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Originally posted by keshaspearsxo
did they make psychic only 1x on grass this gen? i was certain psychic was 2x on grass
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It was never SE against grass.
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Originally posted by AMIT
Espeon's defenses you say? 
Vaporeon got nerfed due to the non-permanent Rain this Gen, Espeon is only used because of it's OP ability, and idek if Sylveon is really viable yet. They are all OU so this is kinda pointless tbh. |
spigpsing
There just hasn't been a nice debate in here 
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Originally posted by !Blue!
Am i the only one who thinks they made the type chart even messier 
nerfing dark types even more, making Ice ypes less usefull, overpowring Ghosts and Fairies as types.
Fairy should have been SE against Ghost instead of Dark, Ice should have been SE against Fairy and Grass should have resisted Fairies |
Weavile getting 6 Weaknesses isn't something I like , its going straight to NU 
Ice types got the biggest screw over this game , since they basically lost their niche.
I think Ghost could have used the little boost though, and Fairy is a good type, but in the end we still only have around 4 viable Fairy Pokemon to use.
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So anybody around here with Pokemon around the 20-25 range want to battle me or something? 
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Originally posted by keshaspearsxo
did they make psychic only 1x on grass this gen? i was certain psychic was 2x on grass
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Psychic has always been 1x against grass. However many grass types are part poison so maybe that's why you've thought that.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by !Blue!
Am i the only one who thinks they made the type chart even messier
nerfing dark types even more, making Ice ypes less usefull, overpowring Ghosts and Fairies as types.
Fairy should have been SE against Ghost instead of Dark, Ice should have been SE against Fairy and Grass should have resisted Fairies |
I think the Ghost/Dark thing is fine as it is. Before this Gen they had essentially the same coverage. Now the only thing that resists Ghost is Dark, so they have been buffed indirectly with that and directly with the Steel issue. Fairy should have more weaknesses though.... I feel like it's a type similar to Water only having 2 weaknesses and good neutral coverage. I agree with the Ice and Grass thing though, they needed a buff desperately. Grass is arguably the worse typing right now. Rock needed a defensive buff well. 
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by DripDrip
spigpsing
There just hasn't been a nice debate in here
Weavile getting 6 Weaknesses isn't something I like , its going straight to NU
Ice types got the biggest screw over this game , since they basically lost their niche.
I think Ghost could have used the little boost though, and Fairy is a good type, but in the end we still only have around 4 viable Fairy Pokemon to use. |
That's why i said types. But Gengar (even without its Mega evo) and Jellicent will be very dangerous now since steel Pokemon lost the resistance and GF will add some stronger fairies later, that's for sure. I just hate that they screwed over 2 of my 3 fave types this gen 
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Originally posted by AMIT
I think the Ghost/Dark thing is fine as it is. Before this Gen they had essentially the same coverage. Now the only thing that resists Ghost is Dark, so they have been buffed indirectly with that and directly with the Steel issue. Fairy should have more weaknesses though.... I feel like it's a type similar to Water only having 2 weaknesses and good neutral coverage. I agree with the Ice and Grass thing though, they needed a buff desperately. Grass is arguably the worse typing right now. Rock needed a defensive buff well. |
True but with fairies and fighting types Dark will have a lot of problems.
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Originally posted by !Blue!
Let's not forget that Espeon is totally outclassed by Mega Absol and Sylveon will definitely not be OU due its lack in the speed and defense department |
+ her abilities are trash.
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I want perma weather back 
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Originally posted by coolcristobal
So anybody around here with Pokemon around the 20-25 range want to battle me or something? |
I would but my lowest are Lvl 38-45 Vaporean, Jolteon, Leafeon, Flareon, and Glaceon. Mess sis, get your levels up. 
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
I would but my lowest are Lvl 38-45 Vaporean, Jolteon, Leafeon, Flareon, and Glaceon. Mess sis, get your levels up. |
dd this is the only time I've been able to play with my 2DS all week for more than 1 hour
I'll get there though
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Originally posted by !Blue!
That's why i said types. But Gengar (even without its Mega evo) and Jellicent will be very dangerous now since steel Pokemon lost the resistance and GF will add some stronger fairies later, that's for sure. I just hate that they screwed over 2 of my 3 fave types this gen
True but with fairies and fighting types Dark will have a lot of problems. |
I don't think so tbh. Ghost got buffed a lot, so people will have to use Dark types to cover them, and now they have an amazing coverage with their STAB only being resisted by 2 types, one that got a nerf this Gen. Tyranitar is even scarier now. And we don't even have many good OU Fairies.
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I just encountered a hoard of Zangooses and Sevipers in Route 8 and they're killing each other for some reason
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Originally posted by !Blue!
That's why i said types. But Gengar (even without its Mega evo) and Jellicent will be very dangerous now since steel Pokemon lost the resistance and GF will add some stronger fairies later, that's for sure. I just hate that they screwed over 2 of my 3 fave types this gen
True but with fairies and fighting types Dark will have a lot of problems. |
Ghost is one of my favorite types, so I don't mind, but Ice is my favorite type and its constant nerfing is annoying.
It really should have been super-effective against Fairy-types, and I don't get why it doesn't resist Water either, yet Water resist Ice-types. Watching Weavile constantly go down the tier list is painful, it went from OU to UU to NU
With all the Genger running around Banette is going to be used just as much which makes me happy, with 164 attack, Shadow Sneak, Pursuit, and Sucker Punch Genger has no chance
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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OMG Corsola's FS has Shuppet. 
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Originally posted by DripDrip
Ghost is one of my favorite types, so I don't mind, but Ice is my favorite type and its constant nerfing is annoying.
It really should have been super-effective against Fairy-types, and I don't get why it doesn't resist Water either, yet Water resist Ice-types. Watching Weavile constantly go down the tier list is painful, it went from OU to UU to NU
With all the Genger running around Banette is going to be used just as much which makes me happy, with 164 attack, Shadow Sneak, Pursuit, and Sucker Punch Genger has no chance |
I feel you, I love Weavile.
It doesn't help Ice types are hammered by Bullet Punch and Mach Punch, the most common priority moves with Ice Shard, they have no chance.
But Weavile may forgo Low Kick since it hits Steels neutral now. Ice Punch / Ice Shard / Night Slash / Pursuit. 
And I'm gonna use the **** out of Mega Bannete.
edit: NOT the first Shuppet I caught being Adamant. 
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FINALLY got X
Playing now It looks so amazing
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Finally added everyone, but only like 3 have added me. 3179-6336-1218 again 
Also I hate my mii
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Anyone have a female Snorunt I can have?
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What starter does everyone have? I picked Fennekin
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