[Taemira]

Originally posted by Squall

Did I? I'm not the pretentious one that acts like he knows everything about how is a song nominated, don't reverse the roles please.

You did.
And i was not pretentious, i just said fact.
What makes Katy's nominations? critical acclaim? Please tell me.
Katy's nominations made people think Grammy's authority was debased.
Call Me Maybe was nominated because it was amazing enough to be able to be nominated?
Grammy started to make mainstream hit singles and albums nominated for some categories but never let them win except for some artists. It was just for making Grammy have popular appeal to GP.

[Mr. Know It All]

Originally posted by Squall

Yes sure, selling almost 3x Platinum in the US in 2012 sucks soooooooooooooo hard. Everyone sells 5M copies nowadays, poor Katy.

No one cares about her album and that is why she can smash with 8 singles from the same album.

Eight singles from a re-release (which is effectively two albums) with the best promotion money can buy?

Okay.

Thanks for trying sooooooooooo hard, though.

[2AM]

Originally posted by Mr. Know It All

It did. She was just nominated for three Grammies because of it.

And Katy's voice got her nominated 8 times.
Always winning.

[EdgeOfAddiction]

Originally posted by Squall

She is and will never be with Celine, Mariah & Whitney, just stop the delusion.

She has more power than two of the singers. More range than two of the singers. And can emote better than one of the singers. Katy cannot accomplish this feat in live or studio.

Originally posted by Squall

And btw, why are you bringing Christina? We're talking about singing not screaming.

Flamebait.

Originally posted by Squall

Since when is Kelly known for her amazing performances through the world? The GP (besides the US one) doesn't even care about her.

Never once did I mention performance. I only mentioned voice. In today's society, a performance is meant more for the eyes so of course Katy has more memorable performances with her gimmicks but vocally, she will never be in contention with Kelly.

[Squall]

Originally posted by lifeofpariah

You did.
And i was not pretentious, i just said fact.
What makes Katy's nominations? critical acclaim? Please tell me.
Katy's nominations made people think Grammy's authority was debased.
Call Me Maybe was nominated because it was amazing enough to be able to be nominated?
Grammy started to make mainstream hit singles and albums nominated for some categories but never let them win except for some artists. It was just for making Grammy have popular appeal to GP.

Let's not. You want to talk about Stronger being nominated in SOTY AND ROTY?

[supertiffany]

Legacy: something transmitted by or received from an ancestor or predecessor or from the past

So we have Demi Lovato, Miley Cyrus, Miranda Cosgrove, Selena Gomez, Carly Rose Sonenclar, Carrie Underwood, Ashley Tisdale, One Direction,

many of those young artists today inspired by Kelly Clarkson musically and sonically.


where's Katy

[esteee12]

Originally posted by Katy V.!

No it shouldn't. They werent released in the same time/music industry. Look at how your fave keeps failing to sell 2m WW.

Let's not. We have taylor swift or adele selling albums crazily and katy only able to reach 2x plat with the massive success of 8 singles. It should be more than that.

[2AM]

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction

Isn't Teenage Dream the only thing Katy has? Nothing she does in the future will come close to her achievements on TD so let's not start with the impending hypocrisy.

A debut that sold more WW and outside the US than any Kelly album sans Breakaway?
She won't fall like Kelly. Proportionally speaking, she would sell 600k WW in total. Not happening.

[Katy V.!]

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction

Isn't Teenage Dream the only thing Katy has? Nothing she does in the future will come close to her achievements on TD so let's not start with the impending hypocrisy.

OOTB is bigger than any Kelly's non-Breakaway era and IKAG is bigger WW than all Kelly's so called hits combined

[Squall]

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction

She has more power than two of the singers. More range than two of the singers. And can emote better than one of the singers. Katy cannot accomplish this feat in live or studio.
Never once did I mention performance. I only mentioned voice. In today's society, a performance is meant more for the eyes so of course Katy has more memorable performances with her gimmicks but vocally, she will never be in contention with Kelly.

I did not understand your point, what do you mean by "more powere than two of the singers" etc, are you comparing her to Mariah/Whitney/Céline? Because if you are....



It is the same thing with the voice actually so....
You're all acting like Kelly has the best voice in the world and was the GP's favorite artist while they just don't care and do not even buy her music.

[EdgeOfAddiction]

Originally posted by Kats

Kelly hasnt seen 2x Platinum since 2004 and TD will soon outsell ALL her albums sana BA in the US an WW.
Barely any effort?
Stays winning with flop after flop and one successful era?
Why are you even trying?
Nnnnnnnnn;

nnn; at eople who can't defend without resorting to nonsensical questions.

10 years into her career and still selling #1 albums and singles. Come back when Katy has that sort of longevity.

[Taemira]

Originally posted by Squall

Let's not. You want to talk about Stronger being nominated in SOTY AND ROTY?

Stronger has both good reviews by critics and success by GP

[Squall]

Originally posted by Kats

A debut that sold more WW and outside the US than any Kelly album sans Breakaway?
She won't fall like Kelly. Proportionally speaking, she would sell 600k WW in total. Not happening.

My God, I can't at him acting like Katy had 10 albums.

[Mr. Know It All]

Originally posted by Squall

I did not understand your point, what do you mean by "more powere than two of the singers" etc, are you comparing her to Mariah/Whitney/Céline? Because if you are....



It is the same thing with the voice actually so....
You're all acting like Kelly has the best voice in the world and was the GP's favorite artist while they just don't care and do not even buy her music.

Please read before you post.

[Squall]

Originally posted by lifeofpariah

Stronger has both good reviews by critics and success by GP

While being basic and similar to what Kelly usually does, it is not better than a song like CMM.

[EdgeOfAddiction]

Originally posted by Kats

A debut that sold more WW and outside the US than any Kelly album sans Breakaway?
She won't fall like Kelly. Proportionally speaking, she would sell 600k WW in total. Not happening.

ffff;

She better use the lesbian anthem to her advantage. And you best highlight WW cuz Kelly's debut shat all over OOTB in the US.

Originally posted by Squall

I did not understand your point

Not my problem. ATRL is an English heavy music forum. Maybe you wouldn't be so misguided if you understood what I wrote.

Originally posted by Katy V.!

OOTB is bigger than any Kelly's non-Breakaway era and IKAG is bigger WW than all Kelly's so called hits combined

And according to you Kelly had no hits before 2009 and Katy was doing pop music before Kelly. Everything you say is INVALID.

[Squall]

Originally posted by Mr. Know It All

Please read before you post.

And please don't post next time if you want to post something as useless as this.

[Mr. Know It All]

Originally posted by Squall

While being basic and similar to what Kelly usually does, it is not better than a song like CMM.

You're right. Part of Me, Wide Awake, etc., were much more groundbreaking.

Originally posted by Squall

And please don't post next time if you want to post something as useless as this.

[2AM]

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction

nnn; at eople who can't defend without resorting to nonsensical questions.

10 years into her career and still selling #1 albums and singles. Come back when Katy has that sort of longevity.

nnn; at you getting your weave snatcheD and no proper response.
6 years into hers and Katy has already sold more records than Kelly her decade old "career" if that's what you call it.

[Squall]

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction

nnn; at eople who can't defend without resorting to nonsensical questions.

10 years into her career and still selling #1 albums and singles. Come back when Katy has that sort of longevity.

Her last #1 album was in 2009, My December & Stronger did not top the BB200 and her two last singles flopped so how is it the case?