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Poll: Is Perry now the next Madonna?
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View Poll Results: Who will be seen as the next Madonna in 30 years time?
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Katy Perry
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21.32% |
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Lady Gaga
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49 |
24.87% |
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Beyonce
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4 |
2.03% |
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Rihanna
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18.78% |
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Kelly Clarkson
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2.54% |
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No one will ever be as iconic
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I don't think any of them will ever achieve enough to deserve such honor. Not even Gaga; she would reach such success but not in 30 years, probs 40 but that's too late for her now.
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Now, now..Just because Katy currently has a global number one and other's don't, let's not get TOO ahead of ourselves.
Katy isn't anywhere near being Madonna's successor.
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
Madonna took a lot of risks both musically and artistically.
So the answer would be a resounding no.
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I Kissed a Girl was risky & so was her 3D movie. ET was also a risk and a resounding win
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No one will ever be as iconic.
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Never. But she is Brave enough to try
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Lemme go and boost Kelly by one more vote. 
Reality is that none will achieve the same level of success as her since she grew up in a different time with different circumstances.
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Originally posted by U4EA
Madonna will never have a successor. Someone could sell twice as many records and maintain a celebrated career for twice as long and they still wouldn't hold a candle to her. Madonna is held in such high regard not so much because of her incredible success but because of her unparalleled impact.
You simply can't compare female artists post-Madonna to the woman herself because they all have the luxury of having had Madonna (and others, of course) come before them to make the world a much safer place. She is the blueprint and will never be replaced -- or even rivaled, for that matter.
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What a nice post 
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The thread title is asking a different question than the poll question.
To be Madonna, you'd have to have a hit in 3 consecutive decades (or 4 considering how you label MDNA ).
The only girls in the poll I can see having some sort of career 30 years in are Bey, Kelly & Gaga. By that logic its one of them & Beyoncé, as usual, is closest  . But I highly doubt anyone will be close to Madonna's iconic status.
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Originally posted by U4EA
Madonna will never have a successor. Someone could sell twice as many records and maintain a celebrated career for twice as long and they still wouldn't hold a candle to her. Madonna is held in such high regard not so much because of her incredible success but because of her unparalleled impact.
You simply can't compare female artists post-Madonna to the woman herself because they all have the luxury of having had Madonna (and others, of course) come before them to make the world a much safer place. She is the blueprint and will never be replaced -- or even rivaled, for that matter.
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THIS!!!
Gaga is the next Cindy Lauper, just compare their first two albums sales.
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Yes.
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I doubt anyone will have as much impact as Madonna, but it wouldn't surprise me if she outlasts the other girls 
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What exactly was ground breaking or risky or experimental or anything about the Madonna or Like a Virgin albums at the time they were released? They're just solid pop albums which were very successful and are remembered mainly because Madonna released them. The exact same could easily be said for One of the Boys and Teenage Dream in 20 years time.
People give early Madonna too much credit. Yes, she's the most iconic and successful female musician of all time now, but back when she was just away to release her 3rd album? No way. People would've laughed if you said she'd be considered the Queen of Pop in 20 years time.
Out of the current female popstars it's between Rihanna and Katy who are the most likely to still be successful in the 30s, Gaga is going down the Cyndi route of being relevant only to the Gays.
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Madonna did not get as many number ones as Janet, Mariah, and many manny more during the 90s. I think she only had four?
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Originally posted by Benjamin
What exactly was ground breaking or risky or experimental or anything about the Madonna or Like a Virgin albums at the time they were released? They're just solid pop albums which were very successful and are remembered mainly because Madonna released them. The exact same could easily be said for One of the Boys and Teenage Dream in 20 years time.
People give early Madonna too much credit. Yes, she's the most iconic and successful female musician of all time now, but back when she was just away to release her 3rd album? No way. People would've laughed if you said she'd be considered the Queen of Pop in 20 years time.
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Madonna performed "Like a Virgin" at the first MTV Video Music Awards in 1984, where she appeared on stage atop a giant wedding cake dressed in a wedding dress, adorned with the infamous "Boy Toy" belt buckle, and veil. The climax of her risqué performance found her "humping" and rolling around on the stage. To this day, the performance is noted as one of the most iconic and biggest performances in MTV's history.
After the song and its video were released, "Like a Virgin" attracted the attention of family organizations who complained that the video and the song, promoted sex without marriage and undermined family values, offering an unsavoury image of Madonna as a *****.[83] Outraged moralists condemned her as a sex kitten and sought to ban the song and the video.[84] Conservatives were angered that Madonna dared to portray religious symbolism and the virginal wedding attire in a sexual context. Clerk noted the song attracted an unprecedented level of attention from social groups compared to any female singer's song. "The main problem was that most of them listened superficially to the lyric of the song, imagining that it detailed or called on an innocent's sexual initiation."
The song's influence was most profound on the younger generation. Madonna's public persona of an indomitable, sexually unashamed, supremely confident woman struck a chord with them. Biographer Andrew Morton noted that most of Madonna's admirers were females, who were born-and-brought-up with an image of old-fashioned stereotypes of women as virginal brides, or as *****s, or with feminist values that rejected the use of a woman's looks for her self-advancement.[85] Author William McKeen of Rock and roll is here to stay: an anthology commented that with the song, Madonna became the last word in attitude and fashion for young girls of that time. He compared that image of Madonna with that of Barbie. McKeen explained that Madonna intermixed middle-class ideas of femininity with examples of what femininity meant to her, which was having equal opportunity. She offered an aggressive sexuality that implied it was acceptable for women not only to initiate relationships, but also enjoy them.[86] In addition, according to Morton, at a time when eighties fashions were promoting flat-chested, stick-thin women as ideals of beauty, the more curvaceous Madonna made average girls feel that it was fine to be in the shape they were. A new word called 'Madonna wannabe' was introduced to describe the thousands of girls who tried to emulate Madonna's style. At one point, Macy's allotted an entire floor area to the sale of Madonna-look clothing, including cut-off gloves, rubber bangles and lacy leggings, which prompted Madonna herself to later comment "that's a riot, because I was just making the best of my situation."
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You could say pretty much the exact same thing about I Kissed a Girl and it'd be just as accurate.
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Originally posted by Benjamin
You could say pretty much the exact same thing about I Kissed a Girl and it'd be just as accurate.
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That's a complete lie. A song like IKAG (or any song like it, I'm not just picking on Katy... this includes Gaga and Rihanna too) isn't pushing any boundaries because Madonna and the other women before our current batch of pop stars did the work already. They challenged the popular notions of women's sexuality and came from a totally different era of attitudes about sexuality, when the sexual revolution was only just finally making premarital sex acceptable.
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True, I was just meaning that if the teenagers of the 2030s read an article which spoke of Katy singing about lesbianism being normal during times when America was still largely homophobic and gay marriage was still illegal in a majority of states it'd come across very similar to that article!
Besides, I was meaning more sound-wise when I asked what was Experimental or Risky about Like a Virgin, I completely blanked on the performances, so I'll give you that!
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