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Discussion: Is 'BEYONCÉ' a Classic?
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hmmm
I'll have to go with a yes
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Yes, I didn't know who I was in life until I heard Bionic.
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yes, it's a classic flop 
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Yes. Just because it flopped doesn't mean it wasn't the best album released in 2010.
It is a classic and it still being brought up today
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in its own special way 
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In a way. It's everyone's favorite flop. Let me go on Spotify and listen to the amazing ballads and mid-tempos.
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Member Since: 10/29/2011
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 yes
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Let me take the time here to say that I've thrown my share of Christina shade in the past, and I've been embittered by what appeared to be similarities to my fave as well as what I have perceived to be a negative and (to put it bluntly) bitchy attitude from Christina. She has never been one of my favorite people, and up until tonight when I took the time to once again listen to the album in question in full, she has not been one of my favorite musical artists.
However, Bionic is, in all honesty, a brilliant - if long - piece of work. It may not have caught on, and it may have been handled worse than most other albums in music history, but that only served to make it perhaps more legendary among pop fans than it ever would have been if it was to have obtained average success. You do not go into a single thread in which "flop" is mentioned without at least a subtle allusion to Bionic or its successor.
So, I suppose my final answer is dual sided; the general public will never recognize Bionic for what it is, be that a great album or a flop album since it's both. However, it will live on for years to come in the pop music fandom as the classic example of a flop and it will attract a cult following of some sort for its quality. It's unfortunate that this is how it will be remembered, but in the end, remembered it will be, as opposed to some other girls' albums.
Looking back, I think what killed the album is the length and therefore inclusion of tracks that were not so much filler, but rather felt as though they belonged to a separate piece of work, and the poor promotion, starting with a good song but terrible single choice to lead off the album and a great but highly explicit song to follow it up. The lack of a tour probably also contributed. Had Bionic been treated properly, it would have done just as well as many other albums of the past few years.
And to those who bitch and complain about "essays" on ATRL when someone writes one paragraph, this is what an "essay" looks like.
tl;dr yes, I suppose.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Apollō
Let me take the time here to say that I've thrown my share of Christina shade in the past, and I've been embittered by what appeared to be similarities to my fave as well as what I have perceived to be a negative and (to put it bluntly) bitchy attitude from Christina. She has never been one of my favorite people, and up until tonight when I took the time to once again listen to the album in question in full, she has not been one of my favorite musical artists.
However, Bionic is, in all honesty, a brilliant - if long - piece of work. It may not have caught on, and it may have been handled worse than most other albums in music history, but that only served to make it perhaps more legendary among pop fans than it ever would have been if it was to have obtained average success. You do not go into a single thread in which "flop" is mentioned without at least a subtle allusion to Bionic or its successor.
So, I suppose my final answer is dual sided; the general public will never recognize Bionic for what it is, be that a great album or a flop album since it's both. However, it will live on for years to come in the pop music fandom as the classic example of a flop and it will attract a cult following of some sort for its quality. It's unfortunate that this is how it will be remembered, but in the end, remembered it will be, as opposed to some other girls' albums.
Looking back, I think what killed the album is the length and therefore inclusion of tracks that were not so much filler, but rather felt as though they belonged to a separate piece of work, and the poor promotion, starting with a good song but terrible single choice to lead off the album and a great but highly explicit song to follow it up. The lack of a tour probably also contributed. Had Bionic been treated properly, it would have done just as well as many other albums of the past few years.
And to those who bitch and complain about "essays" on ATRL when someone writes one paragraph, this is what an "essay" looks like.
tl;dr yes, I suppose.
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Good read. 
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