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Fan Base: Archived: Stand Your Ground (#4)
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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Originally posted by Guero
TF > TFM > ARTPOP > BTW.

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Member Since: 6/15/2012
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Originally posted by Duca
She's doing way less.
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But how?!
Like, if it does 260K and gets a 75% drop, that's 65K. If she does 240K and gets a 75% drop, that's 60K.
Unless her drop will be bigger than 75%, which is just abysmal. 
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Member Since: 8/8/2009
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Originally posted by Duca
Eh, Eh is awful.

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Then we're done here.

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Member Since: 4/15/2011
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This is downfall by design. She fought for creative control and she mostly got what she wanted. She works with a no name producer she discovered for the past two albums, she's not interested in being a single selling force. if she were she'd do what all the girls do and work with the best. It's telling that she worked with Will.i.am and Guetta for album tracks that will NEVER be singles. She doesn't want to overpay these hitmakers, she thinks she can make it without them. That remains to be seen, I think the tour will determine all. If she can do another 100m tour, nothing else matters. If her touring power fades I can't see Interscope pushing another album as hard as they've pushed ARTPOP to these lackluster results.
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Member Since: 9/16/2011
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I would advice Gaga to get a bunch of hit producers but Katy managed to deliver a boring album (her album is quite underperforming for someone at her "peak" as well, it's just that no one bothers to mention her when ForbesGa is flopping) with just that. But then again, Fashion! is the best song on ARTPOP so more David Guetta & will.i.am on the next album please.

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Member Since: 4/22/2009
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Originally posted by Kworb
Pepcé was so well trained and molded by her stage parents, even North Koreans would call it child abuse. There's no talent there, just muscle memory.
It's sad, she never had the chance to discover whether she had a real talent. Faking politeness seems to come naturally to her, maybe she would've been a great waitress or flight attendant.
I guess this is why she is so focused on making money, cause she hates her career, and the money dulls the pain.

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I swear I've said this before on here.
My friend got mad at me the other day because I said she had no talent as a child and she couldn't find a video to prove me wrong.
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Originally posted by Nicole
Dont quote me if your fave lost custody of her children due to abuse, neglect and drug use and KFed, no matter how trashy he is, was deemed a more fit parent.
Also who is Kylie Minogue?
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Did you see who might be starring in Jurassic World? 
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Member Since: 3/30/2009
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Originally posted by Guero
I hope Jessica Biel announces her pregnancy soon.
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Member Since: 11/20/2010
Posts: 29,258
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Originally posted by Jolie's Lips
I would advice Gaga to get a bunch of hit producers but Katy managed to deliver a boring album (her album is quite underperforming for someone at her "peak" as well, it's just that no one bothers to mention her when ForbesGa is flopping) with just that. But then again, Fashion! is the best song on ARTPOP so more David Guetta & will.i.am on the next album please.

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Gaga could only smash with hit producers and a new team if she refrained all creative input and let them do the work.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
Posts: 15,589
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Originally posted by 2AM
ARTPOP was the flop no one was expecting. 
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i think deep down everyone knew she was over, way back in 2011, but then the touring #s had us all fooled
i was expecting unapologetic #s (a respectable flop) globally but the way things are going....
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
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Originally posted by Ozzy8923
But how?!
Like, if it does 260K and gets a 75% drop, that's 65K. If she does 240K and gets a 75% drop, that's 60K.
Unless her drop will be bigger than 75%, which is just abysmal. 
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I think she's doing 230k, and is already #8 on iTunes. The drop will be way bigger than MDNA's.
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Member Since: 3/30/2009
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Whip me slap me, punk funk
New York clubbers, bump drunk
Budlite liquors, bar slam
Move it, this is your jam
Wash the night, with St. J-ameson
Like, a baptism
Heavy metal lovers play
Baby we were born this way

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Member Since: 4/15/2011
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Originally posted by Duca
Whip me slap me, punk funk
New York clubbers, bump drunk
Budlite liquors, bar slam
Move it, this is your jam
Wash the night, with St. J-ameson
Like, a baptism
Heavy metal lovers play
Baby we were born this way

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Stan for the hymn.
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The albums go like this, for those with bad taste, and it's not up for debate.
TFM>BTW>ARTPOP>TF
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Member Since: 10/7/2011
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Originally posted by Damien M
i think deep down everyone knew she was over, way back in 2011, but then the touring #s had us all fooled
i was expecting unapologetic #s (a respectable flop) globally but the way things are going....
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Same. I figured she'd pull typical Rihanna #'s, but ARTPOP will be lucky to scrap 3M WW as of now.
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Member Since: 4/9/2012
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Originally posted by Duca
Four songs better than Janet's discography.

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even birtny would disagree 
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Originally posted by Duca
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You know she'll poke a hole in those condoms.

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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Anyone who puts BTW at the front of Gaga her discography is the reason why she's flopping.
xoxo

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Member Since: 9/16/2011
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Gaga pulling in the highest SNL ratings since JT was a good sign though hihi.
I wonder if 1D's second week will block Britney Jean.

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Member Since: 10/30/2010
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Originally posted by bringhimdowndown
This is downfall by design. She fought for creative control and she mostly got what she wanted. She works with a no name producer she discovered for the past two albums, she's not interested in being a single selling force. if she were she'd do what all the girls do and work with the best. It's telling that she worked with Will.i.am and Guetta for album tracks that will NEVER be singles. She doesn't want to overpay these hitmakers, she thinks she can make it without them. That remains to be seen, I think the tour will determine all. If she can do another 100m tour, nothing else matters. If her touring power fades I can't see Interscope pushing another album as hard as they've pushed ARTPOP to these lackluster results.
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Gaga knows working with "unknown" producers will give her sounds that aren't the same as everyone else and those are the artists/albums that always sell the most (the big hitmakers all work for singles artists), but she doesn't realize that a crappy song that doesn't sound like anything else (and that she probably thinks is so unique) doesn't make it good, lol.
Gaga simply isn't that talented when it comes to producing/creating good pop songs....in full. I don't think any of the other pop girls are either, obviously, but her ego is clearly out of control and she believes she's better than she actually is.
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Member Since: 3/30/2009
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Originally posted by Guero
You know she'll poke a hole in those condoms.

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Never. She put in a lot of work to get that ring.

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Member Since: 6/15/2010
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Originally posted by Duca
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The fact you're keeping track  .
it's gonna happen though Duca.
sskldf Guero beat me to it.
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