[Toya]

Originally posted by OnikaSlays

Racism is believing your race is superior, something minorities have the inability to do.
What you listed is prejudice and the video was far from that.

Someone can't be incapable of believing something. There are plenty of black people who honestly think they and their race are better than white people. Black people CAN be racist and a lot of them ARE.

[St. Charles]

Originally posted by Shizuka

But what does that really say about those recruited with such methods? Believing such lies to be recruited into something doesn't show much faith in their intelligence or concept of what's going on when you put it like that.

It shows that they're pretty weak-minded people who can easily be manipulated. If you look at some youtube channels like Mr. Repzion (who ironically didn't even vote for Trump or want him to win LOL), the entire channel is just pointing out

-Islamic terrorist attacks
-feminists saying controversial things
-black people saying controversial things

And unfortunately enough, this really works. I feel like this video just adds a small bit of fuel to the fire. It makes it easy to feed their narrative. Like I'm pretty sure even I can use this video alone to manipulate like half of these Trump supporters' emotions.

[Diarrhoea]

Oh and for the last time you can be racist to white people. A poor man's version of Cultural Marxist thinking (which is all it's ever been justified to me as) doesn't have anything to do with the meaning of racism. Stop trying to make it happen.

[Communion]

Originally posted by VOSS

OK, but muslims contribute negative things systemically to our society just like white people. is it only OK for minority groups to "lecture" the majority and not the other way around?

Muslims barely make up 1% of the US population.

Literally no group that makes up barely 1% of a population could have any systematic or societal influence. I'm not sure you have an understanding of the terms you're using.

[AvrilLaQueen]

Originally posted by UFO

These kind of videos never work tbh. It just trivialises the actual issue of racism and makes it seem like a "cool trend" and create more divisions instead of encouraging valuable discussion. It could have been a good video but their approach is totally off. I don't know, those are just my thoughts.

I wouldn't say it's a racist video per se but this whole "hey white guys you're racist" isn't helping either lol
I guess it's supposed to be "light-hearted" and "tongue-in-cheek" nn but it comes across more passive-aggressive. Either way, I don't think this particular video is helping anything. Judging from people's reactions, this video is just reinforcing the ignorance that it was supposed to target. I don't know, those are just my observations

It's not very effective.

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[Saeju]

Can ATRL explain to me how we're going to discuss racial issues in the US? Yall are against these videos, against movements, attack college courses, etc. Or do we need to leave it alone and wait until white people have some sort of epiphany telling them that **** needs to change?

[OnikaSlays]

Originally posted by VOSS

OK, but muslims contribute negative things systemically to our society just like white people. is it only OK for minority groups to "lecture" the majority and not the other way around?

Weren't you just mad this video grouped all white people together? Why are you doing the same with Muslims?

Y'all are so transparent

[ontherocks]

This is just corny. I don't understand the anger though.

[UFO]

Originally posted by G.U.Y. Gaga

I'm torn with this

This kind of message doesn't create a dialogue because it automatically makes someone go on defense which is just a terrible way to get your point across

but...

That dialogue has been open and swept under a rug since the 60s. I mean there are people who think Obama created this racism .

i just think we need to find a way to discuss it better.

!! Basically this. I feel like these kind of videos are putting a spotlight on the wrong aspects of the overall issue. It's hurting the movement more than it is helping. Kind of like how everyone made transgender bathrooms a big deal when tbh the one thing transgender people don't want is to identify as a "third" gender. Weird comparison but it gets my point across

If anything, I feel like non-racists should be more offended by this video than racists.
Seems like people are starting to exploit movements such as BLM for the wrong reasons with their faux-progressive guise.

MTV is a MESS for this

[Callisto.]

Someone the discussion always ends up about what white people do or don't do and not what everyone can do to make progress.

[heartbeats]

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Callisto.

As pointless as these things seem to me.

It's interesting that Minorities could go through all types of stereotypes, discrimination, and racism and still have to fight for equality today, but the minute white people get a spec of what minorities got, they gave us Trump because they clearly can't even handle a tiny spec of the drama.

As much as I want things to change it's so annoying that we literally have to wait for white people to have a white savior moment for things to really change.

But you have to work with what you're given and that's what the BlackLivesMatter people should be doing. They're not interested in getting things done. They just want to be petulant angry children. That's why they block any form of conversation.
The civil rights movement didn't shoot itself in the foot by going against Lyndon B Johnson and white people, they simply worked with what they were given and got things done. BlackLivesMatter protesters don't want that. They want to be kings of the world and for all the other people to just die. They're not even interested in talking to fellow liberals let alone the other side of the political spectrum (Which was necessary to get the civil rights act passed).
And it's amazing to me that they still don't realize this. Dialogue is very important and smart strategy will always trump anger and riots.

[VOSS]

Originally posted by Shizuka

But what does that really say about those recruited with such methods? Believing such lies to be recruited into something doesn't show much faith in their intelligence or concept of what's going on when you put it like that.

People have always been recruited into things with lies and manipulation. Over half of the people in the world are religious, for example.
I can assure you that if someone posted this video to that stupid donald trump reddit site it would be filled with outrage against the leftist cucks or whatever

[Communion]

Originally posted by Saeju

Can ATRL explain to me how we're going to discuss racial issues in the US? Yall are against these videos, against movements, go ballistic over college courses, etc. Or do we need to leave it alone and wait until white people have some sort of epiphany telling them that **** needs to change?

Most of them ain't even from here yet feel as though they have the perfectly nuanced answers to solve a centuries-long form of white supremacy.

[highwayuni]

Originally posted by Communion

Muslims are a racialized group in post-9/11 US. They're no different than any racialized minority group. A video by non-Muslim Americans lecturing Muslim Americans would be racist simply from the systemic and societal anti-Muslim (racialized) biases that exist in the US. The US is a white supremacist society. There are no tangible, impactful anti-white biases, so white people cannot be maligned on the basis of whiteness in the US.

But why would it be racist to criticise harmful ideologies that are ingrained into Islamic culture?

[OnikaSlays]

Originally posted by Toya

Someone can't be incapable of believing something. There are plenty of black people who honestly think they and their race are better than white people. Black people CAN be racist and a lot of them ARE.

"A lot"

Speaking out against racism and making memes about white people not seasoning their food is not us feeling superior

[blaggot]

Originally posted by Saeju

Can ATRL explain to me how we're going to discuss racial issues in the US? Yall are against these videos, against movements, go ballistic over college courses, etc. Or do we need to leave it alone and wait until white people have some sort of epiphany telling them that **** needs to change?

the ATRL-right doesn't want racial issues discussed, they want silence and compliance. any time a valid point is brought up, they'll dismiss it and jump to another point

[VOSS]

Originally posted by OnikaSlays

Weren't you just mad this video grouped all white people together? Why are you doing the same with Muslims?

Y'all are so transparent

Maybe you should read this thread again and tell me where I said that

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Toya

Someone can't be incapable of believing something. There are plenty of black people who honestly think they and their race are better than white people. Black people CAN be racist and a lot of them ARE.

Bingo
Somehow, they're just unable to disavow the bad apples

[rihannafan]

no it's not racist. the video should have been kept up