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Hey all! Thanks for the kind birthday wishes! I haven't been on ATRL these past few days between birthday stuff and work, but I can now confirm that the results will be posted TONIGHT!!! Likely around 5 or 6 EST.
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3rd Class: ENGLISH
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This week we welcome visiting professor borntodie to the Faculty!
 Headmaster boyonce
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NICKIMINAJ: You certainly seem to have your finger on the pulse of what makes a typical "low quality" ATRL post, but your high quality posts came across as a bit disingenuous. At times it felt like a prepared statement for a press conference rather than a forum post. The trick with the HQ posts is to think about the things we mentioned like spelling, grammar, purpose, and point - but not to forget it's a reply in a forum thread. Yours came across more like statements in an essay or something.
TheSeenScene: I feel like a bit of a broken record here, but once again I want to say how awesome I think it is that you're taking this game so seriously. This week you proved you are capable of contributing high quality posts to ATRL, and you presented it in a way that was fun and effective. Awesome job, and creating the OPs really had you going above and beyond. Honestly, I feel like if we do this challenge next semester, we could use your entry as an example. Fantastic.
theo: I think the "explanation" bit may divide the judges (after writing this I checked their comments, and it appears this is true), but I for one really like it. It shows you actually understand the post qualities we talked about in the assignment introduction. Your HQ posts show insight and intelligence without repeating yourself over and over. I for one really struggle with keeping things concise, so I salute you for this! Nice work. Your formatting is enough to make your entry stand out and look polished, but not overboard.
CrazyCat: Maybe it was just me, but I found your layout a bit confusing and tough to follow. A few headers to show where the LQ post ended and HQ post started may have been helpful. Your HQ posts were alright, but at times bordered on fake sounding. Remember, it's possible to still drag and express displeasure, just do it in a classier manner!
ririfan: "One night, Katy Perry went to a night club." "One night, Katy Perry went to a night club." "One night, Katy Perry went to a night club." I literally read that line over 45 times only to keep asking myself "WHAT???". I started to think maybe you misunderstood the challenge and were writing stories instead of ATRL posts. But your 2nd and 3rd posts were more in ATRL posting style, so I guess not. I have no idea why you wrote it like that, but it was the oddest thing submitted this week.
Marooner: An alright job, but I think you fell into the trap of thinking all HQ posts must be nice and kind. That's simply not true. While I do advocate for kindness on ATRL, there's certainly things I talk about on here in a negative light. The trick is to stay away from the ratchet dragging and lame insults and learn to express your displeasure in a coherent but still respectful way. I felt like you were just faking niceness because you thought it would make a HQ post.
Barbie: Good stuff here. Your HQ posts were some of the only ones submitted this week that come across as genuine. I'm convinced you actually have the ability to craft a HQ post and didn't just have to fake it for this challenge. There's nothing I love more than a well argued point, and you do that here. Side note, I love that you use the same formatting week after week. We haven't even talked about branding yet (but if you followed Top Member at all, you know it's one of my core beliefs about being a great ATRL member), yet you show it every week - I could recognize your posts as yours even if your name wasn't on them - that's a good thing.
Blue: Your side note made my heart grow about three sizes. I love when people have personal breakthroughs with these challenges are realize they aren't just for fun, but if taken seriously they can actually better you. Some advice though, I'd cut back on the smileys in your HQ posts. I thought it was a bit overboard and took away from your actual message. Thanks for taking it seriously though!
Jad: You did what we asked, yes. But does your entry stand out in my memory? Not so much. As we move past the start of the game and into the middle of it, you've got to put that extra bit of effort into your entires to make them shine. Simply doing what we ask is good, but when you're up against others who are going that extra mile, your entries look worse in comparison.
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Nicki Minaj – I felt your “low quality” posts were lacking a bit. It seemed you really didn't put any effort into it. I found your high quality posts a bit bland. It just seemed like you were trying to fit in as many PC statements as possible.
Scene – I liked your entry. I enjoyed how you showed your own personality in the high quality posts. Well done!
Theoyella – Great entry. You took a step further in explaining why each post was either high or low in quality. Really unique. Great job!
