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News: School bans teen's 16-inch Mohawk
Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Sweatpants and flip fops are hardly distracting to the average person and won't stop anyone from focusing in class.
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They're disgusting and I don't like looking at people's gross feet. Luckily I can ignore them, just like I can ignore the mohawk after the initial shock. 
And didn't you just say this:
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You have to present yourself a certain way in any environment. You can't go to a job with that hairstyle, just like you can't go to an interview with your pants sagging, which could also be a form of individuality. A school setting has rules, and if they find something like that distracting, then I don't see what the problem is.
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Well guess what? You have to present yourself a certain way in any environment. You can't go to a job with flip-flops, just like you can't go to an interview with sweatpants.
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Member Since: 6/25/2010
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Originally posted by YSL
They're disgusting and I don't like looking at people's gross feet. Luckily I can ignore them, just like I can ignore the mohawk after the initial shock.
And didn't you just say this:
Well guess what? You have to present yourself a certain way in any environment. You can't go to a job with flip-flops, just like you can't go to an interview with sweatpants. |
You didn't prove a point or anything. The second part of what you said is agreeing to what Cap10 said?
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by YSL
They're disgusting and I don't like looking at people's gross feet. Luckily I can ignore them, just like I can ignore the mohawk after the initial shock.
And didn't you just say this:
Well guess what? You have to present yourself a certain way in any environment. You can't go to a job with flip-flops, just like you can't go to an interview with sweatpants. |
YOU find it gross, but one individual's opinion can't set rules. Usually, it's a collective sort of thing.
And what point are you making with the second part of your post?  If a job doesn't allow flip-flops and sweatpants for whatever reasons, then I don't see the issue. It's not business attire. But you would be hard pressed to get something like sweatpants and flip-flops banned in school that allows casual dressing that isn't distracting. It's not the same thing as wearing a hurricane on top of your heard.
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Originally posted by Dancehall Queen
You didn't prove a point or anything. The second part of what you said is agreeing to what Cap10 said?
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Right.
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Member Since: 6/25/2010
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Anyway, last year's handbook for the school states:
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The standards of appearance for students shall insure that the students are clean, neat, and properly dressed. They shall observe modes of dress and standards of personal grooming which are appropriate for the academic environment. It is the responsibility of the principal to see that the dress appearance of any student shall not be extreme, to the point of creating a disturbance, or be hazardous to the student and/or others, or school property, whether or not the specific case is covered by the information below
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Any school has that disclaimer and both the kid and his mother probably signed off on it. I don't really think a debate on individuality can be made here, it's not like they're saying everyone has to have the same haircut or no mohawks allowed, the height is just extreme and inappropriate for school.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by Dancehall Queen
You didn't prove a point or anything. The second part of what you said is agreeing to what Cap10 said?
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
YOU find it gross, but one individual's opinion can't set rules. Usually, it's a collective sort of thing.
And what point are you making with the second point of your post? If a job doesn't allow flip-flops and sweatpants for whatever reasons, then I don't see the issue. It's not business attire. But you would be hard pressed to get something like sweatpants and flip-flops banned in school that allows casual dressing that isn't distracting. It's not the same thing as wearing a hurricane on top of your heard.
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The point, which you both obviously missed, is that you can't control what people can and cannot wear just because YOU don't like it or because YOU find it distracting. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about presentation but it's really none of my concern what people do with their bodies. 
Like I said, after the initial shock of seeing that hideous hairdo, you pretty much ignore it. It loses its shock value pretty quick.
Maybe I'm just better at ignoring things but if I were a student in that school, I wouldn't even think twice about it.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by YSL
The point, which you both obviously missed, is that you can't control what people can and cannot wear just because YOU don't like it or because YOU find it distracting. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about presentation but it's really none of my concern what people do with their bodies.
Like I said, after the initial shock of seeing that hideous hairdo, you pretty much ignore it. It loses its shock value pretty quick.
Maybe I'm just better at ignoring things but if I were a student in that school, I wouldn't even think twice about it. |
Of course a school (or any setting) can control what one can and cannot wear. This is where rules come in, dude.
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Member Since: 6/25/2010
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Originally posted by YSL
The point, which you both obviously missed, is that you can't control what people can and cannot wear just because YOU don't like it or because YOU find it distracting. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about presentation but it's really none of my concern what people do with their bodies.
Like I said, after the initial shock of seeing that hideous hairdo, you pretty much ignore it. It loses its shock value pretty quick.
Maybe I'm just better at ignoring things but if I were a student in that school, I wouldn't even think twice about it. |
How do you think he gets in his classes? Don't you imagine that creates a scene for every class of the day, maybe even wasting a few minutes a teacher could use to teach? Do you think the ceiling every where accommodates to the height of his hair? Just think about how it is for practical reasons.
I'M not regulating this kid's hair, the school has every right to though and the same rules apply to all his classmates.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Of course a school (or any setting) can control what one can and cannot wear. This is where rules come in, dude.
