Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (October 2-9, 2013) - Page 22

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Pop Songs
*** No. 1 (4 weeks)*** "Roar" Katy Perry
Greatest Gainer No. 9 "Wrecking Ball" Miley Cyrus
Debut No. 33 "Rough Water" Travie McCoy Featuring Jason Mraz
Debut No. 37 "All Night" Icona Pop
Debut No. 39 "White Walls" Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring ScHoolboy Q & Hollis
Debut No. 40 "Brave" Sara Bareilles

Adult Contemporary
*** No. 1 (1 week)*** "Cups (Pitch Perfect's When I'm Gone)" Anna Kendrick
Greatest Gainer No. 7 "Roar" Katy Perry
Debut No. 28 "Let Her Go" Passenger

Adult Pop Songs
*** No. 1 (3 weeks)*** "Roar" Katy Perry
Greatest Gainer No. 3 "Royals" Lorde
Debut No. 29 "Waiting For Superman" Daughtry
Debut No. 34 "In A World Like This" Backstreet Boys

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Backstreet's back! The group charts its first Adult Pop Songs chart entry since 2007, as "In a World Like This" debuts at No. 34. It's also BSB's best bow, topping the No. 35 start of its highest-peaking hit on the chart, 1999's No. 11-reaching classic "I Want It That Way." The new song is the first single from the reunited boy band's like-titled album, which debuted on the Billboard 200 at No. 5 in August.

Debut No. 39 "Love Me Again" John Newman
Debut No. 40 "365 Days" ZZ Ward

Dance/Club Play Songs
*** No. 1 (1 week)*** "Live For The Night" Krewella
Greatest Gainer No. 2 "Roar" Katy Perry
Debut No. 26 "Work B**ch!" Britney Spears
Debut No. 39 "Wrecking Ball" Miley Cyrus
Debut No. 40 "Royals" Lorde
Debut No. 42 "Feva" Ranny Featuring Deepa Soul
Debut No. 43 "Close To Where You Are" Brooklyn Haley
Debut No. 44 "Atmosphere" Kaskade
Debut No. 46 "Love Is A Bourgeois Construct" Pet Shop Boys
Debut No. 50 "Baby I" Ariana Grande

R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay
*** No. 1 (12 weeks)*** "Blurred Lines" Robin Thicke Featuring T.I. + Pharrell
Greatest Gainer No. 4 "I Luv This Sh*t" August Alsina/Trinidad James
Debut No. 49 "All Hustle, No Luck" Lantana
Debut No. 50 "They Don't Know" Rico Love

Rap Airplay
*** No. 1 (7 weeks)*** "Holy Grail" Jay Z Featuring Justin Timberlake
Greatest Gainer No. 19 "F*ckwithmeyouknowigotit" Jay Z Featuring Rick Ross
Debut No. 25 "23" Mike WiLL Made-It Featuring Miley Cyrus, Wiz Khalifa & Juicy J

Country Airplay
*** No. 1 (1 week)*** "Hey Girl" Billy Currington
Greatest Gainer No. 14 "Carolina" Parmalee
Debut No. 56 "Strong" Will Hoge
Debut No. 57 "Compass" Lady Antebellum
Debut No. 59 "Sober" Little Big Town
Debut No. 60 "Take The Keys" Leah Turner

Rock Airplay
*** No. 1 (7 weeks)*** "Royals" Lorde
Debut/Greatest Gainer No. 32 "Team" Lorde

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As "Royals" returns to No. 1 on Rock Airplay, Lorde's "Team" starts at No. 32, and No. 31 on Alternative Songs (see below). Her new rock radio single, along with "Royals," ushers in her debut full-length album "Pure Heroine," likely due at No. 3 on the Billboard 200 this week. Check Billboard.com Wednesday morning (Oct. 9) for a full rundown of the refreshed chart's top 10.

Debut No. 46 "Battle Born" Five Finger Death Punch

Alternative Songs
*** No. 1 (2 weeks)*** "Out Of My League" Fitz And The Tantrums
Debut/Greatest Gainer No. 31 "Team" Lorde

Latin Airplay
*** No. 1 (3 weeks)*** "Loco" Enrique Iglesias Featuring Romeo Santos
Greatest Gainer No. 12 "Come With Me" Ricky Martin
Debut No. 36 "No Morire" Hector Acosta "El Torito"
Debut No. 43 "Demasiado Bueno" Kany Garcia
Debut No. 50 "Pirata" Yiyo Sarante

Regional Mexican Songs
*** No. 1 (14 weeks)*** "El Ruido de Tus Zapatos" La Arrolladora Banda el Limon de Rene Camacho
Greatest Gainer No. 2 "Ni Que Estuvieras Tan Buena" Calibre 50
Debut No. 33 "Lastima Que Seas Ajena" Pepe Aguilar
Debut No. 36 "Capaz de Todo" Larry Hernandez
Debut No. 38 "La Clika Acelerada" Los Inquietos del Norte
Debut No. 39 "Los Consejos" Banda Rancho Viejo

