[Nerevanin]

I'm so ready for PLU now! I need some info, cover, music video director, anything.

[rivers]

Originally posted by HotDecember

I don't get why you all love Ceremonials. She sings as if she's going to cry
Stronger is a solid album and remains as Kelly's best album for me. The only two songs that should've been out are Flopping in front of you and Breaking your own flop
And honestly is life

Her voice may not be your cup of tea but the production of the album is far superior than Stronger. Kelly's voice is more captivating tho. It was probably neck and neck between Ceremonials and Stronger for pop vocal album.

[Chivas]

Ceremonials had little commercial success in the States. Not all categories require commercial success, but the pop ones definitely do.

[KevinKDC]

Let me explain it to you guys. The song hasn't done any better. The recent pop updates were deceiving. One week the song has week updates because it faced strong updates because of the week before. That's basically the songs run. One week bad updates, and the next week good updates because it overtook the week before and then the next week it gets bad again, and the week after that good again.

Saturday
Last Week: +57 Spins
This Week: +72 Spins

Sunday
Last Week: +44 Spins
This Week: +95 Spins

Monday
Last Week: -24 Spins
This Week: +65 Spins

Tuesday
Last Week: -22 Spins
This Week: +122 Spins

Wednesday
Last Week: +26 Spins
This Week: +123 Spins

Thursday
Last Week: +40 Spins
This Week: +125 Spins

Friday
Last Week: +100 Spins
This Week: -6 Spins

Conclusion: The song only receives good updates when it did poorly the week before. The spin updates simply represent how much more or less the song was played in the last week. Thursday it got played six times less then last week's Thursday (hence the -6 update).

This week we had huge updates, so that means next week we are going to get a lot of terrible updates.

Here are others on pulse explaining the situation as well (just in case you didn't understand a thing I said)

The real test will be Friday, I think. This nth wind of strong updates started last Friday, so we'll see if the song can hold up against itself. That's been its big issue--it will do well, then weak by comparison, then strong by comparison to the weak week, and so on. If it's going to make any kind of real push to the top 10, it needs these updates to continue consistently through the weekend and next week.

Tomorrow, it will be going up against a +100 update from last Friday. Today, it went up against a +40 update from last Thursday. So hopefully we don't see a -15 tomorrow or anything. I'd really love to see that it's finally breaking through rather than just looking good over a slow week.

The song won't go top 10 on pop if it continues it's run like this.

[NotTonightTho]

It's what I feared. The updates look good when they're going against last weeks meh updates but against an actual good update it's just floating



And Ceremonials is as flawless as an album can get. I'm really glad Kelly won but Florence deserved a Grammy too

[KevinKDC]

Well Kelly deserved pop vocal performance but they gave it to Adele because of her momentum. Stronger was the most successful era in that category (P!nk's and Maroon 5's were just taking of during the voting line) and they probably figured they can't let Kelly walk away empty handed. Florance would have never won. The front runner in that category was Fun..

[rivers]

I'll be satisfied with its performance when it goes platinum in a couple weeks.

[jpsketch]

Originally posted by ClinicStudent

I'm just patiently waiting for PLU official info...

I'm gonna say rull soon.

[Mhs90]

I'm hoping PLU is released in May for a summer anthem bop.

Or we can just skip it altogether and get that lead single late fall.

[MJ Boston]

Originally posted by KevinKDC

Let me explain it to you guys. The song hasn't done any better. The recent pop updates were deceiving. One week the song has week updates because it faced strong updates because of the week before. That's basically the songs run. One week bad updates, and the next week good updates because it overtook the week before and then the next week it gets bad again, and the week after that good again.

Saturday
Last Week: +57 Spins
This Week: +72 Spins

Sunday
Last Week: +44 Spins
This Week: +95 Spins

Monday
Last Week: -24 Spins
This Week: +65 Spins

Tuesday
Last Week: -22 Spins
This Week: +122 Spins

Wednesday
Last Week: +26 Spins
This Week: +123 Spins

Thursday
Last Week: +40 Spins
This Week: +125 Spins

Friday
Last Week: +100 Spins
This Week: -6 Spins

Conclusion: The song only receives good updates when it did poorly the week before. The spin updates simply represent how much more or less the song was played in the last week. Thursday it got played six times less then last week's Thursday (hence the -6 update).

This week we had huge updates, so that means next week we are going to get a lot of terrible updates.

Here are others on pulse explaining the situation as well (just in case you didn't understand a thing I said)


The song won't go top 10 on pop if it continues it's run like this.

A few things.

1.) I can't speak for everyone but I don't expect the song to go top 10 on Pop or on the Hot 100 so this isn't news. It's already exceeded my expectations so everything from this point on is gravy.

2.) This is a TOTAL glass half empty approach of looking at it. The recent pop updates aren't deceiving. A +100 spincrease is a +100 spincrease regardless of whether it's compared to the previous week's day or not. It could have just been going negative and falling, falling, falling. But overall, it's still rising. AI is still increasing and it's total spin count is still going up. So there's nothing deceiving about it. Whether it goes down and up and down and up is irrelevant so long as it's improving it's chart positions.

