
There are numerous reasons as to why eating meat is bad for you. So who is exactly missing out? I can't you guys using that same old flawed logic to justify eating something that's not good for you.

[Darren-5-08]

Originally posted by BadBitch

Eating the flesh of a dead corpse is not something that i would envy.
There are numerous reasons as to why eating meat is bad for you. So who is exactly missing out? I can't you guys using that same old flawed logic to justify eating something that's not good for you.

And as a medical student, I could give you a number of reasons why eating meat is good for you.

I could also give you a number of reasons why vegetarians for moral reasons are statistically more likely to lack necessary nutrients compared to omnivorous humans and vegetarians for health reasons, which is much to do with complete lack of nutritional knowledge.

I wouldn't make a comment about 'flawed logic' to a medical student who is actually educated to comment.

[Latch]

Originally posted by Darren-5-08

Eating meat is unnecessary because you can manipulate your diet to get all necessary nutrients without it. But killing animals to eat them isn't pointless, because they provide an additional way of getting those nutrients.

Wearing fur is unnecessary because you can manipulate your clothing to get all necessary warmth without it. But killing animals to wear fur isn't pointless, because they provide an additional way of getting that warmth.

This does not make NEAR as much sense as you think it does

[BadBitch]

Originally posted by Darren-5-08

And as a medical student, I could give you a number of reasons why eating meat is good for you.

I could also give you a number of reasons why vegetarians for moral reasons are statistically more likely to lack necessary nutrients compared to omnivorous humans and vegetarians for health reasons, which is much to do with complete lack of nutritional knowledge.

I wouldn't make a comment about 'flawed logic' to a medical student who is actually educated to comment.

Outside of B-12, Iron and "Protein" what does meat give you?

All those things could be found in other healthier alternatives without risking your health and along with somethings life. meat contains over numerous amount of hormones which hurts the bodies developmental process during earlier ages. The anti-biotics they use to sustain the animals from getting sick while being tightly trap into small, dirty facility is bad for the body. Meat is also the #1 cause of Heart Disease since full of saturated fat and high cholesterol. These things can also lead to endless amount of other preventable dieases such as diabetes, Alzheimer, high blood pressure. strokes etc. Not to mention most meat contains E-colli which is literally animal feces. This has been proven by the Men's Health Magazine (who named chicken the dirtiest food in supermarkets), FDA, along with other credible sources.

[Darren-5-08]

Originally posted by Latch

This does not make NEAR as much sense as you think it does

I was once opposed to wearing fur. I decided to change my mind. Someone made that comment to me (or something along those lines) and that thought grew in my head until I realised the truth in it.

[Darren-5-08]

Originally posted by BadBitch

Outside of B-12, Iron and "Protein" what does meat give you?

All those things could be found in other healthier alternatives without risking your health and along with somethings life. meat contains over numerous amount of hormones which hurts the bodies developmental process during earlier ages. The anti-biotics they use to sustain the animals from getting sick while being tightly trap into small, dirty facility is bad for the body. Meat is also the #1 cause of Heart Disease since full of saturated fat and high cholesterol. These things can also lead to endless amount of other preventable dieases such as diabetes, Alzheimer, high blood pressure. strokes etc. Not to mention most meat contains E-colli which is literally animal feces. This has been proven by the Men's Health Magazine (who named chicken the dirtiest food in supermarkets), FDA, along with other credible sources.

I am on my phone, so I can't give a full response right now, but I should respond...

The effect of animal hormones is exaggerated in the body. Few can actually be absorbed, and those that do are broken down as foreign.

Eating organic foods, which I do, puts a limit other amounts of antibiotics used.

Eating meat is NOT the #1 cause of heart disease. High cholesterol is, but just because meats contain it do not make what you said true.

Most meat contains E. coli? So does the human gut.

Excess sugar is much more likely to cause diabetes than meat, and vegetarian diets are much more likely to contain sugar.

Men's Health credible? My sources... Nature. WHO.

Why not see what they say are the dangers of a vegetarian diet if not done properly, which most vegetarians don't?

[i spit on haters]

Great musician, but, I detest people who feel so strongly against eating meat. Forcing others to pick up the same eating habits as you won't change anything.

[Quiqui4eva]

I really hope he's not being serious

[Cheetos]

Originally posted by BadBitch

Animals matter just as much as humans. The false superiority over animals is exactly our problem.

except not. We ARE superior to animals by nature. That's why we eat them. They're NOT humans.

[Gotham Aurora]

He sounds both ignorant & delusional.
I don't see how anyone even takes him seriously.

[Wildcat]

Sorry but >>>

[ChapelHooker]

The ignorance and stupidity in this thread tho.

[Arcosmusic]

I think the bottom line here is that KILLING an animal is still KILLING. There is no humane way of doing it. You can't justify it. This shouldn't be a debate about nutrients/benefits.

Where are the animal lovers? Don't you guys NOT have pets?

[Gotham Aurora]

Originally posted by Arcosmusic

I think the bottom line here is that KILLING an animal is still KILLING. There is no humane way of doing it. You can't justify it. This shouldn't be a debate about nutrients/benefits.

Where are the animal lovers? Don't you guys NOT have pets?

Obviously.
Animals are a source of food and nutrition. This is how it has been since the beginning.
People really need to get a grip on reality.

If he or anyone else was hungry enough, I'd bet they'd eat meat to.

[CrossingTheCosmo]

Let me go enjoy this chicken sandwich I just ordered.

[SpaceOddity]

It astonishes me how this moron is the lead singer of THE Smiths. Like, how can a ****** person like him make such splendid music?

[Samuel]

Originally posted by Gotham Aurora

Obviously.
Animals are a source of food and nutrition. This is how it has been since the beginning.
People really need to get a grip on reality.

If he or anyone else was hungry enough, I'd bet they'd eat meat to.

But it's not a matter of life or death is it? Presuming that none of us are living in the wilderness, we don't have to eat meat to stay alive as we have access to a perfectly healthy diet without it. That argument makes no sense.

[Samuel]

Originally posted by Damien M

Lol he's a bit of an idiot, no offense to anyone w similar views.
Anyone with a decent education knows that there are certain classes of proteins only found in flesh that humans need to function. Its Biology 101.

No they don't because it's not true It's absolutely healthy and possible to live a long, healthy life as a vegetarian. There are no proteins in meat that you can't find in other foods.

[Samuel]

Originally posted by Ressti

Guess he should just stop eating altogether, because everything we eat was once alive. Dimwit.

He's making me regret my Smiths collection.

Right, because plants can think, feel pain and have the capability to suffer

[FreeXone]

I can assure if those animals were hungry enough they'd eat you too. Have none of you watched national geographics? Humans are simply predators..its a way of life. Everything dies.

So I will eat my chicken and fish all I want.

And death @ meat carries so many hormones. Do you know how much pesticides and things are in your plants? Most vegetarians don't even do it right and supplemental vitamins still aren't enough compared to real food.

Humans...like most mammals are omivores. We need meat and vegetables. It is nature.