Latin Pop Songs
*** No. 1 (4 weeks)*** "Loco" Enrique Iglesias Featuring Romeo Santos
Greatest Gainer No. 11 "Que Viva La Vida" Wisin
Debut No. 31 "Wake Me Up!" Avicii
Debut No. 32 "Supa de Caracol - Yupi" Elvis Crespo
Debut No. 37 "Cotorra y Voli" El Cata Featuring Pitbull
Debut No. 39 "Summertime Sadness" Lana Del Rey & Cedric Gervais

Tropical Songs
*** No. 1 (3 weeks)*** "Propuesta Indecente" Romeo Santos
Debut No. 32 "Hey" Toby Love
Debut No. 34 "Que Viva La Vida" Wisin
Debut No. 38 "Ese Es Mi Carino" Norka
Greatest Gainer "Perdi El Control" Renzo

Christian Songs
*** No. 1 (4 weeks)*** "Overcomer" Mandisa
Greatest Gainer No. 8 "The Only Name (Yours Will Be)" Big Daddy Weave
Debut No. 46 "Love Restores" Shine Bright Baby
Debut No. 48 "You Alone" Kutless

Gospel Songs
*** No. 1 (10 weeks)*** "Every Praise" Hezekiah Walker
Debut No. 30 "If God Be For Us" Three Winans Brothers (3WB)
Greatest Gainer "Our God" Micah Stampley

DivaDown

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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2

What? It spent like hardly 2 days in the top 10.

And it barely impacted since it so easily got kicked out all over again. The positions it got to are selling REALLY low. Like GaGa stans so happy about her being #6, yet she is on the edge of below 100k sometime soon.

You not seeing it is your own ignorance and preparation for disappointment, since his predictions were hardly off last week. She may sell a couple thousand, maybe less. Overall point is she isn't selling more than 100,000 to make the top 10 of sales.

And you shouldn't use positions to determine such things. The sales will still move up a lot, but she isn't going to be moving much of anywhere.

I don't think you'll have to sell 100k to be in the Top 10 in sales this week. But I'm fairly certain she'll be Top 10 in sales. Her radio airplay is good. Her streaming will be amazing. "Work Bitch" WILL have more points this week than it's debut week. I know this. I can see it being higher than #12. I pray it doesn't get stuck at #11...

Rico Shameless v2

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Originally posted by DivaDown

I don't think you'll have to sell 100k to be in the Top 10 in sales this week. But I'm fairly certain she'll be Top 10 in sales. Her radio airplay is good. Her streaming will be amazing. "Work Bitch" WILL have more points this week than it's debut week. I know this. I can see it being higher than #12. I pray it doesn't get stuck at #11...

Well obviously it'll definitely have more points than week one, since we'll now have a lot of streaming. But that doesn't guarantee higher placement than the debut week, since points change week to week. It may be even harder to break top ten this week, than say last week. It'll be 100k+ ground for top ten. "Summertime Sadness" was 99k last week, but we'll have "Walking On Air" debuting and pushing her out. "Dark Horse" may be the only one to sell less than 100k. Either way, "Work Bitch" isn't selling 100k+ from last week.

Lana will be the deciding factor most likely, but she has 90m+ radio versus Britney's 33m and they'll probably have around the same streaming since I figure a lot of Britney's ~20 million will be from outside the US.

I hope it does get a top ten peak, because it's not going to be doing any better after this week and I'd rather it just be a top ten single and sell a little more and we move on lol. But I'm not very optimistic just from the numbers.

DivaDown

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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2

Well obviously it'll definitely have more points than week one, since we'll now have a lot of streaming. But that doesn't guarantee higher placement than the debut week, since points change week to week. It may be even harder to break top ten this week, than say last week. It'll be 100k+ ground for top ten. "Summertime Sadness" was 99k last week, but we'll have "Walking On Air" debuting and pushing her out. "Dark Horse" may be the only one to sell less than 100k. Either way, "Work Bitch" isn't selling 100k+ from last week.

Lana will be the deciding factor most likely, but she has 90m+ radio versus Britney's 33m and they'll probably have around the same streaming since I figure a lot of Britney's ~20 million will be from outside the US.

I hope it does get a top ten peak, because it's not going to be doing any better after this week and I'd rather it just be a top ten single and sell a little more and we move on lol. But I'm not very optimistic just from the numbers.

I'm definitely more optimistic because I've seen weirder things happen. Plus, we know (roughly) the Hot 100 formula. Agreed more point doesn't equal a for sure Top 10 but it's on the right track.

