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Discussion: Did Christina wait too long?
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Originally posted by atrlster
This couldn't be further from reality
The difference with Britney is that she released twice the amount of albums in the same span as Christina did
And Britney's image was already pretty damaged by the time. Her break just sealed the deal in ruining her reputation for good, but yet, at the same time, it kept her in the spotlight. She had more publicity and media attention in that time than most people who release albums.
Britney didn't recover because she was "sweet". She recovered because she basically never left the exposure of the public eye. Britney supposedly being "sweet" has nothing to do with this :lmao
And that thing about Mary J Blige is when she was still severely mentally messed up and on drugs/alcohol. She misinterpreted something, and Christina and her are fine now. She even asked Christina to perform at her charity benefits.
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Don't you recall Christina's breakdown? Was it covered by the media? No one gave a *****. Not in the same way they did for Britney. Why? Because everybody knows Xtina is a bitter lady.
Britney didn't recover because she's sweet, her sweetness and humbleness is what draws millions of people into rooting for her. Through her ups and down, she has millions of people who have her back. If Xtina shaved her head and went through what Britney went through, I doubt people would still root for her. Let alone buy her albums... not that they do now ANYWAY.
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Originally posted by LoveMe4Me
your whole post is off topic!
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You need some comprehension lessons, then.
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Bionic was pretty much her flop album... but I think she can put herself back up there she just needs to work on it. 2007-2010 was her break when everyone forgot about her...I felt her comeback was flat that was her mistake.
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Originally posted by Louie
Don't you recall Christina's breakdown? Was it covered by the media? No one gave a *****. Not in the same way they did for Britney. Why? Because everybody knows Xtina is a bitter lady.
Britney didn't recover because she's sweet, her sweetness and humbleness is what draws millions of people into rooting for her. Through her ups and down, she has millions of people who have her back. If Xtina shaved her head and went through what Britney went through, I doubt people would still root for her. Let alone buy her albums... not that they do now ANYWAY.
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Eh, I think the whole "Xtina isn't popular because of her attitude" argument is just something used by online stans. I can bet that the majority of the general public doesn't know and/or doesn't care about her "attitude". Britney is bigger now because Britney was ALWAYS more popular and was the bigger overall star since the beginning. There have been plenty of stars who are known for not being humble/sweet and have managed to have long careers with success.
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Originally posted by DanceForYou
Eh, I think the whole "Xtina isn't popular because of her attitude" argument is just something used by online stans. I can bet that the majority of the general public doesn't know and/or doesn't care about her "attitude". Britney is bigger now because Britney was ALWAYS more popular and was the bigger overall star since the beginning. There have been plenty of stars who are known for not being humble/sweet and have managed to have long careers with success.
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Totally agree. That kind of stuff is barely covered by the mainstream media. Nobody in the GP knows or cares. Online stans just like to use that as an excuse, even though all of that stuff about "attitude" is completely false, and anything else was just in response.
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Originally posted by Louie
Don't you recall Christina's breakdown? Was it covered by the media? No one gave a *****. Not in the same way they did for Britney. Why? Because everybody knows Xtina is a bitter lady.
Britney didn't recover because she's sweet, her sweetness and humbleness is what draws millions of people into rooting for her. Through her ups and down, she has millions of people who have her back. If Xtina shaved her head and went through what Britney went through, I doubt people would still root for her. Let alone buy her albums... not that they do now ANYWAY.
You need some comprehension lessons, then.
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I see you're still living in 2000. Stop! It's not a popularity contest GROW UP! You came into this thread just to throw shade. Britney has noting to do with this. When did Christina have a mental breakdown? Almost drop her baby? Go to rehab? You are trying way too hard! Every time X screwed up people like you where there to hate and criticize so cut it out! You need to stay away from ATRL and it's influence for a while go and experience the GP.
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Member Since: 8/22/2010
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Originally posted by Louie
Don't you recall Christina's breakdown? Was it covered by the media? No one gave a *****. Not in the same way they did for Britney. Why? Because everybody knows Xtina is a bitter lady.
Britney didn't recover because she's sweet, her sweetness and humbleness is what draws millions of people into rooting for her. Through her ups and down, she has millions of people who have her back. If Xtina shaved her head and went through what Britney went through, I doubt people would still root for her. Let alone buy her albums... not that they do now ANYWAY.
You need some comprehension lessons, then.
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I don't recall Christina having a breakdown. Like DanceForYou and I just said, nobody except online people care about this supposed "attitude". It's not real anyway. If attitude determined failure, Chris Brown and Kanye West would not be here today. And their attitude problems are actually real and well known in the media.
People were not rooting back then for Britney. Talk about rewriting history LOL If people were rooting for her so hard for her back then, the backlash would not have been as intense. Don't you remember people were placing bets on when they thought she would pass away? Besides her hardcore fans, people were not rooting for her.
And bragging about more people rooting for Britney shaving her head than other divas shaving their heads is too ridiculous to get into lol
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Originally posted by DanceForYou
Eh, I think the whole "Xtina isn't popular because of her attitude" argument is just something used by online stans. I can bet that the majority of the general public doesn't know and/or doesn't care about her "attitude". Britney is bigger now because Britney was ALWAYS more popular and was the bigger overall star since the beginning. There have been plenty of stars who are known for not being humble/sweet and have managed to have long careers with success.
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Good point.
