[Sammi]

Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts

4 had the best promo too tho. We can't forget that.
She had a Glastonbury set, GMA performance, BET Awards performance, Piers Morgan interview, & MTV documentary that aired in that one week

Constant radio play>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>performances of flop singles public don't care about

And Glastonbury was an UK concert.

[rihannafan]

Alicia is a legend while beyonce is a pop tart. Don't get it twisted.

[Ozzy8923]

Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts

4 had the best promo too tho. We can't forget that.
She had a Glastonbury set, GMA performance, BET Awards performance, Piers Morgan interview, & MTV documentary that aired in that one week

And a Target deal.

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

But Gaga and Britney are not "urban" acts. They are mainly appealing to pop listeners and nothing else. Even when she flops on pop radio, she has that urban cushion to fall back on, like Alicia Keys did with The Element of Freedom.

It's not about "being a star."

That is the large part of why she's compared to the other pop girls, though.

Her image/performance spectacle and the attention they command/public interest they generate have all the trappings of a pop star as we understand it.

[Tuxedo]

I feel sorry for Monsters, it supposed to be Gaga's year...

At least, they can share their feelings with Timberlake's fans...

[Sammi]

Alicia's constant piano whoring fooled everyone into thinking she was better and more talented than the other girls who show their body and shake their asses. I'm glad public came to their senses and dropped that homewrecker.

[Guero]

Does streaming really hold that much weight on the Hot 100?

[Nippy'sReceipts]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

AI finale performance too. Still impressive.

She can definitely still slay, the public interest is there.

I think the AI performance was in May not June but yeah, Beyonce garners alot of public interest. The most impressive thing is that her 4 opening week sales were seen as a huge disappointment at the time. They were her lowest to date. Bday opened with 541k and IASF with 482k. If RTW was a huge hit, that # would prob. be 410k.

[Horus]

Originally posted by Kh-Loud

The rest of the 4th quarter will be Miley's once she starts promoting this.

Nah...

[MaoMars]

Originally posted by Sammi

Alicia's constant piano whoring fooled everyone into thinking she was better and more talented than the other girls who show their body and shake their ass. I'm glad public came to their senses and dropped that homewrecker.

you can try and drag Alicia when Beyoncé is able to write, play and compose a song like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOSv1TIa58M

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

That is the large part of why she's compared to the other pop girls, though.

Her image/performance spectacle and the attention they command/public interest they generate have all the trappings of a pop star as we understand it.

I'm talking about on how she's selling albums and seen as more "credible" than those acts.

I don't really care about how ATRL views her. She's a pop star, but she is one with a lot of urban credibility that will probably keep her around longer or from flopping harder than Britney or Gaga. That's my point. Even with her slight "decline" at the beginning of the B'Day era, it would have been unheard of her doing 260k first week, especially during the 4th quarter. Gaga had a top 5 pop hit (and promos and deals), but will not do 4 numbers first week? I wonder why...

[GeezusHaberdash]

Originally posted by DG1

#46 - Beyoncé - Get Me Bodied (2006)
#64 - Britney Spears - Work Bitch
#76 - Britney Spears - Perfume

yikes

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

Originally posted by ririfan21

Stay is going to get a Grammy. I'm hoping for Record of the year

Hmm, I don't know if it's that good, but it's certainly the only good song best song from her album AND Patti Smith praised it, so it could happen.

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Omg this one?



"And don't forget the robot"

Madonna her seriously legendary impact though.

C'mon people, your faves will never define the look of an entire decade like Her Madgesty.

[BobBertran1992]

Originally posted by MaoMars

you can try and drag Alicia when Beyoncé is able to write, play and compose something like this

Dearie, I just see a blank space, just like your fave's talent, nothing, nothing at all

[Sammi]

Alicia is a hasbeen and I have no intention of having a discussion with Bruna Dion stan.

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by Guero

Does streaming really hold that much weight on the Hot 100?

No. Pour it up had more views, more airplay and more sales and didn't chart after the video. Beyonce obviously paid for the song to chart.

[Samuel]

http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=460548

This is almost as embarrassing as ARTPOP's predictions themselves.

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

Originally posted by Guero

Does streaming really hold that much weight on the Hot 100?

It's getting really ridiculous now, between the weight that's given along with airplay.

They need to bring more emphasis back to sales, paying for a specific song is far more a statement of a song's popularity than playing it on Youtube or Spotify, or some suits in a radio station being paid to play singles.

The chart would be more diverse, faster moving, more competitive and more accurate. ''Get Me Bodied'' was not the 46th most popular song of the week, just like ''Dope'' wasn't the 8th most popular song of the week, etc.

Billboard have lost their minds.

[Cap10Planet]

Yeah, the streaming rules are dumb, but most people don't recognize a song as a hit just because they were in the top 10 or top 40 for a week or two. That was never the case anyway.

[MaoMars]

Originally posted by BobBertran1992

Dearie, I just see a blank space, just like your fave's talent, nothing, nothing at all

who knew some embedding mistakes would get you so defensive?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOSv1TIa58M