CrazyCat – I appreciated the creative approach you took to the challenge, but it didn't really pan out for me. It just came off as contrived. I think your low quality posts were a bit much but fine. Your high quality posts were good except for the Ke$ha one. You came off as a Ke$ha stan (which isn't bad) but it seemed you took the comment incredibly personally. It doesn't exactly exude “high quality”.
Ririfan – At first I was incredibly confused by your Katy Perry entry, and I still am. Not sure what you were doing there. I would have appreciated separate examples of high and low quality posts instead of a poorly written low quality post followed by its “corrected” equivalent. Your entry was a bit off a miss I'm afraid.
Marooner – I think your entry was just OK. I did appreciate the personal touch you added to both types of posts, but I think your high quality posts fell a little short. I just felt like you could have done more with them.
Barbie – So here's the problem. If I have to double check to see if you were one of the competitors who has learned English as a second language -- there's a problem. Your low quality posts were good, but run on sentences aren't particularly a plus when writing a high quality post.
Blue – I think your high quality posts were a bit all over the place. You over used smilies, and you could have written your post in a paragraph format instead of making a new line for each sentence. I feel if you would have structured it better (and taken out those awful smilies), it would have made your high quality post just that – high quality.
Jad – I feel you were one of the only competitors to show your personality in your high quality posts. With that being said, I feel your high quality posts could have been stated a bit more eloquently. But points again for showing some personality!
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NICKIMINAJ -
Post 1: The low quality post wasn't that low quality since it wouldn't get warned, but I really liked your high quality post. It's something I would've said and that's good in my books.
Post 2: Again the low quality post isn't that low quality, it's even kind of funny. Your high quality post sounds really unrealistic but it's classy and your comment adds discussion tot he topic instead of halting it.
Post 3: Definitely a good example of a low quality post. "thing"  Again your second post comes off a little unrealistic, but I like your use of words and the tone seems very professional. Good job overall for all of these.
Overall: No real complaints here except for some small changes here and there. You did everything you were supposed to and you did it well. Nice job.
TheSeenScene - First off, I loved that you did those articles. Including all those pictures, quotes, and detailed writes up was very creative.
Post 1: Good example of a low quality post. The bleach joke, the spelling, everything was just.  As for your high quality comment, it wasn't all that high quality. It doesn't add anything to the discussion and would most likely get overlooked.
Post 2: Another example of a low quality post. Nicknames and bringing up Madonna in a Lady Gaga thread is so tired.  Your high quality post is really good. It seems sentimental and I liked the part where you said "This is nothing more than a bump in the road for her." it seems so genuine and that is what makes a high quality post for me.
Post 3: And lastly another good example of a low quality post.  Bringing up Warrior flopping is always #1 on my list of annoying/tired drags. I liked your high quality post, it wasn't great like your second post, but it gets the job done. Though the " I don't see Millions of Moms coming out victorious in the end, as always." part was unnecessary.
Overall: It felt like you spent more time on the articles than the posts themselves. Try to even it out so one part of your entry isn't receiving less attention than the other.
theoyella jukebox -
Post 1: Yasss. I HATE those posts that only co-sign. Utterly and completely annoying. Your high quality post is perfect as well. It's something I would probably say word for word too. Really like this post, I have no complaints.
Post 2: Good example of a low quality post, I've seen better examples but this would still get warned so kudos. Your second post comes off a little satire with the "Or perhaps that was her intention all along, to become a force large enough and then to release Christian music in order to convert her pop fans." line (I feel like a lot of people would laugh at it  ) but overall this is a good example of a high quality post. You added something to the discussion that I would've never thought of even if it was a little off so good job.
Post 3: Another example of a post I hate. And that goddamn  smiley is so annoying. Again, good job on the low quality post. As for your high quality post, it's really good too. It doesn't really add to the discussion but you stated your opinion in a very sophisticated way and I like that.
Overall: Another nice entry from you. You formatted everything really nicely and most of your examples were on point. Keep it up.
CrazyCat -
Post 1: Such a cringe-worthy low quality post but that's what most of them are so good job. I liked your high quality post for the most part. You repeated yourself a little too much and the "So those mothers can sit their asses down." line was unneeded but I like how deep you went to support Ke$ha and what you said was the truth.