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Of course they can, I was once told I couldn't wear a pink polo years ago in HS because it was "distracting" - does that make it right, dude?  I'd understand if his hair were horizontal and covering people's view, like an afro or Gaga's hair sun for example. 
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Originally posted by Dancehall Queen
How do you think he gets in his classes? Don't you imagine that creates a scene for every class of the day, maybe even waisting a few minutes a teacher could use to teach? Do you think the ceiling every where accommodates to the height of his hair? Just think about how it is for practical reasons.
I'M not regulating this kid's hair, the school has every right to though and the same rules apply to all his classmates.
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Okay, his hair is NOT that big. Hair, even with that much product, bends against something as solid as a door way or a ceiling, even if were that big. It's not like he gets stuck and has to be pushed through. And if any ceiling is that low, you have bigger problems. 
Like I said before, after the initial shock of seeing it, I'm sure no one even cares that much. If something distracts you that much, you're going to have a tough life.
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Member Since: 1/29/2012
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I agree with YSL. I feel like people should be able to do whatever they want just so long as they don't hurt anybody else in the process. Because something may be distracting to others shouldn't be reason enough to ban it. The world is FULL of distractions. You can't obliterate everything that differentiates from the norm just because it might keep someone else from focusing on their work.
Besides, if a student really wants to make an effort to pay attention, one of their peers' hairstyles isn't going to stand in their way. People are not going to be sitting in class staring slack-jawed and wide-eyed at his hair. No way. And if they are, then I think that's their problem -- it's not that hard to exercise a little self-control.
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Member Since: 4/12/2012
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I don't like the hairstyle.. but he should be able to express himself how he sees fit. He's not wearing clothing with profanity, he's not doing anything wrong. He should be able to wear that hairstyle if he wants!
Schools always have double standards. I remember going into the office to run an errand one day, and the people in the office were complimenting this girl on her dress, which had slits up to her thigh, yet another boy walked by with baggy pants, and they were making him wear rope around his pants to hold them up.
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Member Since: 6/25/2010
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Originally posted by YSL
Okay, his hair is NOT that big. Hair, even with that much product, bends against something as solid as a door way or a ceiling, even if were that big. It's not like he gets stuck and has to be pushed through. And if any ceiling is that low, you have bigger problems.
Like I said before, after the initial shock of seeing it, I'm sure no one even cares that much. If something distracts you that much, you're going to have a tough life. |
He would be approaching seven and a half feet if he's average height.  But I do take back half of my comment as I saw a video of the kid, he seems really nice and said no teacher ever said anything/it hasn't caused disruptions.
But I still think the school is still able and has the right to require him to not have that extreme hair style at school.
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Member Since: 5/28/2010
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Originally posted by U4EA
I agree with YSL. I feel like people should be able to do whatever they want just so long as they don't hurt anybody else in the process. Because something may be distracting to others shouldn't be reason enough to ban it. The world is FULL of distractions. You can't obliterate everything that differentiates from the norm just because it might keep someone else from focusing on their work. |
Too bad this is school and not the outside world. Schools have rules and regulations for the benefit of the students. So obviously if the other students find it distracting, the school will enforce their rules.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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These people don't seem to realise the school is doing them a favour and preparing them for later life. When you go out into the real world with your 16 inch mohawk where the hell do you think you are going to get a job except for some backstreet tattoo parlour? There is a time and a place for this ****.
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Member Since: 10/27/2010
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They Can wrap a condom around it. It's even longer than mine.
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Member Since: 10/12/2010
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But waiT.... he look old  there is no way he is 17...
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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I wonder how he needs to enters doors and xars and such .. How will he keep it in perfext shape...
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Member Since: 1/29/2012
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Originally posted by Deuces.
Too bad this is school and not the outside world. Schools have rules and regulations for the benefit of the students. So obviously if the other students find it distracting, the school will enforce their rules.
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Too bad the fact that a rule or regulation is implemented doesn't necessarily mean it deserves to be. And I love how you forgot to quote the part of my post that countered your point -- do you really think this kid's peers will be sitting in class staring slack-jawed and wide-eyed at his hair? If your child told you the reason they failed math last semester was because some boy in their class had a 16-inch mohawk, would that make their grade acceptable to you? It's a stupid excuse.
What if a plethora of students went and complained about an obese pupil's weight, calling it a distraction and things of that nature? Should the school "enforce their rules" by banning the student till he or she has slimmed down? It's asinine to try to control what individuals wear or how they look. The "too distracting" argument has never washed with me because it's more often than not just administration trying to remove what they deem to be eyesores, or people being ignorant and complaining about anything that's different or that makes them uncomfortable. If a person's HAIRDO is compromising another person's ability to concentrate, then oy vey... too bad.
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Member Since: 9/6/2012
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That's his individuality.
They should not prevent him from being who he is.
We're not here to please the whole world.
Some people will love your style, some won't.
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Member Since: 4/20/2011
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Good. I'm all for freedom of expression but when you're blocking the vision of students behind you it's gotta go.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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ffffffffffffff
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