[chilluminati]

Originally posted by chris1991

Now that you bring up Run the World, it always was a try hard attempt to cause some controversy. And no shade but we know what that turned out.

Remember when she cursed in the Telephone video? Remember how all of Atrl when nuts because Beyonce cursed? She just isn't seen in that light.

I don't think she should resort to controversy this era, the superbowl performance was good enough to get the public's attention in a good way. She doesn't need all this cursing.

Please post proof of how RTW could have potentially caused "controversy"... the delusion is shining bright like a cubic zirconia.

[chris1991]

Originally posted by Callisto.

You can't reason with a retard.

Classy. Just like your fave, resorting to vulgar language for attention.

[Nippy'sReceipts]

Originally posted by chris1991

you're*

Videophone was anything but revealing, it was like a G or PG rated movie.

I hate Bow Down and think it's beneath Beyonce and yes her badgirl act on social media is phony as hell but the Navy is really trying it saying Rihanna is the creator of ratchet. Did Destiny's Child not exist? DC's whole signature was ratchet anthems. "Can he pay yo bills, can he pay yo telephone bill, can he pay yo automo bill, if you can than maybe we can chill."
"Ladies leave ya man at home, the club is full of ballas and they pockets full of grown."
"I dont think ya ready fo this jelly" "Eyes be so low from the chiefin, Know how to flip that money 3 way''.
Rihanna only has like 3 ratchet songs (Cockiness, Cake, and Pour It Up) so let's not.

[ifyouseekLEM]

Originally posted by swissman

Do you think Bow Down is along the lines of Cockiness and Birthday Cake?

Yes, and that's my point --- Beyonce wasn't acting in such a way until Rihanna made it ACCEPTABLE to act in such a way. Sure she might have cussed and released urban tracks before....but not at this magnitude. Without Rihanna paving the way - would Beyonce have EVER released a buzz track like that?

[BnPac]

Originally posted by Nicole

I don't get it. Don't people here always say Beyonce is ghetto? If that's the case then "ratchet" (I hate that word) is consistent with that.

A mess.

Originally posted by chris1991

Now that you bring up Run the World, it always was a try hard attempt to cause some controversy. And no shade but we know what that turned out.

Remember when she cursed in the Telephone video? Remember how all of Atrl when nuts because Beyonce cursed? She just isn't seen in that light.

I don't think she should resort to controversy this era, the superbowl performance was good enough to get the public's attention in a good way. She doesn't need all this cursing.

She cursed in "Resentment", "Diva" and plenty other songs that happened before "Telephone". Your point is irrelevant. Let's do it again.

[PULSE.]

I'm done with this stupid azz topic.

[GreasyBruce]

Well she's being somewhat controversial but the thing is she has no music out at the same time...she got half the equation right, but not the most important part: actually having something that will benefit from that controversy

[BnPac]

Originally posted by chris1991

Classy. Just like your fave, resorting to vulgar language for attention.

You're right, he is a navy member after all.

Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts

I hate Bow Down and think it's beneath Beyonce and yes her badgirl act on social media is phony as hell but the Navy is really trying it saying Rihanna is the creator of ratchet. Did Destiny's Child not exist? DC's whole signature was ratchet anthems. "Can he pay yo bills, can he pay yo telephone bill, can he pay yo automo bill, if you can than maybe we can chill."
"Ladies leave ya man at home, the club is full of ballas and they pockets full of grown."
"I dont think ya ready fo this jelly" "Eyes be so low from the chiefin, Know how to flip that money 3 way''.
Rihanna only has like 3 ratchet songs (Cockiness, Cake, and Pour It Up) so let's not.

I never agree with you but I'l just bold this part since it's a fact and I wish some Atrlers will dig a little bit in something they know nothing of.

[chris1991]

Originally posted by chilluminati

Please post proof of how RTW could have potentially caused "controversy"... the delusion is shining bright like a cubic zirconia.

I said that she attempted to make it controversial but it didn't go as planned.

[Demiboyx]

I'm leaving this thread because there is no point arguing with mentally challenged people on the Internet

[simon]

As someone said, ratchet is not a "music genre," it is just the way that a song is presented. Beyonce has been ratchet before, and she will again. But, I am tired of beating a dead horse. Holla!

[chilluminati]

Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM

Yes, and that's my point --- Beyonce wasn't acting in such a way until Rihanna made it ACCEPTABLE to act in such a way. Sure she might have cussed and released urban tracks before....but not at this magnitude. Without Rihanna paving the way - would Beyonce have EVER released a buzz track like that?

Are you delusional? She actually penned and had a song called "Bootylicious" with DC while Rihanna was still picking coconuts in Barbados.

A song about booties? Come on, now.

"I don't think you're ready for this jelly." ..."Bootylicious" was released 2001 B.F. -- Before Forehead.

Now stop being silly.

[swissman]

Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM

Yes, and that's my point --- Beyonce wasn't acting in such a way until Rihanna made it ACCEPTABLE to act in such a way. Sure she might have cussed and released urban tracks before....but not at this magnitude. Without Rihanna paving the way - would Beyonce have EVER released a buzz track like that?

So Video Phone, talking about taking nude videos of herself, saying things like "Shawty whatcho name is?" and whatnot is NOT ratchet.

But a song telling people to Bow Down and that uses the word bitch is Ratchet?

There are 0 similarities in the lyrical content of Bow Down and any Rihanna song.

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM

Yes, and that's my point --- Beyonce wasn't acting in such a way until Rihanna made it ACCEPTABLE to act in such a way. Sure she might have cussed and released urban tracks before....but not at this magnitude. Without Rihanna paving the way - would Beyonce have EVER released a buzz track like that?

So is Rihanna that paved Beyoncé's way? I mean let's watch this video and think about it

[Sunshine.]

Originally posted by chris1991

Now that you bring up Run the World, it always was a try hard attempt to cause some controversy. And no shade but we know what that turned out.

Remember when she cursed in the Telephone video? Remember how all of Atrl when nuts because Beyonce cursed? She just isn't seen in that light.

I don't think she should resort to controversy this era, the superbowl performance was good enough to get the public's attention in a good way. She doesn't need all this cursing.

Remember when Adele cursed?
Remember when Gaga cursed?
Remember when Britney cursed?
Remember when Rihanna cursed?



They're all adults. Bey may not NEED all the cursing, but she's definitely ALLOWED to curse.
Stop treating her like some virginal being. Even the president curses here and there.

[KORDEI]

No. She's done photoshoots like GQ before an she used the word "bitch" in songs before. She is not a Disney girl so I don't get this.

[chilluminati]

Originally posted by chris1991

I said that she attempted to make it controversial but it didn't go as planned.

And how did she attempt? Please inform me.

[chris1991]

Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts

I hate Bow Down and think it's beneath Beyonce and yes her badgirl act on social media is phony as hell but the Navy is really trying it saying Rihanna is the creator of ratchet. Did Destiny's Child not exist? DC's whole signature was ratchet anthems. "Can he pay yo bills, can he pay yo telephone bill, can he pay yo automo bill, if you can than maybe we can chill."
"Ladies leave ya man at home, the club is full of ballas and they pockets full of grown."
"I dont think ya ready fo this jelly" "Eyes be so low from the chiefin, Know how to flip that money 3 way''.
Rihanna only has like 3 ratchet songs (Cockiness, Cake, and Pour It Up) so let's not.

DC wasn't that ratchet though.
I mean they were cute hood girls, but nothing to0 supper ghotto/rachet like a Kim or Old School MIxtape Nicki Minaj.