Post 2: I can't even understand that low quality post  But good job on it. I really liked your high quality post because instead of saying "OMG good for her!" you're adding a discussion with your questions and making the thread more interesting.
Post 3: The low quality post, like mostly everyone else's was good. Typical and expected, but good. Your high quality post was really underwhelming though. The opening line sets such a bad tone that it makes the post feel low quality. Maybe it's the word "Right?" starting it off that throws me off idk. But this post didn't live up to your other ones I have to say.
Overall: Good job. This isn't as good as your entry last round but still a solid effort. As I said before, your third post was a little off but your other 2 posts makeup for it. Nice job.
Marooner5 -
Post 1: Your messy post was messy enough. It's all I can say since it's only 2 words. Your high quality post came off fake with that gif. The sincerity was just really lacking.
Post 2: I don't think that post would even be warned, so I can't say it's really that messy. Your high quality post would've been better without the use of  . It just makes it come off so immature.
Post 3: I chuckled at that messy post. Really good job on it cause that would've caused some kii's. Your high quality post is short and straight to the point which I like. The only part I didn't like was the "promo" part cause that's just awkward to state in a thread about support foundations.
Overall: This entry was lacking a lot. You made small errors here and there that really brought you down, your third post was your best but that's not saying much.
Su-Barbie-A
Post 1: Good low quality post, and the high quality post was "refreshing". I would've never expected to see a post like that and I was pleasantly surprised.
Post 2: Another good low quality post. It was expected like I've said for most of these low quality posts but that's kind of the point. Your high quality post was what really caught my attention. You asserted yourself to the troll but also did it in a classy way. It's always good to do that when in a debate/discussion cause although high quality usually means nice, it doesn't mean to just let yourself get run over by.
Post 3: That low quality post.  I feel bad for laughing. As for your high quality post, it reminded me of what everyone else said to it but it's still good. Classy and short, but still a great job.
Overall: VERY impressed with you this round. Each post was a little different from the other and every post sounded like you put a lot of effort into it. Fantastic job. 
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Post 1: I don't think that messy post would get warned in my opinion. It's not rude enough or flamebaiting for it to happen. Maybe a Reminder, but anyways as for your high quality post I liked it. You stated that you're happy for Katy, but also added in a little discussion topic since you brought up her dad.
Post 2: Nice low quality post, a little little long but whatever. Your high quality post is alright. I don't like how harsh it comes off to Beyonce with the "this makes it really obvious that she is only here for money and fame and i really can't condone such a behavior" comment. It comes off very rude and a little ignorant.
Post 3: That low quality post isn't that low quality. It just seems like an excited stan attempting too drag. Extremely harmless tbh. As for your high quality post, it was really good. I like that you're excited for new music but also concerned about Rihanna. It's always good to go beyond what the title says and try to think of other sub-topics cause it always makes the thread more interesting.
Overall: You're still floating inbetween the middle for me. This wasn't a bad entry, but again it didn't standout and the highlights weren't as big as other contestants. I see a lot of potential in you and I know you, but this was a very underwhelming entry.
Jad -
Post 1: That's not really a low quality post. It's not high quality, but I don't see anything wrong with it. Your high quality post is actually of lower quality than your low quality post. It comes off rude and saying "What the hell?" just sets a negative tone.
Post 2: Now this is a low quality post. It wouldn't get warned, but it's very warned and insensitive. I like your high quality post. It seems genuine and comes off very positive. Good job on this one.
Post 3: Expected low quality post. Your high quality post is good though. I thought I was gonna hate how short your entry was, but that was the best part. You didn't ******** your way to make it seem better or nicer than it was like some other entries and I appreciate that.
Overall: Much better than last week. Except for your first post which was a dud, this entry was really good and my expectations of you in this competition have gone up a lot.
ririfan21 -
Post 1: Way too long. It was a struggle to finish that entire thing, especially with that colored font. That being said, I do think this was good. Even if it was long, the spelling and grammar in the low quality post makes my head hurt so much that as soon as I got to the high quality it was bliss.
Post 2: The grammar and spelling oh my GOD. I couldn't even finish it. Although this was the same type of example as your first one, it was still good. And I like how your post recommended what Britney should do and how her contribution to the foundation is a good thing rather than bad.
