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Discussion: Did 'Warrior' deserve to flop?
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Did 'Warrior' deserve to flop?
Today marks the 1 year anniversary of the US release of the second studio album by Ke$ha, 'Warrior'. Before the album's release, everything was looking great. Ke$ha was back, "Die Young" was slaying, and fans were happy. The album cover was a bit of a shock, but as soon as snippets of the album tracks started to leak, excitement was fully restored. The release of "C'mon" as a promo single gave us a taste of what more was to come. It was looking like it'd be a SMASH for Ke$ha.
And then the album dropped. Aside from positive responses from critics, everyone knows what happened from there. Disappointing first week sales, underperforming second single, tragic remix and underperforming third single, failing to scan Gold in the US, etc. People were dragging the album and Ke$ha, being quick to call it trash and awful, and that Ke$ha's career as a popstar was truly over. The era was evidently cut short as the standout track of the album and impending fourth single "Supernatural" was never released.
But now that it's been a year since the album's release in the US, the Warrior era has been over for a few months and it's had time to fully digest, did the Warrior era really deserve the backlash that it got from some fans, haters and the GP? I'm not asking for, "No, nothing deserves to flop," but in your opinion is Warrior really a bad album that underperformed simply because the music wasn't great? Or did it deserve so much more? Discuss.
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No, it is truly an amazing album that the GP sadly wasn't here for and the promo for the album was handled poorly which made things worse.
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No, the album is really amazing.
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not at all, it was a great album, just handled extremely poorly.
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Warrior did not deserve to flop at all. It's an amazing, underrated album that really did deserve so much more.
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Stop right there, underperforming second single? No, C'mon was not a good single choice and got to #20 on billboard that's pretty good, and it was release as promo single first, and then it became the official second single, which is stupid because people had already bought the promo single. We all know Crazy Kids flopped because of Will.i.am. Ke$ha's not an album artist and her label made the wrong single choices so Warrior flopped, it didn't deserve to flop, it's one of the best pop albums this decade.
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Originally posted by mikeyace16
No. It's actually way better than Prism, Bangerz, and ARTPOP.
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No lies
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No way did it deserve to flop... I'm still confused as to why it flopped. Majority of the tracks were potential singles, it was commercial enough to chart well. There was promotion for it and like you said, everything was looking great until the album was released.
C'Mon was one of the best Pop songs out at the time however radio never picked it up, it should of been a sure top 10 hit even a #1
I would love it if Ke$ha released the album with a new single, because it deserves to do so much better.
One of the best albums that's been released in AGES and the GP are now sadly going to miss out on it.
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No. It's actually way better than Prism, Bangerz, and ARTPOP.
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C'mon. Of course not
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No, the album is really amazing.
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This
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Originally posted by $ebert
Stop right there, underperforming second single? No, C'mon was not a good single choice and got to #20 on billboard that's pretty good, and it was release as promo single first, and then it became the official second single, which is stupid because people had already bought the promo single. We all know Crazy Kids flopped because of Will.i.am. Ke$ha's not an album artist and her label made the wrong single choices so Warrior flopped, it didn't deserve to flop, it's one of the best pop albums this decade.
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C'mon peaked at #27, and it was in the same vein as all of her other Top 10 singles, so it was obviously picked with hopes of going Top 10 and possibly even #1. So it did underperform. I still love the song though, it's such a bop. It should have had "Blow" success at the absolute least.
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Buy it on iTunes let's get it to #1 tonight that is 1 year old #justiceforwarrior
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Originally posted by $oldier
C'mon peaked at #27, and it was in the same vein as all of her other Top 10 singles, so it was obviously picked with hopes of going Top 10 and possibly even #1. So it did underperform. I still love the song though, it's such a bop. It should have had "Blow" success at the absolute least.
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Is #27 a bad number tho? I think is awesome, she used to release a single and it will eventually get into top 10 but it's because the GP like her music not because of her fanbase and they just didn't like C'mon (I think is more because of the shooting, the DY video, etc...)
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I cant believe its been a year omg... It didn't deserve to flop tho... and the backlash of die young because of the shootings... how stupid
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**** no it's the best pop album ever literally
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No, but whoever chose the singles including Die Young needed to be fired.
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In my honest opinion, Warrior is a cohesive impressive album in terms of the fact Ke$ha was a simple Electro Pop trash artist (critically speaking) and it was definitely a departure in many ways that proved her talents. Also, "C'Mon" has got to be the best single she's ever released and for many reasons, but the biggest? "C'Mon" is her most stylistic single, a Pop track with incredible production, fantastic melodies that flow just perfectly from verse to hook to chorus and the build up is amazing to me, especially the bridge. The fact it under performed was shocking to me, I blame everything on "Die Young." Not only did people notice it had the same guitar loop from that Flo Rida song, it was also her most generic. You gotta remember, when Ke$ha was in the Animal/Cannibal era, her sound was actually quite fresh and fun in mainstream music. "Die Young" follows the mainstream EDM template (chorus, breakdown, verse, chorus, breakdown, verse etc) in Dr Luke electropop style and by then, it was already done over and over and over. It was definitely a misrepresentation of what WARRIOR had to offer. Also, the video did no good for her and the fact that she looked like any other blonde pop star when the era debuted hurt her chances as well, as Ke$ha was known for quite a few things, such as her party girl look and "idc im broke" attitude. I can go on and on lol
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Same reason people don't seem to be here for Gaga these days, they're over her schtick.
While Gaga has generally stuck to her wacky fashion/music brand, Kesha advertized a degree of musical maturity in Warrior that did not materialize in its singles. After Die Young/C'Mon/Crazy Kids I reckon people just figured it was just another bratty 2010 dance-pop record (which it kinda was, apart from some rock/folk flirtations).
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No, it's a good album. It should've done better but C'Mon was a horrendous choice for a 2nd single.
The people saying the shooting had an effect are really reaching
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And her videos... Die Young's awesome visual effects but the concept is too much.
I love C'mon it makes me feel like I'm high cause it's packed with craziness.
Crazy Kids is aweful period.
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