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Poll: Bigger impact on culture: Miley or Gaga?
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View Poll Results: Who?
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Stefani Germanotta aka Lady Gaga
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Hannah Montana aka Miley Cyrus
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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Originally posted by FlyOnTheWall
They struggle more and more every day to downgrade Miley's success + career  |
I mean dffff, WHAT do they want?
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Originally posted by pika
This is Gaga circa 2009-2010, what even.  And no, the things you discussed about her videos is what she wore in them. The only performance Gaga has is the 2009 VMAs which was overshadowed by Taylor/Kanye. Nothing about her extended far from her closet. That's why she's old news now, everyone's over the weird girl trick. |
Even if Gaga's influence ended in 2010, she still impacted pop culture more than Miley has. And that is what this thread is about.
Also I didn't really discuss anything about her videos so you can't really claim that what I discussed is about what she wore if I never discussed them.
But Bad Romance for example was highly discussed and it was not for what she wore, but for the video's artistry.
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Originally posted by swissman
Can you explain Hannah Montana's impact though?
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Never Say Never 3D
Part of Me 3D
One Direction This Is US 3D
+ a bunch of Disney shows
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Gaga as of right now. in the long run probably Miley.
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Originally posted by Swine
Does Miley have other memorable things? 
I know Gaga has the VMA 2009, MuchMusic Awards 2009, VMA 2010, BRIT 2010, Monster Ball, Grammys 2011, Born This Way first week, Born This Way Ball, Marry the Night, VMA 2011.
It's Gaga, you'd be surprised how many people actually didn't commit suicide thanks to Gaga and how many people have a Gaga-related tattoo. Gaga is also a reason that homophobia got less among the youth. |
Add: The 'Gaga is transexual' rumors, Express Yourself/Born This Way controversy, the 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Speech, Alejandro and Bad Romance music videos, Joe Calderone
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
And how are you going to compare the impact of someone who came from an immensely popular PG tv show complete with tours, a movie, books, bookbags, lunchboxes, dolls, soundtracks that ran for 5 years every single day to a pop star who worked her way up? You wanna talk cultural impact?
That's a huge asterisk next to Miley's name. And honestly, HM's "impact" is debatable as well. At most I'd say it was a craze like High School Musical. It's memorable, I'll give you that.
How about musical impact instead? That's similar ground. Even a shock value comparison is more easily comparable.  |
Well considering the fact that this thread is about overall impact I think it is only fair to take all career aspects into account. It's still part of her career I don't see why people don't just accept that 
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Originally posted by pika
except Miley's albums sold better outside the states than Hannah's. dffffffff |
No amount of "" emoji's will make you look more credible. Hannah Montana's 5 soundtrack albums, 1 live album, 2 remix albums, and 1 compilation album sold more than Miley's 2 unaffiliated HM ones.
You should know this.
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Originally posted by pika
Are you BLIND? What about this screams Hannah Montana?
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Y r u so mad? 
Let me reiterate: Miley's "reinvention" during CBT was NOTHING spectacular. NOTHING captivating. She was being risque. It does not compare to Miley of 2013. I never said it was similar to HM. I said her transformation THEN was NOT to the extent of the one she went through THIS YEAR thus it did not translate into such success. I said the MINUTE she deviated from HM to a pop star we'd already seen a million times she did not do as well. That's what I said.
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Originally posted by Nicole
Never Say Never 3D
Part of Me 3D
One Direction This Is US 3D
+ a bunch of Disney shows
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Being successful and making other companies (or the same company) take notice and mimic for money has impat only on a business level. Hannah Montanna won't be remembered by anyone for starting a 3D movie trend, even if it did. Impact would mean something about it is iconic, or unforgettable or game changing. Success-copycats doesn't show impact, it shows success. Especially when the link between one and the next is just the fact that it's a movie and 3D.
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Miley. Gaga's impact is usually only prominent around like Halloween
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Miley's iMpaCt has only just began. She has a whole era ahead of her and she's already had like almost Britney-sized iMpaCt. Can't imagine what the rest of the Bangerz era will bring 
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Originally posted by GlitterfiedCyrus
Well considering the fact that this thread is about overall impact
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Thread: Poll: Bigger impact on culture: Miley or Gaga?
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And no amount of your denying will compare with Billboard confirming that Miley has sold more albums than Hannah. Miley's album peaks WW are also better than Hannah's who's only really successful soundtracks was the first one and the movie, look it up. Billboard > your opinion. End of the story.
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She was being risque. It does not compare to Miley of 2013
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Miley turned off the same buyers with WCS like she did with CBT. If she didn't sell from it then, she isn't selling from it now. Miley's music and promotion has been a lot better this era, that's why she's succeeding. Clutch and cling to that Hannah logic all you want, but common sense says if it didn't help you back then, it won't help you now. Get over it.
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
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Point is, Hannah Montana should still be counted 
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Originally posted by pika
And no amount of your denying will compare with Billboard confirming that Miley has sold more albums than Hannah. Miley's album peaks WW are also better than Hannah's who's only really successful soundtracks was the first one and the movie, look it up. Billboard > your opinion. End of the story.
Miley turned off the same buyers with WCS like she did with CBT. If she didn't sell from it then, she isn't selling from it now. Miley's music and promotion has been a lot better this era, that's why she's succeeding. Clutch and cling to that Hannah logic all you want, but common sense says if it didn't help you back then, it won't help you now. Get over it.
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Do I also have to reiterate that BILLBOARD is US sales only? But yes continue to argue that those 2 albums outsold the 9 I pointed out.
& Common sense also says Miley's transformation in 2013 generated way more media coverage than whatever the hell she was pulling during CBT thus generating more success. Coupled with the fact that her music this year is much better.
But continue to live in denial if it helps you sleep better. 
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Originally posted by GlitterfiedCyrus
Point is, Hannah Montana should still be counted |
Can we do a bigger impact on culture, High School Musical vs. Rihanna next? 
Maybe Kesha vs. Full House?
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Are we really comparing the children to Miley? Gaga has nothing on her 8 year career. Everyone and their mothers know Hannah Montana, and now everyone and their mothers know of Twerkley.
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Do I also have to reiterate that BILLBOARD is US sales only? But yes continue to argue that those 2 albums outsold the 8 I pointed out.
& Common sense also says Miley's transformation in 2013 generated way more media coverage than whatever the hell she was pulling during CBT thus generating more success. Coupled with the fact that her music this year is much better.
But continue to live in denial if it helps you sleep better. |
And yet I have pointed out that Miley's WW peaks are better than Hannah's. I'm a damn Miley stan for gods sake and you're trying to argue with me about her sales. For the last time, Miley was more global, we don't have exact figures for her worldwide sales, but she sold better inside and outside the states than Hannah. If you have a problem, go find the receipts for yourself.
Miley caused controversy in Can't Be Tamed, Miley caused controversy in Bangerz. Like you said, the music is better and more accessible now which is why she's succeeding. It all comes down to the music in the end. Your logic of her still relying on Hannah is a far-cry reach since everyone said "the second she ditched Hannah she faded." I'm done entertaining your delusional, bothered & overly biased argument. Goodnight.
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I said INCLUDED as part of her career not just comparing it to Gaga 
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Originally posted by pika
And yet I have pointed out that Miley's WW peaks are better than Hannah's
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woo that font.
But n0pe Hannah her 9 albums charting in more places remain unbothered.
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Originally posted by pika
Miley was more global
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dd Goodnight.
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Originally posted by GlitterfiedCyrus
I said INCLUDED as part of her career not just comparing it to Gaga |
Sooooo...Buffy The Vampire Slayer vs. Katy?
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