Post 3: Yassss. The low quality post and high quality post slayed me. Like this is REALLY good, nobody did a take on an off topic post which are equally as bad as annoying as saying somebody's fave is ugly or trolling/dragging etc. The first one is so off topic I can't even.  But your second post keeps everything on track and on topic.
Overall: BIG improvement from the last challenge. I can see the effort and I'm impressed. Although your sentences are very awkward and too short sometimes, this was a good entry. I was expecting to not like it from all that text, but I was pleasantly surprised. Good job riri.
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3rd Class: ENGLISH
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Scene: Welp. Your LQ posts are straight out of SYG (and might even get warned there as well). Those would be extreme examples of LQ posts since most people wouldn’t risk the points. I think your HQ Kesha post would be the exact words I would use. The other two HQ posts seemed genuine, but still a little generic.
Marooner: I kinda giggled at your LQ Britney post.  You use a lot of exclamation posts, though! May want to be careful about that! Aside from that, I think you did an incredible job showing your diversity!
NICKIMINAJ: Your LQ Rihanna post is exactly what would spam up the first few pages of that thread, so good job on there. Unfortunately, you went too far in the opposite direction for your HQ post. Is that really something you’d post in that thread? I can’t think of any user who would speak like that. Same goes for the other two parts of your entry. You just sound really fake and try hard 
Su-Barbie: Hm. Your HQ posts were actually on point. However, I'm not sure your LQ posts are realistic. You just kinda threw out some nicknames and stock insults but it was more of a parody than real posts.
Theo: I’m not sure if you’re aware, but I freaking hate cosign posts. They irrationally infuriate me for no reason, so good job on using that for LQ  Your HQ Blue Ivy post is pretty much perfect but the other two posts seem like you used a thesaurus for every word and then signed it Baby Kangaroo Tribianni.
Blue: The only real difference in your LQ/HQ posts is the fact that you agree/disagree with the thread. Stylistically and visually, they look almost exactly the same.
CrazyCat: Similar to many others, your HQ posts came off as fake. They don't even sound like they could fit into a standard Celebria thread. Your LQ posts are on point and more diverse than others.
Jad: I don't know what to say. You also sound like the only difference between the posts is whether or not you support the OP.
ririfan: tl;dr. I can't even tell which posts are which, which is not a good sign. There should be a clear visual difference between the two, like gifs, format, style, etc. I can't think of any thread I've ever seen on this site which used posts like the ones you suggested. It sounds like you were telling stories.
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NICKIMINAJ
There was a clear difference between your LQ and HQ posts, the latter showing correct grammar, coherence and valuable content which was good. I especially liked the third one, you expressed your point there really well. Overall, I did feel like your comments came off a bit stiff and constructed, though; try to let a bit more of your personality shine through in your posts. Even when delivering classy replies, you can still use smileys and gifs to loosen things up a little. Just experiment with it, and I'm sure with time you'll find the right measure.
TheSeenScene
You went to great lengths this round, even typing out OPs for the hypothetical headlines. It can be a dangerous thing to do more than what was asked, but you did not get caught up in the task and actually provided a useful context for your LQ and HQ posts. You excelled at both of them, making it look like they were written by two different people; and what I really loved about your HQ posts was that they seemed effortless and real, like they could be posted in any of those threads if they ever came to be and they would fit right in with the rest of ATRL. You also showed a variety of replies, expressing sarcasm, support and criticism respectively, in a classy and acceptable manner. Good use of smileys, too. Great job.
theo
I have to say, I was a bit thrown off by those explanations you added to each comment; it made me think that you were not confident that your posts would speak for themselves. I don't think that would have been necessary, it seemed quite clear that your concept was to provide three different types of LQ/HQ answers. Your HQ comments are very well thought out and add to the conversation without being too forceful or subjective – but that's exactly what bothers me a little. All of your replies are kept neutral, you're listing arguments for either side of the discussion instead of expressing your personal opinion and that does not make you stand out much. It might be tough for you because you don't stan for any of the pop girls, but don't be afraid to speak your mind or take sides, it won't automatically make you a messy poster.
