[Regina George]

Why did you make the same post? Do you want to be the #1 or what? HUH!?

Originally posted by JungleDisturbia

I've never had more than 3 WPs at one time ever since I've been on this site so if you DO manage to get me I'll send you a 'congrats' message from ban land. Let the games begin!

I will get you banned, in fact you are



Your off topic ass can stay on topic.

Do you guys think we will get a fourth single? I think we might not because of OWOA(TK)

[MWB]

Originally posted by JungleDisturbia

Time for a family portrait! Say cheese!


Clockwise from top left: JungleDisturbia, Serendipity, Jack!, MWB, Fiss*

Regina George, ImARudeBoy, and lovely photo of Monkey + Fiss! And look at Bliss + Jack! hanging out together!

*If Fiss doesn't return from his duties then Wafflecakes is next in line.

Such a wonderful family.

A mess.

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by Regina George

Your off topic ass can stay on topic.

Do you guys think we will get a fourth single? I think we might not because of OWOA(TK) [/CENTER]

I don't see why there wouldn't be. OWOA isn't a radio single in the US (is it in the UK?) so they will certainly have time for at least one more single, if not two.

[MWB]

They Don't Know About Jesus will definitely be the final single.



I'm here for Loved You First being a single as well.

[Glam]

Originally posted by JungleDisturbia

Me.
I remember once you called me "cute and f*ckable" after seeing me on twitter.

I think I recall saying that but I don't remember what you look like. I can't even access your Twitter by clicking on your signature But yas I am part of the band's family (or the base really).

King Harry gave Jennifer Lawrence all the luck she needed for winning Best Actress! Either that or he used his clairvoyance to predict her win.

[Regina George]

Originally posted by Wafflecakes

I don't see why there wouldn't be. OWOA isn't a radio single in the US (is it in the UK?) so they will certainly have time for at least one more single, if not two.

We will probably have one more? It will probably be Last first kiss because it's a ballad and the MV will be from the tour

[Wafflecakes]

I really don't want it to be Last First Kiss...... but I guess there are worse songs.

They Don't Know About Us is my preference, though as has been stated before, it is unlikely to be a single considering that it was left off the tour set-list.

[Regina George]

They have so many potential hits but they just don't promote them

[Serendipity]

Watch Back For You be the final single

[JungleDisturbia]

Originally posted by Glam

I think I recall saying that but I don't remember what you look like. I can't even access your Twitter by clicking on your signature But yas I am part of the band's family (or the base really).

King Harry gave Jennifer Lawrence all the luck she needed for winning Best Actress! Either that or he used his clairvoyance to predict her win.

I didn't even realise my sig didn't work. It should be fixed now.

Originally posted by Regina George

They have so many potential hits but they just don't promote them

I was just looking at the album track list and no joke every song could be a single.
I want "Heart Attack" the most but I can't remember if it was on the set list, so I'll go with "C'mon C'mon" or "She's Not Afraid".

[Regina George]

Originally posted by JungleDisturbia

I was just looking at the album track list and no joke every song could be a single.
I want "Heart Attack" the most but I can't remember if it was on the set list, so I'll go with "C'mon C'mon" or "She's Not Afraid".

It's the same with Up All night but they're so busy touring all around the world

[Wafflecakes]

Well that have always had a challenge getting radio airplay for several reason. One of the big ones is that they are pure pop in a way that really NO other current act is. Their songs have no cross genre appeal to country, urban, rhythmic, dance, AC, etc which means that it is much harder for them to gain significant AI numbers. I can't think of a single other popstar who doesn't have ANY other platform that they appeal to.

Another issue is the type of pop they are. Top 40 radio is huge and diverse and for every station that plays them there is one that rarely/never does because they are trying to appeal more to the Die Young, Locked Out Of Heaven, Poker Face, etc pop crowd.... Essentially its pop that is more sex/adult centric. Those stations would never play One Direction.

This can even be seen with their big hit WMYB. Despite its huge impact it only peak at 9 or 10 on the radio charts because its demographics are unfavorable.

Of course their release schedule is a mess as well. Kiss You performances on X Factor a month before the song was even released in the states. Same with the music video. Their management getting the US and UK on different release schedules has been a catastrophe.

All is not lost though. If they can time the releases of their future singles and video's better the billboard changes will make charting in the US much easier. Sometimes the illusion of momentum is far more important than momentum itself. It would be nice if they could get out and do more promo, but its pretty much not a possibility at this point so no use really bringing it up. Not to mention that their live singing skills still leave something to be desired so I am not sure how much difference live performances would make. Hopefully they use their tour this summer as an opportunity to hit the pavement with radio stations.

[MWB]

Forget the tour, just releases singles and pretty music videos.

[NaughtyDog]

It wont be Heart Attack especially since Demi's new song has the same name and its miles better

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by MWB

Forget the tour, just releases singles and pretty music videos.

