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ATRL: Thoughts on our moderating
Member Since: 1/25/2012
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Why do people HATE on this forum though? Hate is such a strong word, and it's an online forum...
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Member Since: 11/2/2010
Posts: 3,829
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a lot of the mods don't understand anything and give out points bc they have sticks up their asses tbfh
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 2/19/2003
Posts: 34,484
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Well then ATRL would be rather boring wouldn't it  . Even Lipton said him/herself that mods shade too because it will be boring if you guys don't. THEREFORE, how can you guys get to tell the members to stay away from shading and just having a bit of fun when you guys can do it freely ? Not targeting you in particular just talking in general. Anyways yeah I do have a distaste for Gaga but I have also talked about Gaga in a good light as well, I don't just straight out hate her. If the situation is different then I'll even compliment Gaga, but not most of the time. |
You can't use what Lipton said and not respond to what I posted at the bottom of the post. There is a difference between an artist you respect, but don't care for (when shady comments can be made) and an artist you can't stand. Like, I've maybe seen Vin post two - five positive things about Gaga in three years. So why does he keep talking about her?
I ask because these type of posters are the first posters to complain about being unfairly targeted, or the first to SHOUT bias. It just doesn't add up.
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 2/19/2003
Posts: 34,484
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Originally posted by Starships
Also, I'm gonna drop a few names and hopefully I won't offend any mods:
Kworb: Sigh, how to put this...... He's arrogant. He's kinda full of himself too, he feels like he owns us or something. That's how I feel toward shim. 
Ace: He's so disrespectful to be honest, he ALWAYS ignores my questions on the Rate Registiration thread and answers others. I felt so humiliated repeating my question literally 5 times. he replied eventually, 2 weeks later.
Duca: Same as Kworb but to a MUCH lesser extent |
LMAO just imagine Duca as a mod! That would give you kids something to talk about.
And I never meant to disrespect you, Starships. That thread can move very quickly and ideas I'm not interested in slip through the cracks, like your videography idea. I wish, though, if you had these issues, you would have PMed me. There would have been no repercussions - honest.
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Member Since: 3/8/2012
Posts: 39,015
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
You can't use what Lipton said and not respond to what I posted at the bottom of the post. There is a difference between an artist you respect, but don't care for (when shady comments can be made) and an artist you can't stand. Like, I've maybe seen Vin post two - five positive things about Gaga in three years. So why does he keep talking about her?
I ask because these type of posters are the first posters to complain about being unfairly targeted, or the first to SHOUT bias. It just doesn't add up.
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Sorry I actually didn't read that part of your post. Good enough but just because you can stay away doesn't mean everyone will. Anyways I don't see a problem if we talk about an artist we don't particularly like as long as we don't go all out berserk. I know when I should stop and I also know when some things just go too far, unlike some other members on this forum.
Anyways I think some people shout bias (I even did, I'll admit) because we only receive the WP from apparently like one moderator. I think what some people are wondering is whether they would even get a WP for a post if the mod didn't know who made the post and just read the content for what it is. Also I believe some are annoyed because some other moderators would not even warn the post possibly. This is the "bias" I think a lot of members are talking about. Now whether if it is bias is another story.
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 2/19/2003
Posts: 34,484
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One thing that has been bugging me, and maybe it's due to the confusion jinzo was talking about - you guys know that you cannot be abrasive towards popstars, right? You can be dishing out flamebait, you can troll - you can even be insensitive towards a pop star (denigrating a female pop star only because of her gender/calling her a bitch, a ****, a ****, so on and so forth.) You can ONLY be abrasive towards your fellow posters.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
Posts: 53,769
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
One thing that has been bugging me, and maybe it's due to the confusion jinzo was talking about - you guys know that you cannot be abrasive towards popstars, right? You can be dishing out flamebait, you can troll - you can even be insensitive towards a pop star (denigrating a female pop star only because of her gender/calling her a bitch, a ****, a ****, so on and so forth.) You can ONLY be abrasive towards your fellow posters.
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I've seen a lot of mix ups with report reasons, actually - a lot of members just need to reread the rules or to ask for clarification when they need to understand one better.