CrazyCat
I don't quite understand why you incorporated quotes by other users and then used them as a base for your replies, it just complicated things. The HQ posts differed from the LQ ones in attitude and use of correct spelling, grammar and tone, as well as the use of gifs. That's something I don't necessarily agree on, you can definitely include gifs or smilies in serious posts – if used right, they can add a nice touch and a personal note, which is something I think was lacking a bit in your posts. I also had the feeling that you still had a bit of a harsh tone in parts of your replies, but that might be due to English not being your first language. You're moving into the right direction, but maybe try looking for some more neutral expressions to come across less impulsive.
ririfan21
I feel like you maybe didn't fully understand your task for this challenge, especially since you initially had a different idea about it and boyonce had to clarify in the thread. I can't make anything out of your first post, I don't understand how that would make sense in any thread. The other two, I get what you were trying to do, but I think only the third example really works. You really created a good difference there and showed what a good answer would look like. The second one seems a bit weak in comparison since it's only based on correcting grammar and spelling; it's important to know that, but I don't think it needed its own example. Overall, it's difficult to judge because your entry is so all over the place, but my advice is to try not to think too much about your words and be as concise as possible when getting your point across.
Marooner5
Reading through your posts, I got the impression that they were a bit one dimensional. You chose three relatively similar topics, the LQ replies were all flamebait/shady, and in contrast to that the HQ replies were positive/supportive, with only the Ke$ha one showing at least some sort of criticism. That one came off as a bit rude, btw, but the language barrier might be to blame for that. Another thing I noticed was that the HQ posts still seemed a bit rushed. I just couldn't find a lot of substance there that would further the discussion in the respective threads. I like how you were not afraid to use smileys and gifs in the HQ parts, however the way you used them seems kind of random, like you just added them somewhere in between without a real purpose. Try to place them more effectively. Overall, you are on the right way, but some more attention to detail could not hurt.
Su-Barbie-A
I like what you did, the LQ posts were just bad enough to contrast and highlight the strong points of your HQ posts. Those had exactly the right length, you seemed to get across everything you wanted with the right words and sounded level-headed and reasonable. Your second set was a good example of how to put another user in place in a polite way, without bashing them. I really can't find anything I didn't like about your entry, however I'd just like to encourage you to also make use of the occasional smiley or gif in your HQ posts, just to lose the formal air of your posts.
!Blue!
I can definitely see an improvement between the LQ and HQ posts, and considering that was actually your posting style once upon your time, it's great that you have already changed so much! You are on the right way. What I noticed about your replies was that they were very formulaic and constructed; you put every sentence into a new line and added a smiley at the end of each line. I could see that keeping people from taking you seriously because it is just a bit too much and makes it look like you are unsure of or uncomfortable with what you are saying. Reduce the smileys, and try to focus more on the impact of words themselves – in addition to that, I'd suggest trying to connect your thoughts and sentences better, to make them a bit more coherent and structured.
Jad
This is the entry with the smallest discrepancy between the LQ and HQ replies and that makes me a bit sad, because your HQ posts are not bad. But due to the relatively acceptable nature of your LQ posts, they just don't seem as good. Similar to Blue, you seemed to use the smileys in a rather formulaic way, putting two in every post. That gave the impression you were insecure about the content of your posts. The comments themselves were a bit short, considering there was not much substance in them; they seemed very superficial, maybe rushed. Of course you don't need to overthink every post, but I think that with some more consideration, you could take it one step further and deliver some great post that are more than just nice.
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Though the " I don't see Millions of Moms coming out victorious in the end, as always." part was unnecessary.
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I was debating whether or not to include that, and right after I hit submit I knew I should have deleted it. I'll know next time to trust my gut.
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Co-signing annoys me too, I'm glad the judges agree with me on that. 
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Theo: I’m not sure if you’re aware, but I freaking hate cosign posts. They irrationally infuriate me for no reason, so good job on using that for LQ Your HQ Blue Ivy post is pretty much perfect but the other two posts seem like you used a thesaurus for every word and then signed it Baby Kangaroo Tribianni.
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Katie! I had to Google that. Welp. Drag a bit.
I don't even know what to say tbh. I suppose one of the things I have to work on is ... not trying too hard? I didn't use a thesaurus and that's how I'd really type out a response in threads like these... I try to seem smart, and put-together...and it falls flat. I think that may be how I come across all the time.  It's a good thing I'm here then.
