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Poll: Music News and Groups: The aftermath
View Poll Results: The groups section? YE or NE
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Yes! Keep it open
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No! Shut it down
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Member Since: 8/3/2006
Posts: 33,524
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The music news fourm looks so bare, all I see is new topics of artist that NOBODY knows are CARES ABOUT.
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Member Since: 10/5/2005
Posts: 11,422
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Originally posted by Travis10
Demonic idea: What if you shut down the ENTIRE music forum for a week in order to force members to use the groups? I DARE YOU GUYS!!!!
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I'm about to shove this into "I'm not kidding" territory.
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ATRL Administrator
Member Since: 5/2/2000
Posts: 2,844
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
The music news fourm looks so bare, all I see is new topics of artist that NOBODY knows are CARES ABOUT.
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OK so there's not an active thread in Music News right now about your favorite artists.
Doesn't that just tell you those artists don't have any brand new singles / leaks / news happening right now? So then you can go to the fan groups to discuss them in the meantime? Which is the entire point of the fan groups?
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Member Since: 9/6/2008
Posts: 5,795
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
The music news fourm looks so bare, all I see is new topics of artist that NOBODY knows are CARES ABOUT.
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+1
IF Its NOT Broke, DON'T FIXS IT!!
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
Posts: 51,546
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Originally posted by ladyroc
+1
IF Its NOT Broke, DON'T FIXS IT!!
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This is the same person who told me to learn English.
Anyways, yeah the MN forum is dead.
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Member Since: 8/3/2006
Posts: 33,524
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Originally posted by TC
OK so there's not an active thread in Music News right now about your favorite artists.
Doesn't that just tell you those artists don't have any brand new singles / leaks / news happening right now? So then you can go to the fan groups to discuss them in the meantime? Which is the entire point of the fan groups?
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The fan groups ARE BORING when nobody is using them, it's been days and NO ONE is budging. So what's the point of keeping it going? Clive Davis' Party Pics are the most popular thing on ATRL right now.
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Member Since: 7/2/2004
Posts: 5,575
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I agree. People don't post in the Groups section. Those lazy buggers! start posting!
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ATRL Administrator
Member Since: 5/2/2000
Posts: 2,844
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Anyways, yeah the MN forum is dead.
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
nobody is using them, it's been days and NO ONE is budging.
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This is the whole perception problem I was talking about. It's like, if it's not total chaos, it's a "flop."
ATRL has about 1,000 active members total, so what do you all expect? Music News has a whole page of threads in the last 8 hours. The fan groups area has a whole page of groups in the last 20 hours. That's a lot.
Each of those groups should be compared to a thread, not an entire forum. So what if only a few people care enough to reply to each? That's not gonna make me think those same artists deserve perpetual threads in Music News.
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Member Since: 8/3/2006
Posts: 33,524
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The music news section is BEYOND un-normal, that's for sure.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 2/21/2005
Posts: 21,684
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Originally posted by TC
OK so there's not an active thread in Music News right now about your favorite artists.
Doesn't that just tell you those artists don't have any brand new singles / leaks / news happening right now? So then you can go to the fan groups to discuss them in the meantime? Which is the entire point of the fan groups?
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Exactly. That just shows how the official threads were used to talk about the artist and not any particular news.
It's very easy. If you have important news, post it in the music news forum. If you wanna talk about the artist, use the groups.
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Member Since: 12/12/2004
Posts: 17,160
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The groups are all empty, with random topics & its hard to go in there with it looking so messy. Maybe if ppl start posting it'll be better but w/e, lets see how it keeps up...
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
Posts: 51,546
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Even when you attempt threads, no one posts.
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Member Since: 10/21/2001
Posts: 25,547
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
The music news section is BEYOND un-normal, that's for sure.
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you're not gonna win an argument with TC, trust me.
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Member Since: 9/6/2008
Posts: 5,795
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
This is the same person who told me to learn English.
Anyways, yeah the MN forum is dead.
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...aww I have my such an impact on your life!
1..That's a saying...DUH!
2.I ever told u to go learn English
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ATRL Administrator
Member Since: 5/2/2000
Posts: 2,844
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Posting a new discussion in a group is just like replying to one of the old official threads. Maybe a couple of people at the most will ever reply to the specific thing you posted. It used to be the same way in the old official threads.
You guys probably just need to get over this expectation that dozens of people will actually care about every little detail that you post. If they don't care now, they never did. It was just buried in an 'official' thread before, so it was easier to ignore.
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
Posts: 51,546
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I, personally, could care less about if people care about the posts I make/made in the official threads, so in contrast I'm sure others don't either. That's not even the point, so let's try not to bring up irrelevant points to steer away from the actual issue. People posted in official threads. Maybe people who never went inside of them won't care about the posts, but obviously the members who were posting in those threads daily cared as they had discussions.
