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Tech: Smartphone Discussion
Member Since: 6/15/2012
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Originally posted by Sunshine.
Yesss gurls. Stan for Windows Phone. Convert all the nonbelievers.
I know I'm a traitor for jumping ship, but all I want is for WP to succeed. I just don't want to be their guinea pig anymore. 3 years w/ MS and the struggle for apps and support has been REAL. I wish y'all the best of luck.
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Exactly how I feel.
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Member Since: 6/15/2012
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Apple and Innovation: Patience Is a Virtue
By Anna Scantlin of Phonedog
Innovation. This word happens to be one of our favorite words here in the mobile industry. We can probably thank the late Steve Jobs for that, for it was his company that really started the whole "innovative" smartphone evolution back in 2007 with the introduction of the notorious Apple iPhone. Although a great word, it seems as if innovation has lost its word value over just a few short years. Although smartphone manufacturers and platforms are always seemingly pumping out new "innovative" technology, to me, it almost seems as if it has lost the magic I once associated with the word.
What I mean by that is that the word just seems to have very little effect on how I see phones anymore. Somebody throws the word "innovation" out during an event and I no longer become phased, or even very interested. Why is that? Is it because the phrase has become so overused, or is it because companies are trying to innovate so quickly that the end product really isn't that innovating at all? Perhaps it is our own fault for putting too much investment in the word in the first place, and always expecting to see great things when it is used to describe a feature or a product. We're like excited dogs who hear the word "ride", but come to find out that the "ride" is only a ride to the vet. It's not that whoever is using the word is wrong, it's that we've been expecting too much when we hear it.
It's been about a year since learning about the iPhone 5, which was possibly the most bland thing I've seen come from Apple in a long time. I can't lie, I was disappointed, but it probably wasn't because of the actual device itself. The iPhone 3G was great, the iPhone 4 was great, and I expected the iPhone 5 to be great as well, but how long can essentially the same product in a new shell be considered "innovating"? If Apple plans on doing anything like in previous years, if you weren't impressed with the iPhone 5, you're probably not going to want to keep your fingers crossed for the iPhone 5S. Even then, the iPhone 5 isn't doing badly in sales - it's just the first time we have seen a real decline in interest for the phone. But every manufactuer has had their fair share of less-than-stellar phones; Apple was bound to hit a wall sooner or later, and it even seems that Apple themselves have caught on to it.
According to a report from Cult of Mac, Charlie Gasparino, a Fox Business News correspondent, has recently reported that "reliable sources" tell him that Apple's own board is pushing Tim Cook to innovate, and innovate quickly. If said reliable sources are speaking the truth, perhaps the worry that Apple is in a decline isn't just a consumer thing; maybe it's not all in our heads. But at the same time, how does one just "innovate" quickly on the fly?
It's true that, for the moment, Apple isn't in any real danger of falling to the ranks of companies like BlackBerry (sorry to throw you under the bus like that, old friend, but you're the perfect example) any time soon. However, it is worth noting that Windows Phone seems to be becoming more popular. While I'm not saying that Apple should pull the ol' Hare and Tortoise and take a nap, they do have some time to really create something great if they wanted to. They don't have to innovate quickly, they just need to come up with something awesome, and for that to happen it's likely going to take more a lot more time than we have grown accustomed to giving.
The iMac was first introduced in 1998. The iPod was first introduced in 2002. The iPhone and iPod Touch were introduced in 2007. The iPad was in 2010. These very successful product lines took years to create. There was even a 5-year gap between the iPod and the iPhone, and it's only been 3 years since the introduction of the iPad. So why are we being so impatient with Apple?
I think it's because the competition responded so aggressively. Just look at Android. The very first Android device was released in 2008, a whole year after the iPhone, and already just 5 years later many of Android's smartphones are at least comparable, if not more powerful than the latest iPhone. They come in more sizes, shapes and colors than iProducts do, and made by several different manufacturers with different types of materials, not to mention generally more affordable. Android is also right on par with the amount of applications it offers in its app store compared to iOS. If you look at a comparison between how Android was when it first started compared to now, and how iOS started out compared to now, you may be surprised to see just how many changes were made in Android for both hardware and software. You may also be surprised at how stagnant iOS has been on the iPhone.
Even with iOS 7 coming, the iPhone, for the most part, remains the same with a few extra goodies. It seems that Android's rapid changes and improvements have skewed our perception of how innovation should work. Sure, you can call Smart View and Smart Pause innovative, because they are. But when it comes to Apple trying to climb back to the top, are small innovations like Smart View or Smart Pause going to work? Probably not. Samsung has a lot more going for it than just its flagship mobile devices, but Apple only has itself. If Apple wants to take the spotlight back from Samsung, they're going to have to do something really innovative. I would much rather wait longer to see what Apple can come up with in time instead of pressuring Cook to come up with something now. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but you're probably going to see better results if you take a longer amount of time to come up with something spectacular that works rather than a half-concocted idea that sometimes works.
Apple just needs to take the time to remind us what innovation meant to us 6 years ago.
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And this is exactly why I'm not upgrading to an iPhone.
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Originally posted by Smartypants
And this is exactly why I'm not upgrading to an iPhone.
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"It's been about a year since learning about the iPhone 5, which was possibly the most bland thing I've seen come from Apple in a long time. I can't lie, I was disappointed, but it probably wasn't because of the actual device itself. The iPhone 3G was great, the iPhone 4 was great, and I expected the iPhone 5 to be great as well, but how long can essentially the same product in a new shell be considered "innovating"?"
??? The iPhone 3G and the iPhone 4 upgrades from their last revisions wouldnt be called innovating in yall's eyes if it happened today so why is she saying this just for the sake of her article? The iPhone 3G added plastic to its back. The 4 added glass and the 5 added aluminum but apparently those upgrades were so ~~~~~!!!!nov@tiv3~~~~~~.
Please.
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Member Since: 8/2/2012
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I totally forgot about taking pictures
But I see the good sis Oprah has it covered

