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Poll: Is Adele/Michael Buble's genres the most profitable?
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View Poll Results: What do you think?
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Yes
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King Michael Buble 
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Originally posted by Liberdade mi amor
tour potential and Rihanna in the same sentence... really?
I really think Adele could destroy Rihanna in terms of touring.. I bet more people would be willing to see Adele , than Rihanna.
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Last year (New York and Chigaco concerts) the tickets for Adele went up to 5.000$ at Ebay
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Originally posted by Duca
U2 are equal to or stronger than Madonna when it comes to touring though. They're on another level. They've also had lucrative merchandise sales, especially Bono, who makes lots of money outside of music. Elton does over 100 shows each tour, including another 100 shows in Las Vegas. He's also a successful movie producer (his latest movie grossed $300 million.)
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Bono and Elton  So much money. Doesn't Elton also have one of the biggest Broadway show there is?
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Originally posted by ABEL
You really sound.. for the lack of word, stupid right now.
Iconic and Buble rightly fits. No one cares about him or his genre? 7 million people who bought Crazy Love do and I happen to have a copy as well.
Usher is not iconic.
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I'm sorry, but you are totally deluded if you think that Buble will be remembered for eternity like the icons and legends. His record sales are impressive and consistent, but that doesn't make you an icon.
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Originally posted by Lararen
LOL what? Buble is iconic but usher is not? That makes no sense.
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I don't think Usher is known outside of the US, and the UK (this maybe a stretch)
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Originally posted by Crazytowel
I'm sorry, but you are totally deluded if you think that Buble will be remembered for eternity like the icons and legends. His record sales are impressive and consistent, but that doesn't make you an icon.
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Buble will be iconic, and will be remembered the same way Frank Sinatra is. He will not be iconic in a sense that Michael Jackson is iconic. They are two different things. Buble will be iconic.
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Originally posted by ABEL
I don't think Usher is known outside of the US, and the UK (this maybe a stretch)
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Most of the people in the United States know who Usher is though that can't be said for Michael he has a very specific demographic outside of that no one knows who he is.
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Originally posted by ABEL
Buble will be iconic, and will be remembered the same way Frank Sinatra is. He will not be iconic in a sense that Michael Jackson is iconic. They are two different things. Buble will be iconic. |
Buble will be revered in his niche, but I can't see it going beyond that tbh. Only time will tell though I guess.
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Originally posted by Liberdade mi amor
I ll give her kudos for smashing with her album even in 2012 with no promo... but as I said she achieved the 'phenomenon' status , which is massive promo , in 2011 after she had lots of promo. Either way , her success is unprecedented [for a contemporary music diva]
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Of course. The phenomenon status/hype + Grammys helped her a lot, but those didn't cost her label a penny. I was solely refering to the promotion that costs money, since profit is the topic at hand. 
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Originally posted by Lararen
Most of the people in the United States know who Usher is though that can't be said for Michael he has a very specific demographic outside of that no one knows who he is.
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 You realize that Michael Buble is Canadian? That make the US his international market too. And ALL of his studio albums sold more than 2 million copies in the US. You're ignorant for saying his demographic is specific. His demographic is BIGGER than Usher's, Bieber's, and all the other male pop stars combined Michael Buble will be timeless and iconic like Tony Bennett is iconic right now.
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Originally posted by Crazytowel
Notice that I said Adele couldn't live up to 3 of the artists I mentioned. I mentioned 4 artists  |
Because she doesn't need to tour She's so successful that she doesn't need to tour. Even her Concert DVD is slaying. 
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Originally posted by Crazytowel
Buble will be revered in his niche, but I can't see it going beyond that tbh. Only time will tell though I guess.
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Buble's niche is jazz/big band I accept that, but he IS a bigger jazz/big band icon than Usher is a pop icon.
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Originally posted by Lararen
LOL what? Buble is iconic but usher is not? That makes no sense.
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LOL he's deluded. Ask him to name one performance or video by buble which is ICONIC (Britney and Beyonce standard iconic, not remembered)
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Originally posted by Tsuko
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But is he consistent? After Yeah! and the Confessions album, how did he do in Europe?
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Originally posted by GoodMusicLover
Of course. The phenomenon status/hype + Grammys helped her a lot, but those didn't cost her label a penny. I was solely refering to the promotion that costs money, since profit is the topic at hand. |
Exactly. This is the promotion that not even Gaga will be able to buy. This is the highest level of promotion right there.
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Originally posted by Tsuko
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Sure, he was the biggest male star in 2004 in europe, but only for the confession era.
No hits after this, at least in Germany.
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Originally posted by Signs
LOL he's deluded. Ask him to name one performance or video by buble which is ICONIC (Britney and Beyonce standard iconic, not remembered) |
BEING ICONIC is NOT just about performances. Buble is iconic as a whole artist. His voice, his talent, his songs
That's the problem with Beyonce, Gaga stans. Every performance is "iconic".
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Originally posted by Tsuko
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Michael sold more albums (both released seven albums) and his tours grossed far more. His music isn’t radio-friendly, so he obviously lacks hit singles. He beats him in everything else.
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Originally posted by ABEL
Buble's niche is jazz/big band I accept that, but he IS a bigger jazz/big band icon than Usher is a pop icon.
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I agree, but I guess that's down to luck and the nature of his field. Jazz music is pretty immobile, it's been frozen in time to sound a certain way indefinitely. He doesn't have to reinvent himself in the same way that Pop and RnB stars have. Also Buble has practically no competition, and he doesn't have to worry about radio at all, which most other stars are at the mercy of (including Adele).
It's all very easy for Buble, and the only thing that will damn him is if the market changes, which is surprisingly not happening just yet.
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Originally posted by ABEL
That's true, but I'm kind of talking about how fast and how feasible is it to get profits. I mean you have Gaga pulling all these numbers, but they've got a HUGE list of bills to pay before the label, and before Gaga is even paid.
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Gaga and other popstars still make more money though, according to forbes anyway.
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Originally posted by Duca
Michael sold more albums (both released seven albums) and his tours grossed far more. His music isn’t radio-friendly, so he obviously lacks hit singles. He beats him in everything else.
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^ This.
Why are we even comparing Usher to Buble? They're not even each other's competition
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Originally posted by Maneater
Gaga and other popstars still make more money though, according to forbes anyway.
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Gaga earned $90 million, and Buble earned $70 million.. no big difference, but only the fact that Buble is not as hyped and as in your face as Gaga is.
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