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Fan Base: Archived: Taylor Swift (#2)
Member Since: 12/19/2011
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I've always stanned for EHC from the first time I heard the song. I don't think it's amazing but I think it's on the stronger half of Red. Not to mention it delivers the flawless "all I know is pouring rain" line which made me literally throw my fist in the air the first time I heard it. I was nervous Taylor was going to abandon her most common motif of rain but she pulled through at the last minute.
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Yes, it's obviously the best song ever conceived by the princess and Her Troll. Hopefully they'll have some little hybrid babies someday.
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Member Since: 9/17/2012
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EHC is an OK song imo. The real strong songs on Red imo: State of Grace, Treacherous, All Too Well, IKYWT, Holy Ground and Starlight.
The ones that are good but not as good as the previously mentioned: BA, The Lucky One, WANEGBT, SBT and 22.
The OK ones: IAD, EHC, TLT and SSS
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Member Since: 2/25/2012
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IKYWT is my least favourite hymn
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Member Since: 8/9/2012
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Ooh, I wanna play too
State of Grace: Current/Past Crushes you had - This guy who goes to school with me and plays rugny and gives me the gay vibe and is so hot and funny and perfect and :melryan:
Red: Favorite color - That would have to be Green, White or Blue
Treacherous: Sexual Turn On - Confidence and strong arms
I Knew You Were Trouble: Biggest risk you took - Probably having casual sex a couple times, I was naive and dumb
All Too Well: Your fondest memory - Meeting my first friend
22: your best friend - Estefania, javier, Luciana, Victoria, Andrea.
I Almost Do: One person you wish you could have back in your life - A girl I went to middle school with and we were BFFs. after midle school we really grew apart.
We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together: One person you wish was out of your life - One of my old friends who ended up being the biggest backstabbers ever,
Stay Stay Stay: your dream date - Hiking, just the two of us. And after that get home and cuddle of course.
The Last Time: One person you can't let go - Nobody tbh
Holy Ground: One location that's special to you - My local park
Sad Beautiful Tragic: Last time you cried and why - Don't remember, a few months ago I think.
The Lucky One: Your good luck charm - Don't have any tbh, but I always wear white T-shirts on test days
Everything Has Changed: Something about yourself that you wish to change - I'm not good at making new friends Line I'm such a spontaneous person, but when I meet someone I can be extremely shy and awkward Wish I could change that
Starlight: your ultimate dream - Be a succesful neurosurgeon
Begin Again: your current relationship status - Single ;_;
The Moment I Knew: last time you had a realization about someone - Tuesday
Come Back Be Here: where do you want to travel - NZ, Europe, India, Japan
Girl at Home: ever cheated/been cheated on? - Nope
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No, not me.
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You will also see the light soon, disco
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Member Since: 12/31/2011
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Happy August, people!
LP5's lead single in a years time, if she follows the cycle.
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Member Since: 2/25/2012
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Am I the only female disciple or are there others?
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Member Since: 12/31/2011
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Soundtrack songs:
Crazier - 2009
Today Was a Fairytale - 2010
Safe & Sound - 2011
Eyes Open - 2012
TBA - 2013
Collaborations:
Two Is Better Than One - 2009
Half of My Heart - 2010
Safe & Sound - 2011
Both of Us - 2012
Highway Don't Care - 2013
Interesting to see what she does next.
I forget, who's the musician Taylor collaborated with that will release a song per month?
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Member Since: 8/9/2012
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Taylor Swift, disco , bp21xo, Bluemoon77 and a few others are female disciples.
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Member Since: 12/31/2011
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Originally posted by Roxie
Am I the only female disciple or are there others?
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I'm one.
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Member Since: 2/25/2012
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Originally posted by boyswifty
Taylor Swift, disco , bp21xo, Bluemoon77 and a few others are female disciples.
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WAIT, DISCO IS FEMALE???
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Member Since: 2/25/2012
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I'm one.
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OH HEY
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Member Since: 11/29/2010
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The tea spilled in here. I CAN`T.