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I hope Windows Phone 8 will be eligible for the WP Blue update.
Not here for being left in the dust.
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Member Since: 9/10/2012
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Originally posted by Ares
I hope Windows Phone 8 will be eligible for the WP Blue update.
Not here for being left in the dust.
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They've already confirmed that you'll be eligible, except don't expect it this year. Windows 8.1 releases at the end of October. GRD3 for Windows phones will be releasing around October/November, and then Windows Phone 8.1 releases early 2014.
Mid-2014, if they stick to their previously announced timeline, Windows Phone 8 support will end, and they will continue with 8.1. Everyone with a Windows 8 Phone can upgrade.
And then after that, I don't care what they do because I'll be due for another phone anyway, haha.
... I almost find it hard to believe too, but they're desperate to rebuild consumer confidence so I am certain that they won't ditch the phone users again.
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Member Since: 9/3/2012
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Originally posted by Ares
I hope Windows Phone 8 will be eligible for the WP Blue update.
Not here for being left in the dust.
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The only reason WP7 phones weren't able to be upgraded to WP8 is because WP8 was built around a completely different, more efficient and modern architecture that wasn't compatible with WP7 hardware.
It'd be like a Samsung Galaxy S4 upgrading to run iOS. Just cannot happen.

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Member Since: 3/10/2011
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I really want a Windows phone, as weird as it sounds. I heard they are really good.
But I want a Nokia Lumia (or better yet, to get one for my mother since she loves taking pictures with her...blackberry) and Verizon doesn't carry it 
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by ♥CEB♥
I really want a Windows phone, as weird as it sounds. I heard they are really good.
But I want a Nokia Lumia (or better yet, to get one for my mother since she loves taking pictures with her...blackberry) and Verizon doesn't carry it 
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Verizon has the exclusive 928 with xenon flash
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Originally posted by ♥CEB♥
I really want a Windows phone, as weird as it sounds. I heard they are really good.
But I want a Nokia Lumia (or better yet, to get one for my mother since she loves taking pictures with her...blackberry) and Verizon doesn't carry it 
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Excuse you? Yes they do!
Verizon has the Lumia 928, which is their exclusive variant of the Lumia 920/925 with a slightly upgraded camera and legit Xenon flash.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/d...umia-928-white
They also have the more affordable Lumia 822.
Don't let Verizon be your excuse bb.