In an ideal world I would agree. However, touring is THE major source of income in the music industry nowadays. 1D have it better than most since they also have merchandising, but at the end of the day albums nowadays are more a promotional tool for tours than anything else.

[JungleDisturbia]

Originally posted by Wafflecakes

Well that have always had a challenge getting radio airplay for several reason. One of the big ones is that they are pure pop in a way that really NO other current act is. Their songs have no cross genre appeal to country, urban, rhythmic, dance, AC, etc which means that it is much harder for them to gain significant AI numbers. I can't think of a single other popstar who doesn't have ANY other platform that they appeal to.

Another issue is the type of pop they are. Top 40 radio is huge and diverse and for every station that plays them there is one that rarely/never does because they are trying to appeal more to the Die Young, Locked Out Of Heaven, Poker Face, etc pop crowd.... Essentially its pop that is more sex/adult centric. Those stations would never play One Direction.

This can even be seen with their big hit WMYB. Despite its huge impact it only peak at 9 or 10 on the radio charts because its demographics are unfavorable.

Of course their release schedule is a mess as well. Kiss You performances on X Factor a month before the song was even released in the states. Same with the music video. Their management getting the US and UK on different release schedules has been a catastrophe.

All is not lost though. If they can time the releases of their future singles and video's better the billboard changes will make charting in the US much easier. Sometimes the illusion of momentum is far more important than momentum itself. It would be nice if they could get out and do more promo, but its pretty much not a possibility at this point so no use really bringing it up. Not to mention that their live singing skills still leave something to be desired so I am not sure how much difference live performances would make. Hopefully they use their tour this summer as an opportunity to hit the pavement with radio stations.

Never been one to understand a thing about airplay, but this made complete sense. The only thing I didn't quite understand was "the illusion of momentum is far more important the momentum itself". You lost me on that part.

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by JungleDisturbia

Never been one to understand a thing about airplay, but this made complete sense. The only thing I didn't quite understand was "the illusion of momentum is far more important the momentum itself". You lost me on that part.

I worded that poorly.

What I was getting at is that because of the previous points I made they are never going to be tearing up radio. So they need to PRETEND to be. If radio thinks that you are slaying they will hop on board because they don't want to be left behind.

Essentially I am saying that they need to be smart with singles to try to get them charting high based on sales/streaming because airplay is never going to be a driving force. If they can manipulate youtube views to get top 10's that is their best shot at getting widespread radio support.



...and **** it lol. I hate saying this but they should get a radio deal. At least for the first single of their next album. Paying the $$$ needed to get 100 million free AI (ala Justin Timberlake) + their sales + music video would pretty much guarantee them a #1.

[hellocory]

Hopefully management is smart enough to release the lead single off the next album the same day as the video and get them a radio deal. With Billboard's new rules, they'd debut at #1 easy.

But this is M!M/Syco we're talking about so

[JungleDisturbia]

Originally posted by Wafflecakes

I worded that poorly.

What I was getting at is that because of the previous points I made they are never going to be tearing up radio. So they need to PRETEND to be. If radio thinks that you are slaying they will hop on board because they don't want to be left behind.

Essentially I am saying that they need to be smart with singles to try to get them charting high based on sales/streaming because airplay is never going to be a driving force. If they can manipulate youtube views to get top 10's that is their best shot at getting widespread radio support.



...and **** it lol. I hate saying this but they should get a radio deal. At least for the first single of their next album. Paying the $$$ needed to get 100 million free AI (ala Justin Timberlake) + their sales + music video would pretty much guarantee them a #1.

Oh, that definitely makes sense. A "fake it 'til you make it" policy.
The only thing is with the singles is that I feel their album sales hurt their single sales. I would much prefer that if I cared, but everyone who is going to buy these songs already has the album, you know?

So they only really have streaming/videos to support them because airplay and sales won't be fantastic.

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by JungleDisturbia

Oh, that definitely makes sense. A "fake it 'til you make it" policy.
The only thing is with the singles is that I feel their album sales hurt their single sales. I would much prefer that if I cared, but everyone who is going to buy these songs already has the album, you know?

So they only really have streaming/videos to support them because airplay and sales won't be fantastic.

Oh I agree. It is definitively harder to sell singles when you entire target audience already owns the album. However, looking at Taylor and Adele it is certainly still possible. Plus Live While Were Young didn't exactly slay the sales chart (went platinum....but barely) and it did not have that obstacle so I don't see that as being the reason that they have had struggles lately.

They do need to try to broaden their audience a but. However, I am not sure they will even try. They and their management seem content to sit on their hands making millions of dollars of 13-18 year old girls. They might be too scared of alienating their core demographic to even attempt a grab at mainstream radio.

To be perfectly honest. While I think there are songs on the album that could do well. There were never any SMASH hits on it. I don't think any amount of promotion could change that. I hope they do a bit more mainstream with their next album.