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Celeb News: Katy, Rihanna "Singles Oriented Artists," says Billboard
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Originally posted by prollyallmyfault
"oriented" - I don't think he's saying the ladies don't sell albums (they do), but that they sell consistently over the release of many successful singles. They aren't front-loaded is what he's saying. No shade.
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Exactly.
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Originally posted by alrightsir
P!nk? 
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Her first week sales aren't that high, she needs singles to sell her albums. I think that's what they mean.
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The only album to have had any sort of impact as an album itself in the last few years is 21. Most albums' impact comes from the success of the singles. Plus Rihanna, Katy, and definitely P!nk have shown that longevity and smashes >>>> front-loaded sales and modest hits.
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But anyway, this is not good for their legacy. It shows that people are here for their songs, but not really for them. Years down the line when they can't get hit songs anymore and radio is over them, they'll be mostly forgotten.
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Originally posted by Relampago.
And yet they still outsell those so called "album-artists". 
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Interesting
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Originally posted by !Blue!
Well i don't think singles oriented artists are singles artists. I think it only means that the singles don't play a small part in their carreer
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From what I see P!nk doesn't need big hits to sell. JGMAR added a boost but she always stays consistent, mostly because of her tours.
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Why do you guys have to make this out to be such a bad thing? It's not. It's just true tea, no shade. But y'all will hunt for shade in everything, so.
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Yes the do sell singles heavily but they also shift more albums than most people, if this as late 90's/early 00's they'd be selling like crazy. Then they might as well call Britney a singles artist according to her las few eras, and Maroon 5 is a singles artist too then, and same with Bruno according to there theory of "singles artist". The only ones that don't for that mold are Adele and then artists from early 2000's 
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
It means Single sales are their main business, but they can sell millions of albums. So that's ok.
It's better than artists who sell the same amount of albums but can't sell their singles.  |
Actually, I disagree. While ATRL thinks that bigger sales >> everything, I think that if there's a lower singles to album ratio it means that there's more GP interest in the artist, the creations and stuff like that rather than just buying a single because they liked it when they heard it on the radio.
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P!nk's not a singles artist
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So Beyonce is an album artist but her album didn't sell much more than 2.5 million?
Katy is a singles artist when she sold 6 million with her last record?
Yet somehow Beyonce is deemed to be better? How, when she's not successful selling singles nor albums?
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Originally posted by Swine
Actually, I disagree. While ATRL thinks that bigger sales >> everything, I think that if there's a lower singles to album ratio it means that there's more GP interest in the artist, the creations and stuff like that rather than just buying a single because they liked it when they heard it on the radio.
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Except the GP are not stans and they don't care about sales, they only know that TD was huge and lasted for 3 years, and several songs from that album were succesful, that's why TD still charting on the B200 one year after its last single.
Sales > What stans think about those 'Sales'.
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no lies, no lies
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Well, Taylor, Adele and Gaga, have enough power to sell ALBUMS AND SINGLES 
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But let's be real, are frontloaded sales any better than longevity? Frontloaded means that you essentially have a very loyal, although centralized, fanbase.
The longevity that Katy, Rih and P!nk have prove that the GP is here for them, and not a few stans. This isn't shade to anyone in particular, but I cannot see how being a singles oriented artist is a bad thing since that's what they'll be remembered by with the GP anyways.
It'll be a very, very long time before we see anything with the impact of 21 again. But if we were in a different era in time, Teenage Dream would have literally been the next Thriller, lbr.
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If P!nk were a singles artist, her album would stop selling a long time ago, considering JGMAR died a months ago.
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Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
So Beyonce is an album artist but her album didn't sell much more than 2.5 million?
Katy is a singles artist when she sold 6 million with her last record?
Yet somehow Beyonce is deemed to be better? How, when she's not successful selling singles nor albums?
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4 has sold 3 million worldwide without any big hits. Still pushed 310k with a #29 peaking first single. The album before that sold over 7.6 million...so.. Anyway, this has nothing to do with her, stay on topic.
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Originally posted by pinktennisfreak
If P!nk were a singles artist, her album would stop selling a long time ago, considering JGMAR died a months ago.
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True Love is currently Top 10 on HAC.
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Originally posted by SupahBass05
The only album to have had any sort of impact as an album itself in the last few years is 21. Most albums' impact comes from the success of the singles. Plus Rihanna, Katy, and definitely P!nk have shown that longevity and smashes >>>> front-loaded sales and modest hits.
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Which is why I don't understand this fixation ATRL has with "album vs single artists"
- Having high album sales and having high album sales with impact on the industry are two different things. IMO none of the current pop girls have albums that will be revered years from now along the lines of Confessions, Thriller, or 21.
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