I don't know anything about Beyonces music because I have listened to none of it besides a couple singles so I probably shouldn't have made that assumption
But things like 'funk influenced' and 'hip hop influenced' really fall under the umbrella of R&B. they aren't much different from each other so you can't claim its a completely different genre
No, Funk is not R&B Suga Mama does not sound like Flaws and All and Diva does not sound like Resentment.
You're probably the only one that has actually discussed her diversity rather than just saying 'No' so thanks
And I do agree her voice sounds the same in a lot of songs but in terms of the production most of her songs sound completely different. From the Latin influences of Te Amo to the EDM of We Found Love to the Reggae of Man Down and the Urban influences of Pour It Up to the Dubstep of G4L, you can really see how far she goes with the music and the choice of producers or writers
And by making music that sounds so sonically different, she reaches a wide range of music listeners.
I totally agree that her catalogue is extremely versatile and I think it's great that her voice is flexible enough that it can sound good on most sounds. That is a testament to the Rihanna-tone. She may not have the vocals that reach the heavens but she certainly sounds pleasing to the ears.
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That's all R&B though
It is all R&B but those are sub-genres. You don't sing the same way you would on an Old-School R&B song from the 1960s as you would in one from 2000 or even 2013. It'd be like saying that the same skills are required of you to sing a pop song from 1960 and onwards.
Beyonce definitely has explored many genres, but I think she's not seen as diverse, because her R&B/urban material takes up an overwhelming percentage of her material. And most of her genre exploration took place on one album.
Anyway we see it, Rihanna has never been a one-dimensional artist. I mean she's not afraid tp release a different genre to the public. She has S and M, CKB, Man Down and Cheers altogether on radio, they're all different, WFL came and different once again.
Some artists tried to hype their materials by claiming it's different yet they disappoint when the song got released.
At least you didn't try to sound pressed about the issue. It's just a matter of yes or no. Yes, this is your opinion, but rmember one thing, you know nothing, youre not there during the album conception neither when she is recording so you know nothing about her artistry (and I thought you believed she doesnt have any so let's not get deep into that).
It's just that her voice is easily recognizable. But she has different attacks to her songs, OG and WFL clearly shows different tone, so is Hard and WMN. She doesn't use the same deliveru again and again compare to others. Listen to Loud and you'll know how diverse her voice when it comes to singing them (bar OG and sandm), her deliveries are far from being the same with each song.
Sure, I do know nothing. I know as much as you do about her process. It's not hard to look up those demos and see how much she changes from demo to final product though. I didn't mean to say that her delivery and whatnot did not change per song. Of course some songs need more gusto and some are more quiet and held-back. But the voice doesn't change as much to me in regards to how she uses it and manipulates it. Basically she doesn't transform her voice as much as an artist I'd consider diverse should.
Beyonce definitely has explored many genres, but I think she's not seen as diverse, because her R&B/urban material takes up an overwhelming percentage of her material. And most of her genre exploration took place on one album.
I wouldn't call Beyonce a diverse artist either, although she does have the receipts and skills of diversity. That is just not what she chooses to present herself as though.
PS: I predict a certain fan base will come here to say that Rihanna needed 10,000 producers to have all this genre. FYI, any artist can do that yet not everyone can suit their voice to any genre.
Her voice sounds the absolute same on all of her songs, so shes not vocally diverse (if that's hat you're saying). I guess musically shes tried out a few genres, but most diverse artist of our generation? No.
Rihanna IS diverse as hell that's probably why the GP loves her and one of the reasons why I really enjoy her music as well, as far as being more diverse then bey I would tend to agree but then again bey has Grown Woman and STOTS and Bow Down and all those 3 are pretty diverse, but as of right now I do believe Rihanna is more diverse
the only person I can think of as being more diverse then her is Xtina, I'm not gonna go get her discrography, but I'm sure if someone did it would deffinetly be up there with Rihanna
Sure, I do know nothing. I know as much as you do about her process. It's not hard to look up those demos and see how much she changes from demo to final product though. I didn't mean to say that her delivery and whatnot did not change per song. Of course some songs need more gusto and some are more quiet and held-back. But the voice doesn't change as much to me in regards to how she uses it and manipulates it. Basically she doesn't transform her voice as much as an artist I'd consider diverse should.
The same can be said about Beyonce and her delivery, I have IASF, 4 and most of BDays song but I found her voice also havin the same tone and register (bar I Miss Yoi and her upbeat songs, the ones that are really fast).
Within the pop genre she's certainly up there. On the wider spectrum, a lot of the time it's easy to see it coming off as a pastiche. It's nothing to be sniffed at though.
The same can be said about Beyonce and her delivery, I have IASF, 4 and most of BDays song but I found her voice also havin the same tone and register (bar I Miss Yoi and her upbeat songs, the ones that are really fast).
That's because 4 is an R&B album, and a cohesive one at that.
Beyonce's does manipulate her voice as needed when she is doing a different genre, as shown in this Spanish song (not only is she singing in Spanish but she is singing in a Spanish style).
Her voice sounds the absolute same on all of her songs, so shes not vocally diverse (if that's hat you're saying). I guess musically shes tried out a few genres, but most diverse artist of our generation? No.
The vocals in Man Down or Te Amo or Diamonds sound exactly like the vocals on Stay?
Beyonce definitely has explored many genres, but I think she's not seen as diverse, because her R&B/urban material takes up an overwhelming percentage of her material. And most of her genre exploration took place on one album.
And then she retreated back into her comfort zone with 4
Beyonce definitely has explored many genres, but I think she's not seen as diverse, because her R&B/urban material takes up an overwhelming percentage of her material. And most of her genre exploration took place on one album.
Most of her music is R&B/Hip Hop/Funk/Soul. No question. But she's never been safe. I can't really compare her to other R&B artists, because her style is pretty unique.
Suga Mama does not sound like Flaws and All and Diva does not sound like Resentment.
The song is R&B + Jazz.