Y'all can feel free to hit up my wall if you need help with that sort of thing!
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Member Since: 3/8/2012
Posts: 39,015
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
One thing that has been bugging me, and maybe it's due to the confusion jinzo was talking about - you guys know that you cannot be abrasive towards popstars, right? You can be dishing out flamebait, you can troll - you can even be insensitive towards a pop star (denigrating a female pop star only because of her gender/calling her a bitch, a ****, a ****, so on and so forth.) You can ONLY be abrasive towards your fellow posters.
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Abrasive — 1 point, expires in 30 days
Your comment was rude and/or hurtful to other members or staff.
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I'm confused on what draws the line for being abrasive to something like trolling and being insensitive to popstars. What's the difference?
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
Posts: 17,136
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Df you been Ace? This is the most I've seen you post in a while.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
Posts: 53,769
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
I'm confused on what draws the line for being abrasive to something like trolling and being insensitive to popstars. What's the difference?
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Abrasive is reserved for when you insult or deride another member of ATRL, like content that would have been in NHB were it still around. For example, if you just flat out call another member stupid, that would be an "abrasive" post.
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Banned
Member Since: 3/7/2012
Posts: 8,365
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I loved the back to back reminders
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 11/16/2004
Posts: 28,450
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Originally posted by kleinemonster
I loved the back to back reminders
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It must be the Christmas spirit 
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Member Since: 3/8/2012
Posts: 39,015
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Originally posted by Retro
Abrasive is reserved for when you insult or deride another member of ATRL, like content that would have been in NHB were it still around. For example, if you just flat out call another member stupid, that would be an "abrasive" post.
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Now I'm confused to why Ace said we cannot be abrasive to pop stars but we can troll, and be insensitive to them. Don't those result in WPs anyways  Then again its late and I probably should just go to sleep 
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 11/14/2008
Posts: 24,988
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Originally posted by Ryan
Foxay's nice to me because I give her inside information on her favorite TV shows. 
Btw, Niz scenes are coming up soon.  |
Don't play with me bitch! General Hospital got me going through the emotions like I am freaking preggo.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 8,249
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
LMAO just imagine Duca as a mod! That would give you kids something to talk about.
And I never meant to disrespect you, Starships. That thread can move very quickly and ideas I'm not interested in slip through the cracks, like your videography idea. I wish, though, if you had these issues, you would have PMed me. There would have been no repercussions - honest.
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I really have nothing against you lol. I even thanked you on your wall when you answered. 
No hard feelings!
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
Posts: 53,769
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Now I'm confused to why Ace said we cannot be abrasive to pop stars but we can troll, and be insensitive to them. Don't those result in WPs anyways Then again its late and I probably should just go to sleep |
He said it because a lot of members mix them up and report something for abrasive when it should really be warned for flamebait, etc.
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Member Since: 3/8/2012
Posts: 39,015
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Originally posted by Retro
He said it because a lot of members mix them up and report something for abrasive when it should really be warned for flamebait, etc.
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OHHHHHH #enlightened
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 2/19/2003
Posts: 34,484
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Originally posted by Donatella
LET me go dig into the past a biT.
But artist dragging isn't the only problem. Personal attacks have happened, and it wasn't that rare, either. 
But before I go get the tea, why does MrDeeds get away with everything? I remember he said "Bite me, you monkey-faced bitch" to someone or something along the lines of that in a thread, called Alexz "depressingly, embarrassingly fat" in PYP and some other stuff and hasn't been warned for it.  |
Mr. Deeds is banned once every three months. So is Alexz. The people who "get away with everything" really don't. 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 8,249
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
I ask because these type of posters are the first posters to complain about being unfairly targeted, or the first to SHOUT bias. It just doesn't add up.
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This is obviously me you're talking about, but honestly? I hate it when I get warned for something, and then another person does the EXACT same thing (even more obvious) but they don't get warned. This really doesn't add up.
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Member Since: 7/18/2010
Posts: 29,717
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Well, I always seem to get WPs for things that aren't bad at all, and big flamebaits, things I know I will get a WP for, get unnoticed.
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