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Poll: Greatest Cultural Impact: Madonna vs Beatles vs MJ vs ABBA
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Madonna 
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47 |
20.17% |
Beatles 
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90 |
38.63% |
Michael Jackson 
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83 |
35.62% |
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ABBA
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5.58% |
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Welp, it's undeniable that Madonna's influence on other pop singers is greater than that of ABBA, but in a case of, "cultural impact", Dancing Queen has had more of it than Madge herself. Of course if you live in Mexico or Russia, your answer could be different.
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Wtf? 
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
No.
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She's still the best selling female artist of the Soundscan era 
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ABBA has had more musical impact than Madonna. J/s. 
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The Beatles have sold more albums since the beginning of the Soundscan era than Madonna and Michael combined.
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Originally posted by ImpressiveInstant
And that's their cultural impact? Great song of course, but |
A lot more actually. There's Mama Mia which inspired on the production of a certain Broadway Film. There's also Chiquitita which was used for a certain movie if I could recall. There's the Winner Takes It All song and a whole lot more. Dancing Queen was even one of the greatest gay anthem in history. Though ABBA was not quite big in the US but WW they were the most successful pop co-ed group that paved the way to a lot of pop groups of today, take One Direction as a modern example 
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I would have to say MJ by an inch over The Beatles. The Beatles might have changed music, but MJ's impact went beyond music.
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Originally posted by mariska
Wtf? |
One example of Madge's CULTURAL IMPACT that rivals that of ABBA.
GO!
And I never fib, so I'm already sure your response will be highly amusing.
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Welp, it's undeniable that Madonna's influence on other pop singers is greater than that of ABBA, but in a case of, "cultural impact", Dancing Queen has had more of it than Madge herself. Of course if you live in Mexico or Russia, your answer could be different.
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Well, it's a song that everyone knows of course.
So is "What's Up", by 4 Non Blondes.
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Originally posted by ClassicMainstream
I would have to say MJ by an inch over The Beatles. The Beatles might have changed music, but MJ's impact went beyond music.
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And the Beatles' didn't? 
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
The Beatles have sold more albums since the beginning of the Soundscan era than Madonna and Michael Jackson put together.
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I was considering writing an entire work-up on the history of music to explain just how influential the Beatles are.. but no. I decided against it.
It's hard to describe what The Beatles have done for music. The industry didn't really exist until they came around.
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Originally posted by tell_me_a_lie
A lot more actually. There's Mama Mia which inspired on the production of a certain Broadway Film. There's also Chiquitita which was used for a certain movie if I could recall. There's the Winner Takes It All song and a whole lot more. Dancing Queen was even one of the greatest gay anthem in history. Though ABBA was not quite big in the US but WW they were the most successful pop co-ed group that paved the way to a lot of pop groups of today, take One Direction as a modern example |
Where's "Take A Chance On Me" in this post?
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
One example of Madge's CULTURAL IMPACT that rivals that of ABBA.
GO!
And I never fib, so I'm already sure your response will be highly amusing. |
Cultural impact isn't the same as musical impact. Madonna's influence on the modern musician and the way they portray themselves >>>>>>>>>
ABBA spear-headed the beginnings of modern pop, but they don't have as much cultural influence.
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Originally posted by ImpressiveInstant
Well, it's a song that everyone knows of course.
So is "What's Up", by 4 Non Blondes. |
Not even 
Dancing Queen is literally an inescapable song. Everyone knows it, white, black, Asian, hispanic, what have you. But, that's not even the sole reason I used it as an example of what they have over auntie Madge. 
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Where's "Take A Chance On Me" in this post? |
I forgot to include it there. 
Maybe you can add more.
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
And the Beatles' didn't? |
Well of course they did. But I'm just saying you don't see people trying to imitate them much anymore.
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I know it's inescapable. But that doesn't mean ABBA has had more cultural impact. At all.
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Madonna has had a CULTURAL impact, in her peak 83-86 she was the biggest sensation and her fans used to be like believers and Little monsters.
Like A virgin, La Isla Bonita, Like a prayer, Vogue, Hung Up, anyone?
ABBA were a singles band, not all of their singles were a success, neither her albums, now they only sell the Gold album (GH), while The beatles sell all of her studio albums and MJ too.
So Beatles >>>>> Madonna > MJ >>> ABBA
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Originally posted by ClassicMainstream
Well of course they did. But I'm just saying you don't see people trying to imitate them much anymore.
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
One example of Madge's CULTURAL IMPACT that rivals that of ABBA.
GO!
And I never fib, so I'm already sure your response will be highly amusing. |
Can I do it? 
If so here's my example;
Both my other faves and every record they have sold.
And several others in my sig.
And basically 90% of female artists post-1984.
And every girl's style of dress in 84-86.
And several businesswomen.
And "Vogue".
And "Holiday" & "Like a Virgin" being known everywhere and extensively used. (Glee!)
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Originally posted by mariska
Cultural impact isn't the same as musical impact. Madonna's influence on the modern musician and the way they portray themselves >>>>>>>>>
ABBA spear-headed the beginnings of modern pop, but they don't have as much cultural influence.
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But see, I know that all too well:
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Firstly, what type of "impact" do you mean? Cultural? Musical?
"Musical Impact" to me means innovating a genre. Plainly and simply. Also it can mean incorporating new sounds into an already established genre/music scene as a whole. Take for example, Mariah implementing melismatic vocal stylings in her music. "Melisma" as we know it today is when a singer does run after run and/or stretches short syllable words.
"Cultural Impact" to me means something that has changed the way people in a certain society live. I commonly use the movie, Jaws as an example. After that movie premiered to the public, people grew an irrational fear of sharks and labeled them "maneaters". And even til this day people automatically associate sharks with being vicious, "man-eating", animals. Of course a song can also have cultural impact, but I think a movie/tv show is much more likely to accomplish that feat.
That's it. I also don't believe influence and impact go hand in hand. |
And I also know that you're overestimating aunties cultural significance AND influence. Musical influence.
Standing by my answer, Dancing Queen alone >>>>>>>
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