[BlueMoon77]

Originally posted by boodytay

I'm not attacking my fave's musical abilities, I'm criticizing one of them. Attacking her singing is saying that she can't sing at all and has absolutely no hope for improvement.

The cover up
The delusion

[boodytay]

Originally posted by BlueMoon77

The cover up
The delusion

There's no cover up and no delusion. You're clearly don't want to have a reasonable discussion. Simple as that.

[atishvaze]

Taylor has improved a lot vocally over the past couples of years. And anyways, She will always be remembered as a songwriter rather than a singer imo

[boodytay]

Originally posted by atishvaze

Taylor has improved a lot vocally over the past couples of years. And anyways, She will always be remembered as a songwriter rather than a singer imo

Agreed.

[IStanHard]

Taylor can sing. Most of the time.
See, as simple as that. As long as her voice sounds pleasant to our ears then we're good. No need for 'mid-range blah blah blah' like

[IStanHard]

Originally posted by atishvaze

Taylor has improved a lot vocally over the past couples of years. And anyways, She will always be remembered as a songwriter rather than a singer imo

+1

[WayTooHonest13]

Iconic words.

“There are a million different opinions and a million different people. I get it that not everyone is going to like everything you do. And I get that no matter what, you are going to be criticized for something. But I also get there are different kinds of ways to criticize someone. There is constructive criticism, there is professional criticism and there’s just being mean. There is a line that you cross when you just start to attack everything about a person, and there is one guy, man, who just crossed the line over and over again. Just being mean. This happens no matter what you do, no matter how old you are, no matter what your job is… there is always going to be someone who is just mean to you. And dealing with that is all you can control and how you handle it. This song is about how I handle it."

[boodytay]

Originally posted by IStanHard

Taylor can sing. Most of the time.
See, as simple as that. As long as her voice sounds pleasant to our ears then we're good. No need for 'mid-range blah blah blah' like

Yup as long as her voice sounds pleasant to our ears. But if it doesn't most of the times live? Then we should point this out and move on while appreciating her other musical abilities.

[Karma Chameleon]

Originally posted by atishvaze

Taylor has improved a lot vocally over the past couples of years. And anyways, She will always be remembered as a songwriter rather than a singer imo

She definitely has improved, as you say Taylor will always be known for her songwriting but she should really practice her singing technique if she wants some credibility as a live act, which I think she does want because she seems to love touring

[boodytay]

^Great quote. I love her wise beyond her years way of talking

[WayTooHonest13]

She's on a critically acclaimed, sould out world tour.
She has credibility as a live act, so let's not.

[boodytay]

Originally posted by Karma Chameleon

She definitely has improved, as you say Taylor will always be known for her songwriting but she should really practice her singing technique if she wants some credibility as a live act, which I think she does want because she seems to love touring

and there's nothing wrong with saying that.

[Achilles.]

I'd like to amend my post from last night. The EHC remix is going top 10 on iTunes, not just top 20 as I originally thought.

[muddysquirrel]

Originally posted by Taylor Swift

30. Everything Has Changed (Remix)

Wait. From where did this come from? Is there a banner or something?

[boodytay]

Doing the most per usual I see

[ksmith]

I just caught up with the last thirty pages and I honestly think this is the messiest the base has ever been. Certainly lively but a total mess.

Back to when was being talked about forever ago until now:

-White Horse is very well written but I think she has better ballads
-I've said it before and I'll say it again: IAD, SSS and Starlight remain among the weakest on the standard
-You all need to get into Crazier
-Mine is perfect and an amazing lead single, anyone who disagrees can log off forever
-I can't believe Red the album and the song are both flopping. (I mean, I can but...)
-Good for you, EHC but your time should be in the fall and Red should've been a crossover smash
-Taylor can sing and she has greatly improved but she's still not the greatest but as we've said many times, she doesn't have to be. Vocal perfection and acrobatics are not what we stan for or what her more casual fans care about--its the whole package with her. Technicality means nothing to me when it comes to Taylor.

[Icannot]

Originally posted by muddysquirrel

Wait. From where did this come from? Is there a banner or something?

Yes, it got a banner.

Can we move on?

[IStanHard]

Originally posted by boodytay

Yup as long as her voice sounds pleasant to our ears. But if it doesn't most of the times live? Then we should point this out and move on while appreciating her other musical abilities.

Agree. Plus she needs a vocal tutor.

I was watching her BBMA performance last week, then my cousin beside me said she sucks at singing. I literally pulled her hair and told her that her dad is f*cking his secretary.

[WayTooHonest13]

23. Everything Has Changed (Remix)

[boodytay]

Originally posted by KSmith011

I just caught up with the last thirty pages and I honestly think this is the messiest the base has ever been. Certainly lively but a total mess.

Back to when was being talked about forever ago:

-White Horse is very well written but I think she has better ballads
-I've said it before and I'll say it again: IAD, SSS and Starlight remain among the weakest on the standard
-You all need to get into Crazier
-Mine is perfect and an amazing lead single, anyone who disagrees can log off forever
-I can't believe Red the album and the song are both flopping.
-Good for you, EHC but your time should be in the fall and Red should've been a crossover smash
-Taylor can sing and she has greatly improved but she's still not the greatest but as we've said many times, she doesn't have to be. Vocal perfection and acrobats are not what we stan for or what her more casual fans care about--its the whole package with her. Technicality means nothing to me when it comes to Taylor.

Agree with the bolded parts. But she's still a vocalist, even if she's primarily a songwriter. And as a vocalist, she can be criticized if the vocal problem gets in the way of emoting. And sometimes bad technique does that. And there's nothing wring with saying that imo.