Now I've stated several times that I understand how finding out actual news in official threads may be difficult due to them not being updatable anymore, and due to the every now and then random discussion of the artist themselves, which makes me wonder why not make them updatable again. Anyways, however I and others have given substance to our issues with the Groups. So to suggest we're only whining is another irrelevant turn-away from issues that us members of this forum are having.
I'm not saying I'm not willing to give this a try because it's obvious you all aren't budging, but I find it unbelievable how you are getting down to the brink of trying to disrespect and disregard us because 95% of the board is against the new change. It's simple logic though. You make a change, it is very inactive, people are complaining about it, are obviously not willing to comply, but it's being kept the same.
I also resent the Britney comment, only proving this is most likely about her thread more than anything since it's been the only one mentioned, despite the fact that it was actually one of the few, VERY few threads, to actually have music updates and the members that posted inside that thread were talking about the news that was being posted including new tour dates, rehearsals, single info, single updates, tour information, etc., while you had the Beyonce / Hilary Duff / Xtina, etc. official threads filled with fights because they were hardly updated with actual news.
And ke, really you're sweet, but get into 2009 please. No one could care less about a stream of Britney walking. You should probably check with things before trying to use an example to support your theory/idea.
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Member Since: 6/30/2007
Posts: 18,079
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The group section is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo dead
Maybe TC can inform all of the active members about the group section.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 12/29/2003
Posts: 6,311
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Originally posted by ladyroc
IF Its NOT Broke, DON'T FIXS IT!!
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...but the system was broken. Not only were discussions harder to keep track of, seeing they were all in one thread, but there were "official threads" cluttering up the music forum and actual meaningful threads would be overlooked. I know you love SOandSO but you could show your love in the group, rather than continue bumping their official threads over threads concerning something not that popular. With all the official threads being owned by certain users, it would discourage people from branching out and making more meaningful, relevant posts.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Now I've stated several times that I understand how finding out actual news in official threads may be difficult due to them not being updatable anymore, and due to the every now and then random discussion of the artist themselves, which makes me wonder why not make them updatable again. Anyways, however I and others have given substance to our issues with the Groups. So to suggest we're only whining is another irrelevant turn-away from issues that us members of this forum are having.
I'm not saying I'm not willing to give this a try because it's obvious you all aren't budging, but I find it unbelievable how you are getting down to the brink of trying to disrespect and disregard us because 95% of the board is against the new change. It's simple logic though. You make a change, it is very inactive, people are complaining about it, are obviously not willing to comply, but it's being kept the same.
I also resent the Britney comment, only proving this is most likely about her thread more than anything since it's been the only one mentioned, despite the fact that it was actually one of the few, VERY few threads, to actually have music updates and the members that posted inside that thread were talking about the news that was being posted including new tour dates, rehearsals, single info, single updates, tour information, etc., while you had the Beyonce / Hilary Duff / Xtina, etc. official threads filled with fights because they were hardly updated with actual news.
And ke, really you're sweet, but get into 2009 please. No one could care less about a stream of Britney walking. You should probably check with things before trying to use an example to support your theory/idea.
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Even with updating, there would be tons of (irrelevant) replies to the recent topic that would be stated, and since it was an "official thread," there would be some replying to an older topic. It just does not seem to make sense why you want just one thread for everything when you could have a whole discussion board.
You say you are up for trying but I have seen more posts about how this idea sucks than stuff that would be posted in the official threads. How is the idea inactive when no one is really trying to see the other side? Already you guys are calling Music forum dead and groups boring... change that. If you find the groups are not active, make them active. Post what you want to post in official threads, but do it in the groups. The music forum was doing fine before official threads, so it really should not be that hard. It was not until people started making repetitive posts about the same artists that official threads formed. Groups should help keep everything organized and it does not really make sense how it is seen otherwise.
I only used Britney as an example because she seems to be the most mentioned and I was mostly replying to you. I honestly disliked official threads as a whole, not just specific ones. It always seemed dumb someone would re-post stuff or have to own an official thread to make new posts. Not to mention, they were such a pain to browse.
Oh, and I know no one cares about an artist walking... it was just the most generic example I could come up with. I was not trying to be accurate, I was just trying to give a general idea of how some updates were really pointless.
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ATRL Administrator
Member Since: 5/2/2000
Posts: 2,844
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The resistant-to-change people are not "95% of the site"; they are a very vocal minority. To them, I say: Everything you need is there. Music News, Celebria, and Fan Groups. So, get used to it and use it.
Most of all, to everyone: Don't get obsessed about your posts being a "success" or a "flop," I mean REALLY.
Let's reflect: What all actually changed? Instead of one thread for Britney, GaGa, Beyonce, and CiCi, they each now have multi-thread areas, and you have the ability to post legit news about them in Music News. Wow! How terrible!
BTW, Reeces, I <3 U, you have sense.
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Member Since: 8/3/2006
Posts: 33,524
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OMG, Rico couldn't have said it better.
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