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Discussion: Myths about Racism and Privilege
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
then why aren't black girls, who are growing up in these same environments, also being affected like this? Shouldn't the poverty, racism of the war on drugs, etc be affecting them too? Or do black girls all get birthed in middle income families
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it does affect black girls too 
disproportionately because black men are often perceived as threatening or dangerous, but it's not like black girls are not affected
you probably perceive racism in this regard to affect mostly black men because there are more powerful black female figures than black male figures
& because black men are associated with the war on drugs and poverty-related crime -- note that THIS is not unintentional
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I love this discussion and would like to see it more integrated and fleshed out in schools. I only learned about racism briefly in grade 6 when the class read Underground Railroad to Canada. 
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by Eaten By Lions
I love this discussion and would like to see it more integrated and fleshed out in schools. I only learned about racism briefly in grade 6 when the class read Underground Railroad to Canada.
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we talked about slavery & the civil rights movement and then that was it and everything we did we focused on the legal perspective, so it's no wonder so many people think racism is dead!
people act like talking about racism in society today (which is the MOST important to talk about) is enforcing values upon people because modern-day racism is more subtle and less legally-based, but it's not -- it's teaching people what america needs to treat as UNIVERSAL values!
we cannot let racism be ok, or ignorance either
good lord
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Some of y'all.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Originally posted by Samuel
Gays wanting equal rights =/= Tumblr activists wanting to change the definition of a word for no reason. Personalised racism can happen to white people. Just accept it  |
I take it you've never had to write or even heard of a definition essay? The dictionary is just a general guideline. It can accurately describe people, places, and things, but ideas are harder to label. "Racism" (like freedom, justice, and love) is an abstract concept that cannot be appropriately defined in one sentence.
If you're talking about bouts of discrimination and prejudice against whites here and there, then sure, "racism" can occur to whites. But if you're talking about racism in it's fullness, then no. Racism cannot really happen to whites in about 95% of the world.
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This whole argument is pretty American-centric tho. In America, whites can't be denied rights or discriminated against. But what about places like Zimbabwe? Robert Mugabe can be considered racist, no?
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Originally posted by Honey
This whole argument is pretty American-centric tho. In America, whites can't be denied rights or discriminated against. But what about places like Zimbabwe? Robert Mugabe can be considered racist, no? |
Nowhere in the world are Whites legally and socially oppressed on a GRAND scale.
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I mostly agree with the PowerPoint.
I just find it funny that the same people who call Beyoncé an ape in SYG are in here complaining about anti-White racism.
- Anti-White prejudice exists, but it never has and never will result in the systematic disenfranchisement and disadvantaging of the White race; it's impossible Whites control the world (+ they're up here on message boards complaining about the miniscule racism against them. What kinda pre-emptive STRIKE?)
- The Oxford Dictionary is a dictionary and the meanings of words can be changed. I personally feel the "systematic societal oppression" definition of racism is more accurate and more appropriate than the "personal prejudice" definition.
- It is illogical to believe that a person of color changing their attitude about White people will decrease racism because our opinions of Whites were never the problem. WHITE attitudes about US were always the problem, so Whites should change their attitudes (Progress has been made. Hallelujah!), not the other way around.
I can hate you all I want (and I don't hate White people at all. Honest!) You still have the upper hand.
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Oh and I don't think it's right to group all non-whites together as "PoC". Evidently Asians, Blacks, Indians, etc. aren't all in the same boat when it comes to education and job opportunities, financial situations, acceptance by whites, and what not.
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She sounds like a sad person.
Also, if misandry doesn't exist, why it has a wikipedia page you illiterate dumbass?
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
Nowhere in the world are Whites legally and socially oppressed on a GRAND scale.
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I wasn't implying that there's some hidden genocide against whites or something, but the point I was making it that it happens (sometimes) and that not every country is America when it comes to racial hierarchy. White supremacy obviously still exists in many African countries where whites continue to hold most of the wealth and power.
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Uhhhh NO.
Some of this is just warped and twisted. NO.
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
I just find it funny that the same people who call Beyoncé an ape in SYG are in here complaining about anti-White racism.
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Originally posted by Su-Barbie-A
She sounds like a sad person.
Also, if misandry doesn't exist, why it has a wikipedia page you illiterate dumbass?
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Reverse racism, misandry (sexism against men), and heterophobia are all lies made up by straight White men to make people of color, women, and LGBTs shut up.
Rule #1 of successfully oppressing a group of people: Make them think they are not (as) oppressed (as another group). It works. It works. It works.
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Originally posted by Honey
This whole argument is pretty American-centric tho. In America, whites can't be denied rights or discriminated against. But what about places like Zimbabwe? Robert Mugabe can be considered racist, no? |
Plus that’s really dicey, because if you’re talking about Mugabe ousting white farmers, then you have to acknowledge how it came to be that so many whites gained control of the most arable farmlands in the first place. Mugabe's fuqery aside, can you really be mad at dude for taking back and resettling land that was stolen during colonialism?
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
YAS Maya. YAS!
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i'm just getting TIRED of the ignorance
like step your game UP
read a BOOK
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Originally posted by Samuel
That is literally what social justice warriors on Tumblr do  |
The worst thing is that they are pre-teens out there who actually read that bullsh*t and believe all of those fancy words and posts full of hate.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
It is illogical to believe that a person of color changing their attitude about White people will decrease racism because our opinions of Whites were never the problem. WHITE attitudes about US were always the problem, so Whites should change their attitudes (Progress has been made. Hallelujah!), not the other way around.
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yes, but people of color having animosity towards white people is not doing us any favors either
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
Reverse racism, misandry (sexism against men), and heterophobia are all lies made up by straight White men to make people of color, women, and LGBTs shut up.
Rule #1 of successfully oppressing a group of people: Make them think they are not (as) oppressed (as another group). It works. It works. It works.
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misandry isn't a systemic thing but yes it does exist, as do "reverse racism" and to some degree, heterophobia
this post is pretty correct but these ideas do kind of exist just not systemically and largely
and misandry during the 2nd wave of the feminist movement is actually what has cost it a lot of legitimacy today
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
Reverse racism, misandry (sexism against men), and heterophobia are all lies made up by straight White men to make people of color, women, and LGBTs shut up.
Rule #1 of successfully oppressing a group of people: Make them think they are not (as) oppressed (as another group). It works. It works. It works.
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I won't even bother with you.
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
misandry isn't a systemic thing but yes it does exist, as do "reverse racism" and to some degree, heterophobia
this post is pretty correct but these ideas do kind of exist just not systemically and largely
and misandry during the 2nd wave of the feminist movement is actually what has cost it a lot of legitimacy today
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I can even quote this from the wikipedia to prove other feminists agree misandry exists.
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Wendy McElroy, an individualist feminist, wrote in 2001 that some feminists "have redefined the view of the movement of the opposite sex" as "a hot anger toward men seems to have turned into a cold hatred." She argued it was a misandrist position to consider men, as a class, to be irreformable or rapists. McElroy stated "a new ideology has come to the forefront... radical or gender, feminism," one that has "joined hands with [the] political correctness movement that condemns the panorama of western civilization as sexist and racist: the product of 'dead white males'."
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Not that hard to do some research outside Tumblr.
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