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Member Since: 3/10/2011
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Well, exCUSE me.
I was actually referring to the 1020 but this looks nice too.
Let me check it out.

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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by ♥CEB♥
Well, exCUSE me.
I was actually referring to the 1020 but this looks nice too.
Let me check it out.

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It's free on a 2-year contract.
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Member Since: 9/10/2012
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WHO HAS A 920 RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THE NEW UPDATE: Is anyone seeing Nokia Pro Cam & Nokia Smart Cam & Nokia Video Trimmer showing up in the Store? Because it keeps popping up and disappearing for me... tempted to install but worried about lockups because I thought this was only for people with GRD2??? Its not blocking me from the install... I just do not need my phone to brick right now though, so I'm waiting for someone else to try it...
... and in random other news, Forbes & Bloomberg have declared Nokia the likely low-end cellphone segment king. Blackberry, Apple, Samsung and HTC can't really compete in the low-end segment, and Nokia's Lumia 520 is already dominating many markets. This is very important when you take into account that low/mid end dominate the many markets without subsidized phones.
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Member Since: 6/15/2012
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Hey everyone! I finally got my HTC One, and I must say, I love it! It's so beautiful, and it runs super smooth! I never thought I would say so, but I actually love Android! Coming from a Windows Phone, it feels great to be able to heavily customize my phone and have access to the most popular apps. And everything looks beautiful on the bright and vivid 4.7 inch screen of my One. I really couldn't have chosen a better phone for myself!
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Member Since: 9/10/2012
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Originally posted by Smartypants
Hey everyone! I finally got my HTC One, and I must say, I love it! It's so beautiful, and it runs super smooth! I never thought I would say so, but I actually love Android! Coming from a Windows Phone, it feels great to be able to heavily customize my phone and have access to the most popular apps. And everything looks beautiful on the bright and vivid 4.7 inch screen of my One. I really couldn't have chosen a better phone for myself!
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That is such a beautiful phone, great choice!
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Member Since: 8/2/2008
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Originally posted by Smartypants
Hey everyone! I finally got my HTC One, and I must say, I love it! It's so beautiful, and it runs super smooth! I never thought I would say so, but I actually love Android! Coming from a Windows Phone, it feels great to be able to heavily customize my phone and have access to the most popular apps. And everything looks beautiful on the bright and vivid 4.7 inch screen of my One. I really couldn't have chosen a better phone for myself!
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Welcome to the club. 
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Member Since: 6/15/2012
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Originally posted by missy
That is such a beautiful phone, great choice!
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Originally posted by eteru
Welcome to the club. 
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Thanks guys! And even though I've pretty much got the hang of it now, I'm sure there's plenty more that I haven't yet discovered about my phone! This is a HUGE phone stepup!
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Member Since: 10/7/2011
Posts: 6,081
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Originally posted by Smartypants
Thanks guys! And even though I've pretty much got the hang of it now, I'm sure there's plenty more that I haven't yet discovered about my phone! This is a HUGE phone stepup!
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YASSSS, this is best phone ever. right sis
I've had it since May when it got released on T-mobile.
Definitely the best android phone out right now . 
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Member Since: 6/15/2012
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Originally posted by RiRi_Xtina15
YASSSS, this is best phone ever. right sis
I've had it since May when it got released on T-mobile.
Definitely the best android phone out right now . 
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I know! But it's so hard explaining this to people who ask what phone I have! So many people stop listening after I say HTC.  But I survive knowing I have a better phone than them anyway. 
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Right now I have the Note II. First phone ever where I don't want to switch every time a new phone comes out. The screen size is everything and the S Pen+ S Pen apps makes it superior (to me). The only thing I don't like is how Verizon crippled the device by removing/ changing features, and putting their damn logo on the home button  . The Note III is suppose to be revealed next month, and hopefully Samsung Verizon isn't slow when it comes to incorporating the features from the Note III to the Note II. My next phone will probably be the Note IV (if it comes out the same time next year).
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