[EdgeOfAddiction]

The fact that Sweet Nothing is around the same spins as Kelly with more sales is giving me hope that Kelly will catch up with sales as z100 puts it into power rotation aka a higher peak. I can see it hitting top 10 on Pop.

[Mzd]

Originally posted by KevinKDC

Let me explain it to you guys. The song hasn't done any better. The recent pop updates were deceiving. One week the song has week updates because it faced strong updates because of the week before. That's basically the songs run. One week bad updates, and the next week good updates because it overtook the week before and then the next week it gets bad again, and the week after that good again.

Saturday
Last Week: +57 Spins
This Week: +72 Spins

Sunday
Last Week: +44 Spins
This Week: +95 Spins

Monday
Last Week: -24 Spins
This Week: +65 Spins

Tuesday
Last Week: -22 Spins
This Week: +122 Spins

Wednesday
Last Week: +26 Spins
This Week: +123 Spins

Thursday
Last Week: +40 Spins
This Week: +125 Spins

Friday
Last Week: +100 Spins
This Week: -6 Spins

Conclusion: The song only receives good updates when it did poorly the week before. The spin updates simply represent how much more or less the song was played in the last week. Thursday it got played six times less then last week's Thursday (hence the -6 update).

This week we had huge updates, so that means next week we are going to get a lot of terrible updates.

Here are others on pulse explaining the situation as well (just in case you didn't understand a thing I said)





The song won't go top 10 on pop if it continues it's run like this.

[EdgeOfAddiction]

Originally posted by Mzd

[KevinKDC]

Stupid people

[Mr. Know It All]

Originally posted by KevinKDC

Stupid people

Do you always address yourself in third person?

[MJ Boston]

Originally posted by KevinKDC

Stupid people

What's stupid? Is the song not increasing in AI? Is it not increasing in overall spins? It's finally crossed the 6000 spin mark.

12 11 KE$HA C'mon 7784 7255 529 54.111
13 12 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE Suit & Tie f/JAY Z 6842 6903 -61 46.499
11 13 ALICIA KEYS Girl On Fire 6676 7473 -797 41.096
15 14 KELLY CLARKSON Catch My Breath 6195 5609 586 40.312
16 15 IMAGINE DRAGONS It's Time 6155 5540 615 41.679

It may get passed by Imagine Dragons but as long as it's increasing there's no reason to call the song's updates "deceiving".

[Mr. Know It All]

Originally posted by MJ Boston

What's stupid? Is the song not increasing in AI? Is it not increasing in overall spins? It's finally crossed the 6000 spin mark.

12 11 KE$HA C'mon 7784 7255 529 54.111
13 12 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE Suit & Tie f/JAY Z 6842 6903 -61 46.499
11 13 ALICIA KEYS Girl On Fire 6676 7473 -797 41.096
15 14 KELLY CLARKSON Catch My Breath 6195 5609 586 40.312
16 15 IMAGINE DRAGONS It's Time 6155 5540 615 41.679

It may get passed by Imagine Dragons but as long as it's increasing there's no reason to call the song's updates "deceiving".

You're wrong, MJ. Don't you know to always trust the most well-known and important KC stan?

[KevinKDC]

Originally posted by Mr. Know It All

Do you always address yourself in third person?

No, I don't. And who the **** are you again?

Originally posted by MJ Boston

What's stupid? Is the song not increasing in AI? Is it not increasing in overall spins? It's finally crossed the 6000 spin mark.

12 11 KE$HA C'mon 7784 7255 529 54.111
13 12 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE Suit & Tie f/JAY Z 6842 6903 -61 46.499
11 13 ALICIA KEYS Girl On Fire 6676 7473 -797 41.096
15 14 KELLY CLARKSON Catch My Breath 6195 5609 586 40.312
16 15 IMAGINE DRAGONS It's Time 6155 5540 615 41.679

It may get passed by Imagine Dragons but as long as it's increasing there's no reason to call the song's updates "deceiving".

I wasn't talking about you. And for the record the updates are in some way deceiving, the song only receives good updates if the past updates of the latter week are bad. The song is only doing good when it had a bad week before the current week, and is only doing good when it had a bad week before hand.

It has been like this for months, hence the slow climb. The song isn't done yet but it isn't taking off either.

Originally posted by Mr. Know It All

You're wrong, MJ. Don't you know to always trust the most well-known and important KC stan?

The backhanded shade is getting old. Try something new.

[Mr. Know It All]

Originally posted by KevinKDC

No, I don't. And who the **** are you again?



I wasn't talking about you. And for the record the updates are in some way deceiving, the song only receives good updates if the past updates of the latter week are bad. The song is only doing good when it had a bad week before the current week, and is only doing good when it had a bad week before hand.

It has been like this for months, hence the slow climb. The song isn't done yet but it isn't taking off either.

Kevin, your idea isn't necessarily wrong (the verification remains to be seen), but it's a bit hard to believe what you're proposing when your track record consists of nothing but impulsive conclusions and knee-jerk reactions. That is why everyone in this base is hesitant to accept anything you say in general.

[KevinKDC]

Originally posted by Addicted

Oh we're going to see another Kevin vs Base?

nnnnnnnnn;;;

Sadly I have a life and a date, and no **** to give. So y'all can do this without me.