[Vato]

3 words: Cater 2 U.

There's your answer.

[XXXO]

Never been and never will. Beyhive her boriness.

[swissman]

Originally posted by VilsonMuqa

What did she do to earn that title?


Madonna's revolution looks interesting. I think it still belongs to her

Madonna is another great option to this question. Although not as vocal lyrically about it as Beyonce, Madonna through her image and career moves is a feminist icon.

[VilsonMuqa]

Originally posted by swissman

Madonna is another great option to this question. Although not as vocal lyrically about it as Beyonce, Madonna through her image and career moves is a feminist icon.

Aah u guys mean vocally?

If so yed that belongs to Queen B!

[swissman]

Originally posted by Vato

3 words: Cater 2 U.

There's your answer.

Right. A true feminist could never be in love and have such a good man that she wants to sometimes cater to his every desire. She must at all costs avoid showing him any kindness, respect, or anything else that would imply that she is doing him a service.

I can't find the video but there is one where she explains that this song is about catering to a man ONLY when he deserves it.

[chris1991]

No.

[swissman]

Originally posted by VilsonMuqa

Aah u guys mean vocally?

If so yed that belongs to Queen B!

I don't think it needs to be vocally, I just mean that because of Beyonce's many songs about female empowerment she is more vocal about it, whereas Madonna just does it.

[Cain]

I think she's the biggest feminist MUSICIAN, not the biggest icon overall.

[Haunter]

Alanis Morisette is.

/End Thread.

[cats&fashion]

Is my fellow beyhive for real?
No, she's a feminist, but the biggest one of our generation?!
wait, biggest as in fame-wise, or biggest as in the advocacy itself?

[Gangsta4alife]

Originally posted by rihannafan

Nope. Just siningg female empowerment anthems doesn't make her a feminist anyway. Her image is that she's very submissive to Jay-Z. She even named her tour " The Mrs Carter show".

Not really and how is her image submissive the power of feminism is having a choice to do what you want. Just because your feminist doesn't mean every song needs to reflect, F men. There is nothing wrong with being pampered or loving being a wife/mother.

Originally posted by swissman

Right. A true feminist could never be in love and have such a good man that she wants to sometimes cater to his every desire. She must at all costs avoid showing him any kindness, respect, or anything else that would imply that she is doing him a service.

I can't find the video but there is one where she explains that this song is about catering to a man ONLY when he deserves it.

Let em know there ain't been nothing wrong with that song nor is it a contradiction. I wouldn't say Bey is the biggest feminist but she is one of them

[VilsonMuqa]

Originally posted by swissman

I don't think it needs to be vocally, I just mean that because of Beyonce's many songs about female empowerment she is more vocal about it, whereas Madonna just does it.

Hhahaha sorry yeah i meant that!


Cha nöt so guet english xD

[Reza]

The hell? No! any true feminist would be appalled by Beyonce and what she does! Especially using her body for pleasing people by bouncing her ass up and down!

[swissman]

Originally posted by Reza

The hell? No! any true feminist would be appalled by Beyonce and what she does! Especially using her body for pleasing people by bouncing her ass up and down!

And if a man did the same, is he an anti-masculist? No. It's a body. She can do whatever she wants with it, not to mention (although I already have) her demographic is WOMEN and GAY MEN. Shaking her butt up and down is for entertainment purposes not for serving the men of the world.

Basically, Arnold Schwarzenegger has made a career off his body. Why is it a problem if Beyonce shows her's off too?

[Gangsta4alife]

Originally posted by Reza

The hell? No! any true feminist would be appalled by Beyonce and what she does! Especially using her body for pleasing people by bouncing her ass up and down!

I'm just convinced many people in this thread have a true grasp of what feminism is. How is taking control of your sexuality and flaunting your body appalling to feminism. That's the whole point of the term is for women to take control of their own bodies and if they want to put on display, be a mother, or just say F men in general they have the option to.

[Alexz]

Originally posted by Alvajay

fem·i·nism
1. the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.

In what way shape or form, is calling her tour the Mrs.Carter Show (which is her last name) a contradiction to her empowerment for women, she can be proud of her relationship and be a good mother and wife (and proud) and be a feminist.

Her last name is Knowles.

[VilsonMuqa]

Originally posted by Alexz

Her last name is Knowles.

Omg i've read that so funny & strange with a swiss accent like "Knoooowuuläss"
Sorry! :dead:

[Reza]

Originally posted by swissman

And if a man did the same, is he an anti-masculist? No. It's a body. She can do whatever she wants with it, not to mention (although I already have) her demographic is WOMEN and GAY MEN. Shaking her butt up and down is for entertainment purposes not for serving the men of the world.

Basically, Arnold Schwarzenegger has made a career off his body. Why is it a problem if Beyonce shows her's off too?

Because Arnold Schwarzenegger is not a feminist and what the hell is a masculist?

I have NO problem with what Beyonce does but i do have a problem with people thinking that she is an iconic feminist. in fact it's an insult to the feminist movement to call her one.

[brandensuxx]

I wouldn't say feminism, I'd say girlpower

[princedonte]

I wish she wasn't I love women but I hate feminist. It seems like there trying to take men out the family.