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Possibly. Now that I'm looking through her discography, she may have at least had a fighting chance had 'Bionic' been released 2 years after B2B rather 4. I do believe that right there was the end of her career, musically.
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Originally posted by atrlster
I don't recall Christina having a breakdown. Like DanceForYou and I just said, nobody except online people care about this supposed "attitude". It's not real anyway. If attitude determined failure, Chris Brown and Kanye West would not be here today. And their attitude problems are actually real and well known in the media.
People were not rooting back then for Britney. Talk about rewriting history LOL If people were rooting for her so hard for her back then, the backlash would not have been as intense. Don't you remember people were placing bets on when they thought she would pass away? Besides her hardcore fans, people were not rooting for her.
And bragging about more people rooting for Britney shaving her head than other divas shaving their heads is too ridiculous to get into lol
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Obviously the press was bad. That's like DUH. However she always had people generally rooting for her and feeling bad. You cannot make a point by using the terrible things TABLOIDS wrote aka not normal folks. Also many celebrities were supporting her as well.
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Originally posted by LoveMe4Me
I see you're still living in 2000. Stop! It's not a popularity contest GROW UP! You came into this thread just to throw shade. Britney has noting to do with this. When did Christina have a mental breakdown? Almost drop her baby? Go to rehab? You are trying way too hard! Every time X screwed up people like you where there to hate and criticize so cut it out! You need to stay away from ATRL and it's influence for a while go and experience the GP.
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Lol google Christina's mugshot. And Britney slipping with Sean was not her fault. Any child neglect was continually refuted by the respective services who visited her home on those nasty allegations. And so what she went to rehab. Xtina needed it to getting arrested on one of her many drinker nights.
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Yes, she needed to capitalize on her singles success and growing fame as an opportunity to release a sophomore album as soon as her first era was done.
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I mean maybe Stripped should have been out in 2001 instead but in all honesty I think the bigger issues lie in the fact that Back to Basics wasn't released in 2005, that Bionic wasn't released in 2008 or at the very least 2009, and that Lotus was released 2 years instead of 1 year after Bionic.
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But to be OT. It's a mix of the lengths, the lack of quality in the albums that took so long to make and her off putting attitude. It is very true that GP can measure one's likability and that's something Christina always lacked. She's bitchy when she speaks, delusional in text interviews and horrible body language in public. Very off putting and diva-ish when she isn't that talented or amassed any kind of high respect to have such a character. That's why only her fans applaud how she acts, while the rest the world laughs or rolls their eyes.
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Yes but we prob wouldn't have stripped
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Lol google Christina's mugshot. And Britney slipping with Sean was not her fault. Any child neglect was continually refuted by the respective services who visited her home on those nasty allegations. And so what she went to rehab. Xtina needed it to getting arrested on one of her many drinker nights.
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But Christina actually didn't actually do anything. She just happened to be a passenger in the car of a drunk driver. If she had actually done something wrong, they would have prosecuted her, but they didn't.
And Britney almost dropping her baby may have been an accident, but her driving with her baby on her lap was no accident.
And what do you mean there was no truth to those allegations? Why do you think she had her kids taken away and sole custody was given to K-Fed? Why do you think she was taken away in an ambulance? If people thought she had the ability to be a parent at the time, none of that would have happened
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Obviously the press was bad. That's like DUH. However she always had people generally rooting for her and feeling bad. You cannot make a point by using the terrible things TABLOIDS wrote aka not normal folks. Also many celebrities were supporting her as well.
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It wasn't just the tabloids, it was the general media against her. Where is the proof that more people generally were supportive than not? Cause from what I remember, there were much more people celebrating her downfall than feeling sorry for her.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
But to be OT. It's a mix of the lengths, the lack of quality in the albums that took so long to make and her off putting attitude. It is very true that GP can measure one's likability and that's something Christina always lacked. She's bitchy when she speaks, delusional in text interviews and horrible body language in public. Very off putting and diva-ish when she isn't that talented or amassed any kind of high respect to have such a character. That's why only her fans applaud how she acts, while the rest the world laughs or rolls their eyes.
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Not true at all. Like I said if that was the case, so many people who are seen as "unlikeable" would not be doing well. Read my post above, DanceForYou, and even that other Britney fan agreeing, the the GP doesn't know/doesn't care about this alleged "attitude". Even if you feel she comes off badly, most people don't know/care about it. This is just something online stans try to come up with, almost naively ("Oh, her attitude is bad, no wonder she's not successful")
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
But to be OT. It's a mix of the lengths, the lack of quality in the albums that took so long to make and her off putting attitude. It is very true that GP can measure one's likability and that's something Christina always lacked. She's bitchy when she speaks, delusional in text interviews and horrible body language in public. Very off putting and diva-ish when she isn't that talented or amassed any kind of high respect to have such a character. That's why only her fans applaud how she acts, while the rest the world laughs or rolls their eyes.
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Most delusional statement I have ever read.
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The only mistake she made was not striking with "Keeps Getting Better" in 08' and following with an album. She lost touch for to long and when she came out with NMT and it sounded like it should have been done in 08'.
Then when she was on The Voice, she failed to do anything with it. She's still respected in the industry regardless of what any one on ATRL says about her, and she still holds status. ATRL =/= The Music Industry/GP
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No. She actually released it on the right time. I think she released a spanish album between her first and second. Plus the singles of Christina Aguilera was really doing well in the US.
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