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Poll: Does Race Still Matter In The Pop Industry?
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View Poll Results: Does it?
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Yes.
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62.96% |
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No.
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37.04% |
Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Originally posted by Lil Misty
I'm talking about pop music listeners, 35 year old soccer moms don't listen to pop music.
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Do you not comprehend what I'm talking about? RACE is UNIVERSIAL. This thread is about RACE in POP MUSIC.
Like I said, just by image, a 35 year old White mother would (JUST BY the IMAGE) prefer to take her child to a concert of a White teen pop artist than a Black one.
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Originally posted by Lil Misty
Because the childs more KEYWORD------------->SEXUALLY<--------KEYWORD attracted to the white artist  |
Well yes. But why is the question. And that is the crux of the argument.
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Originally posted by Lil Misty
Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Britney Spears, Jessie J  |
I doubt that. Yea, people might say the white popstar has better or worse music than..let's say Britney Spears
But if you have a black female popstar, everyone's threatened that she'll replace the current huge black female popstar (i.e when Rita Ora came out the media hopped on Rita-Rihanna comparisons to death). The issue with race is not that people hate blacks or are racist, but they subconciously go through the mind process of comparing the new black artist with the current few top black artists out there. If she doesnt match up, she wont get that much attention
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Originally posted by Mhs90
If a black female artist debuts her new music today, she will be INSTANTLY compared to Rihanna and Beyonce. If she doesnt match up, audience will lose interest and the artist will easily flop in selling
A white female popstar? I dont think so
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True.
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Originally posted by shanners
That album would have never seen the light....
The executive would have demanded her to straighten her hair get "appropriate" arm-pit length hair extensions...
The ki is that was just for her to get the recording contract......
Ain't no way a record label gonna have a ethnic person looking eithnic.....
It does not sell and because you don't want to look "hard, tuff, intimating" like wtf is a girl with a poof gone do to you smh......
This is why I'm going into marketing the crap we put in the mind of kids at a young age affects our perceptions of race and culture in the long run for the worst.
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Exactly. Beyoncé and Rihanna are light skin with that GOOD GOOD remy in their hair. It's just a different situation.
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Originally posted by fortheloveofmusic
Now Deemy you was on a roll 
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Diamonds on iTunes #*****yorace
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There's a reason why Mariah, Leona and Jordin Sparks straightened their hair after they made it big.
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Originally posted by fortheloveofmusic
Now Deemy you was on a roll
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Originally posted by liferekindled
So true, Frank Ocean just said that if you're black in America, you're an R&B artist.
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Exactly, if a white female artist decides to do rap or r&b theyre praised limitlessly
If a black female popstar decides to venture out and do rock, ppl would say "what da fck is she doing?". It's all about stereotypical expectations of the music industry
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Originally posted by shanners
This is why I'm going into marketing the crap we put in the mind of kids at a young age affects our perceptions of race and culture in the long run for the worst.
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Me too. It's a mess.
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Nah. Rihanna is way more successful than Katy, Ke$ha, Nicki, etc.
It depends on the music.
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Originally posted by Mhs90
Exactly, if a white female artist decides to do rap or r&b theyre praised limitlessly
If a black female popstar decides to venture out and do rock, ppl would say "what da fck is she doing?". It's all about stereotypical expectations of the music industry
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They not gonna say what the **** is she doing? They just wont buy it. Did u think white ppl knew who Janelle Monae if it wasnt for Fun. They probably still dont. 
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Originally posted by liferekindled
There's a reason why Mariah, Leona and Jordin Sparks straightened their hair after they made it big. |
True. But when Le was on a roll, she had curls in the spirit era, it's only recently she has the straight weave (it doesn't suit her tbh).
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It's also very interesting that the majority of people voting no just happen to be White.
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Also why is it that we only have room for ONE female rap star (nicki minaj, and she's even pop-washed) but we can have several white girls doing electro-pop (lady gaga, britney spears, kesha) or pop rock (kelly clarkson, pink)
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The music is interesting though. If you're black and go generic it doesn't work. But being white and generic works, and pop at that.
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Originally posted by Clump
Nah. Rihanna is way more successful than Katy, Ke$ha, Nicki, etc.
It depends on the music.
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Right, because only a FEW black female artists are allowed on the top selling platform at a time. Any new acts must be compared to Rihanna/Beyonce to be put on that platform
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Originally posted by Willy.
It's also very interesting that the majority of people voting no just happen to be White.
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Well of course. If they were black, they momma need to give them a hiding.
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Originally posted by Mhs90
Also why is it that we only have room for ONE female rap star (nicki minaj, and she's even pop-washed) but we can have several white girls doing electro-pop (lady gaga, britney spears, kesha) or pop rock (kelly clarkson, pink)
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It's gonna be hard for dark-skinned Azealia.
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Originally posted by Sláy
The music is interesting though. If you're black and go generic it doesn't work. But being white and generic works, and pop at that.
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THIS
A black girl can be amazing at r&b, but "whatever, thats just expected"
A white girl can come out and rehash any old pop music (ahem, Kesha lol) and still sell well
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