And for sales... I'm pretty sure the final 2 spots in the Top 10 will be under 100k. #9 is still iffy. Britney's descend out of the Top 10 was late enough in the week that I'm still fairly certain she'll hold down a spot.

Honestly & truly, it will come down to streaming and I believe it will be enough. Ylvis was able to pull it off with zero radio airplay. I also believe a majority of the video views will be USA. Especially with Las Vegas starting and the video being premiered on the iHeart Radio show.

Am I 100% certain it'll be Top 10 on the Hot 100? Hell no. But the odds are forever in her favor...

Save-Me-Oprah

Dance/Club Play Songs
Debut No. 40 "Royals" Lorde

How

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JosheeMonster

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Originally posted by Save-Me-Oprah

Dance/Club Play Songs
Debut No. 40 "Royals" Lorde

How

Remixes most likely

calm_down

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Originally posted by ARTPØP

Predictions

01. Royals (=)
02. Roar (=)
03. Wrecking Ball (=)
04. Hold On, We're Going Home (=)
05. Wake Me Up! (=)
06. The Fox (+2)
07. Holy Grail (-1)
08. Applause (+1)
09. Blurred Lines (-2)
10. Summertime Sadness (=)

No shade but how many times u predicted blur lines below applause previous weeks but yet still incorrect... This week I still predict blur line above applause...

I'm JAVIng Fun

Royals #1 already

loveforkaty

At least katy getting 5 weeks number 1 on pop

Superiore

WorkB can't go Top 10 with those numbers and won't even pull huge streams. I predicted 4m streams that'll put it around 14-15

Tsuko

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Originally posted by JosheeMonster

Remixes most likely

There was an article about that chart a while ago. It turns out the chart is pretty much nothing to do with club play. Basically a few DJs rank songs and report it to Billboard (and one of the DJs interviewed said they organize amongst themselves to try and get a different song to #1 each week).

ClashAndBurn

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Originally posted by calm_down

No shade but how many times u predicted blur lines below applause previous weeks but yet still incorrect... This week I still predict blur line above applause...

He's predicted Applause over Blurred Lines virtually every week.

Save-Me-Oprah

Debut/Greatest Gainer No. 31 "Team" - Lorde

One hit wonder who?

umich

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Originally posted by Tsuko

There was an article about that chart a while ago. It turns out the chart is pretty much nothing to do with club play. Basically a few DJs rank songs and report it to Billboard (and one of the DJs interviewed said they organize amongst themselves to try and get a different song to #1 each week).

Wait what

What kinda pre-Soundscan/BDS chart rigging teas?

Tsuko

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Originally posted by umichgrad07

Wait what

What kinda pre-Soundscan/BDS chart rigging teas?

Here's the article:

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online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323689204578573981625735410.html

Funky Remix? How to Reach No. 1 on Billboard's DJ Chart
By HANNAH KARP

An unlikely song shot past Daft Punk's monster hit "Get Lucky" to the top of Billboard's "Dance/Club Play" chart last month. Called "People Like Us," it's by pop singer and former "American Idol" winner Kelly Clarkson.

But the same weekend at the Electric Daisy Carnival in Las Vegas—the biggest electronic-dance-music festival in the U.S.—the song doesn't appear to have been played at all, according to fans who transcribed the set lists. And since March, the track has been played by only about 6% of the 1,100 DJs whose music-playing is monitored by research firm POOL Track Trends. It peaked at No. 30 on Billboard's top-40 airplay chart last month and has slipped to No. 31.

The reason for the discrepancy: Billboard's club chart reflects what a panel of 140 small-time DJs report playing most frequently, not what most DJs—or even especially popular, influential ones—actually play.

It's one of the music magazine's few metrics that isn't based on hard data like sales or airplay tallies. Nonetheless, a strong showing can help a song jump to mainstream radio, which can drive sales and ultimately skew sales.

Some DJs who contribute to Billboard's club-music rankings acknowledged in interviews that they often report playing songs when they haven't and coordinate their reports to anoint a particular song No. 1. Some in the industry expressed frustration with the system but said it was nonetheless an important way for artists to gain visibility.

Silvio Pietroluongo, Billboard's director of charts, said the magazine has been looking into other methodologies but hasn't found the perfect way to monitor club play. It instructs its DJ panel to "chart what you play," doesn't allow records to zoom "from zero to 60," and verifies that its DJs are actually performing. But it generally relies on record companies and promoters to "police themselves," he said, adding that "we're trying to make the charts as accurate as possible."

John Strazza, senior vice president of pop promotion at Sony Music Entertainment's RCA Records, Ms. Clarkson's label, said that to appeal to the DJs on Billboard's panel, RCA sought out producers to remix Ms. Clarkson's song in half-a-dozen ways. He said labels typically invest in such remix packages—which executives say can run up to $50,000—to reenergize a song that has been "beaten to death on the radio" or draw attention to a record that hasn't broken through.