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I have to say, I was a bit thrown off by those explanations you added to each comment; it made me think that you were not confident that your posts would speak for themselves. I don't think that would have been necessary, it seemed quite clear that your concept was to provide three different types of LQ/HQ answers.
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Partially, it was to go the extra mile, and make my entry stand out, which was something I never quite got the hang of in ANTM. But you're right, though. I wasn't confident enough to let my posts speak for themselves.
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Your HQ comments are very well thought out and add to the conversation without being too forceful or subjective – but that's exactly what bothers me a little. All of your replies are kept neutral, you're listing arguments for either side of the discussion instead of expressing your personal opinion and that does not make you stand out much. It might be tough for you because you don't stan for any of the pop girls, but don't be afraid to speak your mind or take sides, it won't automatically make you a messy poster.
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So my problem is ... my lack of personality in these posts. I didn't let my guard down enough. I just typed out responses...and that came back to bite me in my ass in the end. 
This reminds of what you said about me being the weakest link in ANTM, Anna. I guess it's somewhat because I'm still figuring myself out, among other things...I didn't show my personality enough in these posts. I was trying to be smart and sophisticated, and it came out ... voiceless and dry. That's something I'll have to work on. Finding my own voice, and showing it through my posts.
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Oh, and I also want to clear something up regarding my pop girl stan card.
I am a huge fan of Lady Gaga.
I love Rih and Bey, I grew up listening to them, and I listen to their music a lot. I also like Ke$ha, Lana...and Katy somewhat, but do I stan for them? No. I am a fan of them though. I've never really liked Britney at all, but I started listening to more of her music and I don't dislike her anymore.
Honestly I just find these labels confusing. Stan, fan, casual fan. I like their music, so I'll listen. I don't want to feel like I have to be apart of stanning culture so I've never really taken part in it. But on the other side, I've never wanted to not have the option of taking part in all the "fun" of stanning so I've never made it fully clear what sides I'm on.
I hope that cleared things up. I'm just tired of seeming so ambiguous.
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@Katie yeah, after reading the other entries I forgot a LQ post doesn't always have to be drag. It can also show how deluded some stans might get.
@Ammer I didn't mention that because I didn't want the judges to think "oh, he doesn't know english, let's be nice". That being said, I'll promote my new drink: Absolut Death
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The amount of spelling errors I made from rushing those critiques. And not me having the longest critique sheet by miles.
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I don't know where to put this but some people on ATRL really need to seek help like dayum, their hate towards an artist is not cute.
Bunch of sad and depressing people with too much time on their hands.
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I would have loved if Katy could have given me an advice but i think i can work on the things the other judges said 
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Our exact instructions from the game creator is to write a "few short lines" for each entry.
Speaking of our headmaster, I guess we'll see you tomorrow for results? Even though it looks like we know who it is. 
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Jad: You did what we asked, yes. But does your entry stand out in my memory? Not so much. As we move past the start of the game and into the middle of it, you've got to put that extra bit of effort into your entires to make them shine. Simply doing what we ask is good, but when you're up against others who are going that extra mile, your entries look worse in comparison.
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boyonce, I agree with you a lot on this. After reading the entries I do feel like I could've given my posts more thought and really make them stand out. I will try to put that extra effort in the upcoming classes. (if I don't get eliminated first  )
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Jad – I feel you were one of the only competitors to show your personality in your high quality posts. With that being said, I feel your high quality posts could have been stated a bit more eloquently. But points again for showing some personality!
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Ammer, thanks for those kind words  . and Like I said to boyonce I know that I could've been more eloquent but I was just trying to keep it realistic instead of writing an excellent HQ posts that would never actually be posted in a forum like ATRL.
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Post 1: That's not really a low quality post. It's not high quality, but I don't see anything wrong with it. Your high quality post is actually of lower quality than your low quality post. It comes off rude and saying "What the hell?" just sets a negative tone.
Post 2: Now this is a low quality post. It wouldn't get warned, but it's very warned and insensitive. I like your high quality post. It seems genuine and comes off very positive. Good job on this one.
