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Discussion: Is Beyoncé a bigger cultural icon than Britney Spears???
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Originally posted by Abyss
Not a chance, none of the major pop girls nowadays will be - Katy, Gaga, Rihanna. They are brief icons of the early 21st century and nothing more. They will have no lasting impact on society and will not transcend their celebrity image like the likes of Marilyn or Audrey. They will be quickly forgotten as the new generation of pop starlets emerge.
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Beyoncé already is in the history books
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Originally posted by abrahamjmr
It's not logic. I've seen plenty of girls who wanted to be like Britney back in 1999-2004 period. You said you never heard of someone who said that wanted be like her. That's what I stated that. Plus, I follow both, Bey and Britney. |
I can give plenty of instances of celebrities dressing up as Britney still, including Beyoncé. Remember when people said the end part of "WB" that pays homage to "HIAM" was stolen from "RTW(G)"  I wonder if they've realized where "RTW(G)" got the outfit yet.
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Yes, Britney is sort of a joke in all fields. Beyoncé is a legend.
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Beyonce - Britney threads should be forbidden. Useless tbh
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Originally posted by swissman
This would be like claiming in 1981 that Diana Ross would be forgotten. I am using analogies because it helps to put things into a context. Things are cyclical. History tends to repeat itself. If you think that Beyonce will be forgotten in a number of years you are wrong. You do not go from being the lead singer of the world's best selling girl-group to a record setting solo star with hit movies, singles, albums, tours, perfumes (basically everything), to marrying a hip-hop legend, to setting twitter records to performing at the iconic Super Bowl to being forgotten.
Please take your hater glasses off and see the light.
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She will be forgotten though. Granted, maybe not in a few years but she won't be remembered or adored after her death like the likes of Audrey and Marilyn. She's done very well for herself, I'm not denying that. And she is currently very successful but she will have no lasting impact. She is a very famous celebrity and nothing more, she is not legendary and the same goes for all the major pop girls today, not just Bey.
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Britney has tons of iconic moments, Beyonce has only one or two.
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i think britney is still bigger from a cultural standpoint.
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Originally posted by Sunshine.
Beyoncé is a feminist icon. And since we're living in a society where feminist ideology is making its way to the forefront, Bey is also a cultural icon. She represents a strength and class many women today work to and hope to emulate. If and when people read back, strong women on top, especially black women, like Oprah, Michelle, and Beyoncé will come to represent the ideals that encompassed our time.
Britney doesn't stand for much. She was a popstar, she was huge, she faded. What has she done/influenced outside of her music? People dance to her songs and then what? She's not even a Marilyn Monroe type, because Marilyn at least represented something. She's more of a Deborah Harry/Pamela Anderson type. A once good -looking famous blonde.
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Originally posted by Ressti
Beyoncé already is in the history books
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Zing! Exactly! Point proven. 
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Originally posted by Shinning
Yes, Britney is sort of a joke in all fields. Beyoncé is a legend.
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Didn't Beyoncé host a special on Britney? What does that make Britney if a "legend," who also opened for her on tour, hosted her special?  Didn't Beyoncé even perform at the end of Britney's MTV special award ceremony?
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Originally posted by Beyy
Beyonce - Britney threads should be forbidden. Useless tbh
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Don't Britney threads usually end in new music?
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100 Pop-Culture Things That Make You a Millennial
Beyoncé and Jay-Z are #1
TIME 100, Bey is listed as an Icon.
Beyoncé is a global brand according to CNN
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"She's gone beyond being a popular singer, even beyond being a pop-cultural icon ... Right now, she is the heir-apparent diva of the USA, the reigning national voice."
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Originally posted by Ressti
Beyoncé already is in the history books
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Yes, because I'm sure people are going to reference that book 100 years from now and discuss Beyoncé's impact on Woman's Equality...
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Originally posted by Abyss
She will be forgotten though. Granted, maybe not in a few years but she won't be remembered or adored after her death like the likes of Audrey and Marilyn. She's done very well for herself, I'm not denying that. And she is currently very successful but she will have no lasting impact. She is a very famous celebrity and nothing more, she is not legendary and the same goes for all the major pop girls today, not just Bey.
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What makes Marilyn or Audrey so different than Beyonce? Beyonce has arguably had 10x more success and influence than either. She has a word in the dictionary, she has lasting impact. Your theory would suggest that in 50 years there is going to be a huge gap in music history, that people will say, "What was popular in the early 2000s?" and everyone will say, "No clue whatsoever." I think most of us can name more than a few big names from the 1950s. It's not as if that time was simply more memorable.
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Originally posted by Abyss
Yes, because I'm sure people are going to reference that book 100 years from now and discuss Beyoncé's impact on Woman's Equality...
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She is a part of the aftermath of the fight for women's rights. She's been very outspoken since the late 90's and been a part of many pro-women campaigns, even starting some herself. She will be discussed. There are college courses on her role as a feminist in the industry.
Just google "Beyoncé feminist". I think you're underestimating her importance.
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Originally posted by Ressti
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Facts everybody already knows for years, now the others still have to accept.
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I honestly think they're about even... for different reasons they're both the biggest of their time.
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Originally posted by Abyss
Yes, because I'm sure people are going to reference that book 100 years from now and discuss Beyoncé's impact on Woman's Equality...
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Of course that's not happening. So they dont' with Britney.
But I'm curious about how history books will look like in the future.
I doubt they will talk about pop girls tbh. Maybe about pop culture in general. More about politics and stuff.
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Originally posted by Abyss
Yes, because I'm sure people are going to reference that book 100 years from now and discuss Beyoncé's impact on Woman's Equality...
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You're always speaking like your word is absolute. The point is, she's in history books NOW. Stop acting like you can see into the future. 
A Contrary-Connie if I've ever seen one.
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Originally posted by Abyss
 Why are you even trying to compare Beyoncé to Marilyn and Audrey. Marilyn and Audrey are icons of the Golden Age of Hollywood, their legacy is timeless, even after death they are still adored and recognized. Beyoncé won't even be remembered by the end of her lifetime. |
You only sound pressed and your opinion doesn't contribute to the discussion.
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