"RCA Records make a conscious effort to work that panel aggressively," said Mr. Strazza, who employs an internal team to call and email the Billboard DJs and hires independent promoters to do the same. Topping the club chart is valuable to artists, he said, because the ranking itself can lead to more radio play and licensing deals and land a song on compilation records overseas that can generate handsome royalties.

Tony Ritschard, a DJ in Madison, Wis., who has been on Billboard's panel for the past four years, said he reported playing Ms. Clarkson's song more than any other that week because he liked the lyrics and thought it could use more exposure. But in reality, he said, he probably didn't play it as often as Daft Punk's "Get Lucky." Sometimes, he said, he reports playing songs because he wants to support them but couldn't because the club wasn't sufficiently warmed up.

The music industry still uses Billboard's club chart as a primary measure of a song's club-world success despite an abundance of broader, more accurate data. It is one of more than 80 charts published by Billboard, most of them now based on hard-to-fudge stats like sales, tracked by Nielsen SoundScan; airplay, tracked by Arbitron ARB -0.04% ; and streaming frequency. Billboard is owned by Prometheus Global Media.

Record companies typically pay independent promoters from $1,000 to $10,000 apiece to boost a single on the club chart, according to label executives and promoters, often offering a bonus if the song reaches the top slot. A strong showing can also appease veteran artists when their music lacks sales or airplay momentum.

But such tactics can backfire. Although Mariah Carey's single "Triumphant," released last August, failed to garner significant sales or airplay, it suddenly appeared atop Billboard's club chart in October. The incident drew ridicule from bloggers like Perez Hilton, who wrote: "Congrats oh butterfly Queen!"

A few independent promoters make a living working Billboard's club charts. None of those interviewed for this article said they offered cash payments to DJs to add songs to the playlists they report to Billboard. But they said they offer modest perks such as free passes to concerts, remixes of tracks no other DJs have, and the opportunity to collaborate with bigger artists.

Bobby Shaw, an independent promoter, said he has trouble getting his own free tickets from labels nowadays but still tries to help DJs who report to Billboard get into shows. In April, RCA hired him to help boost Ms. Clarkson's song on the club chart. He said he started getting traction with the magazine's DJ panelists when a remix of the song made by panel member Paulo Gois began circulating.

Mr. Gois, a 47-year-old Los Angeles DJ who said he plays mostly gay events and likes to layer "soaring diva vocals" over tribal beats, wouldn't chart Ms. Clarkson's song at first. He told Mr. Shaw the original track and its official mixes weren't "really playable" at his parties.

But he did agree to create a version with a "more uplifting sound" and gave it to Mr. Shaw, a move he said can get "record labels to say, 'Let's hire him for the next official remix.'"

By last month, Mr. Shaw said he had persuaded 104 of the panel's 140 or so DJs to chart Ms. Clarkson's song among their most played with the help of the unofficial DJ Paulo remix.

Using reports from a small sampling of DJs did make more sense in the days when monitoring what they played was nearly impossible. Nowadays, the software most DJs use to download their music can also record how many times they spin a record.

But even that approach wouldn't be foolproof. Billboard's Mr. Pietroluongo said such data don't necessarily show what time or where a song was played, meaning that "someone could be playing it in their basement."

So the chart is basically meaningless. Some of the DJs used for the chart have admitted record labels pay them to say they played their songs even if they didn't. I go clubbing a lot and I haven't heard most of the #1s in a club before.

JosheeMonster

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Originally posted by Tsuko

There was an article about that chart a while ago. It turns out the chart is pretty much nothing to do with club play. Basically a few DJs rank songs and report it to Billboard (and one of the DJs interviewed said they organize amongst themselves to try and get a different song to #1 each week).

Wow, really? That's interesting

LostInStereo100

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Originally posted by I'm JAVIng Fun

Royals #1 already

Six months after it's been released. Why are you saying "already"? lol

iHype.

Does Hot 100 still count Physical Single Sales?

For example - if Adele released her Lead Single Physically at Target and 200,000 people bought it first week would that count towards Single Sales and Hot 100?

umich

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Originally posted by iHypeMusic

Does Hot 100 still count Physical Single Sales?

For example - if Adele released her Lead Single Physically at Target and 200,000 people bought it first week would that count towards Single Sales and Hot 100?

Physical singles are still counted in the Hot 100. A most recent example is when BTW was able to log a sixth week at #1 and hold off ET.

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What clinches its sustained residence in the Hot 100's penthouse this week, however, is a now-rarely-influential chart component: physical singles sales.

A four-song CD single, featuring the original version of "Born" and three remixes, registered sales of 24,000 in its first full week at retail.

That sales sum is enough to keep "Born" at the Hot 100's apex in a close race with the runner-up, Katy Perry's "E.T.," featuring Kanye West, which pushes 3-2.