Post 3: Expected low quality post. Your high quality post is good though. I thought I was gonna hate how short your entry was, but that was the best part. You didn't ******** your way to make it seem better or nicer than it was like some other entries and I appreciate that.
Overall: Much better than last week. Except for your first post which was a dud, this entry was really good and my expectations of you in this competition have gone up a lot.
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pika, Thank you very much and I hope I can reach those expectations that you've set for me  So glad you liked my second and third post. Now concerning my first post, I just wanted to demonstrate that HQ posts don't always mean they have to be positive. They can contain negative remarks too. Should I have done it with being so straight forward and without setting such a negative tone? Yes I should've and I will work on it.
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Jad: I don't know what to say. You also sound like the only difference between the posts is whether or not you support the OP.
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Katie, I'm starting to have the feeling that you don't like me that much . First ATRL's Holy Trinity and now this. Your critique for my posts was the shortest. They weren't really that bad and other judges seem to agree. I do have to work on being more eloquent but that doesn't make them bad and sort of not make you not knowing what to say about them. Like seriously.
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This is the entry with the smallest discrepancy between the LQ and HQ replies and that makes me a bit sad, because your HQ posts are not bad. But due to the relatively acceptable nature of your LQ posts, they just don't seem as good. Similar to Blue, you seemed to use the smileys in a rather formulaic way, putting two in every post. That gave the impression you were insecure about the content of your posts. The comments themselves were a bit short, considering there was not much substance in them; they seemed very superficial, maybe rushed. Of course you don't need to overthink every post, but I think that with some more consideration, you could take it one step further and deliver some great post that are more than just nice.
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Anna, Yes I agree, I did feel that I was insecure with my posts but I really thought them through before I sent them. Something you all judges agreed upon that I needed to be take more consideration into my posts and make them really better.
Thank you to the judges for liking my posts and will start working on fixing them. Hopefully my mistakes weren't big enough to get me eliminated.
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Every critique, I got was on point. Thank you judges, I will try my best, well will try, if I get through to avoid the same mistakes. This was an interesting round, and definitely got to learn a lot from it. I actually paid time to avoid mistakes. So it was a great experience.
Can't wait for results. Even though, I'm scared a little. Hopefully everything will be alright. Good luck to everybody.
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3rd Class: English
Results:
Charm School students, your assignment for your English class had you exploring the concept of your post quality here on ATRL. In this forum, which is full of low quality posts, putting some time and effort into your posts can make you stand out and also build your reputation as an intelligent, clear, and logical poster. You were asked to move away from single smilies and gifs, messy drags, co-signs, and angry attacks and consider things like spelling, grammar, original thought, viewpoint, classiness, and wit. You've read through the Faculty's comments, and it's now time to reveal your rankings, along with who scored the lowest - and will be expelled from ATRL Charm School.
The names I call will be in order...with the first name being the winner of this challenge...
Let's get started...
The winner is...
1. The SeenScene
Top callout this week! Nice job, Scene. You impressed us - with 4 of the 5 judges ranking you first. Your effort this week really showed, and you deserve this win!
In 2nd place...
2. theo/Su-Barbie-A (a tie!!!)
4. NICKIMINAJ
5. CrazyCat
6. Marooner5
7. Blue
Meaning that ririfan21 and Jad are in the bottom two. Your entires failed to inspire the Faculty, and your averages showed that. But which one of you scored (slightly) higher? Let's find out...
8. Jad
Congrats, you're still enrolled in Charm School. I think this week you learned that as the game progresses, it's not just about completing the challenges, but also finding a way to stand out in the judges eyes. A little extra effort goes a long way!
9. ririfan21
Sorry to say, but this is the end of the road for you. Your entry proved confusing to the judges, and we weren't too sure what to think - 4 out of 5 judges ranked you last. I'd like to thank you for your involvement in this game, and to say that I sincerely hope you continue thinking about how to improve into a kinder, better poster. I know you have it!
The rest of you, you've made it through. Talk amongst yourselves. Your next assignment will be up shortly.
Keep it classy.
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Riri! Well if that doesn't make me feel guilt. 
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Riri! Well if that doesn't make me feel guilt. |
Why guilt?
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What a relief. I can't now relax, and enjoy the rest of the day. Sorry to see ririfan go 
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