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We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together - Taylor Swift
Some Indie Record That’s Much Cooler Than Mine
Tomorrow, we are going to meet Taylor The Real Girl, or try to, and maybe then I’ll manage to stop talking in circles about the self and selves and personal and private and all of these concepts that have meaning and value but begin to take on a sort of marbles in the mouth quality that chokes meaningful conversation when overused. Even still, I can’t pretend I’m not interested in layers, I can’t pretend I don’t believe it’s important, necessary, even, to peel back the layers of production, both self production and commercial production and the spaces where the two intertwine, in order to really understand and appreciate creative output. Obviously, some things are more complex than others; I’m not here to claim that Taylor Swift is achieving the height of introspection. I would, however, maybe argue that introspection is not actually the goal of her personal project, a claim I’d defend with an interrogation of the layers at work within her “confessional" music and persona. Layers!!! I think we need to talk about the layers of The Taylor Swift Machine (My favorite moment in the entirety of Buffy is when the gang whirls around and stares at Cordelia, shocked to hear that she’s looking forward to the SATs because she does well on standardized tests, and Cordelia just shrugs and says, “What? I can’t have layers?”) and I want to start with the shiny outer layer first, the glossy pop star veneer, the candy coating that can be sickly sweet or tongue-in-cheek tart depending on the moment, but a sugar rush either way. Tomorrow we’re going to talk about precocious teenager Taylor Swift, but today is all about the equally important Taylor Swift™.
"We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" was an important moment for Taylor Swift. It was the first of her singles to be indisputably, unquestionably, a pop song. She’d been riding the lines of country pop for years (and, just to get it out of the way, I am neither qualified to nor interested in debating whether or not Taylor Swift is “real country." She says that’s what she’s making, fine.) but this song vaulted her indisputably into the land of the glittering pop princesses, and it turns out she’s a natural fit. The spoken word interlude is ridiculous and perfect and hits that exact pop sweet spot where delightful juuuust starts to veer into grating, and the glossy Max Martin production plays well on the radio. The song is not one of my personal favorites on an album loaded with more outstanding tracks, although I appreciate its intentions, or what I perceive them to be, but I do believe it’s going to hold up really well at roller skating birthday parties for many years to come, and that’s kinda what counts.
This song is very girly Taylor, it’s very young Taylor, it’s a little petty a little flip, all shades of Taylor we’ve seen before, but this time packaged more Katy than Shania. What makes it work, for me, is that the quality of immaturity, for lack of a better word, that this song possesses, feels like a purposeful choice, not an accident of personal emotional weakness. I think it’s important to remember that Stage Taylor/Record Taylor is allowed to be malleable, allowed to be dreamed up and twisted around, important to remember this young woman does not owe you or me or anyone an Authentic Self that can be easily pinned down and exposed. I swear, it’s not that I want to say it again, but there are layers. “We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" can be read as Taylor speaking a truth through a put-on voice. “We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" doesn’t have to be silly just because it sounds like it.
So, is it “real" then? I don’t think “real" is the most useful or satisfying concept to use in relation to music or art or, anything, really, because what does real mean, because why do I care what is real, because that Grammy performance where Taylor took on an English accent that was assumed to be a dig at recent ex, boy bander Harry Styles, in particular, was extremely stylized and huge. I mean, it was literally a circus, right? But that doesn’t mean it wasn’t real, per say, because exorcising lived experience through intentional frivolity, making the personal a spectacle, is a very, very real thing.
Beyond this one performance, there is the matter of how one chooses to interpret this song to begin with. In my mind, reading “We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" as purely Taylor talking to a dude she broke up with, rather than Taylor in dialogue with the public perception of her as Girl Who Only Sings About Boys, is so dull. This song trades the stinging earnestness of other Swift breakup songs like “Last Kiss," or even the jilted anger of a “Should’ve Said No," for a thrilling gum-smacking indifference. I just, I mean this is exhausting you know? Every syllable sounds like an eye roll.
When Taylor took to the Grammy stage and performed this song in the manner that she did, I think she was acknowledging the swirling rumors and stories about her love life publicly and with a smirk, and the moment felt much more about the “Harry Styles Dumped Taylor Swift Because She Would Only Talk About Antiques,"-type headlines than about the real life actual mopheaded lil bro she chaperoned to a tattoo parlor that one time.
In the end, I relish that artifice. High octane girlishness that soars to heights revolting to many, merrily revolting, I say. This Taylor is an absolute brat. I relish the idea of the personal as performance, where, in turn, the performance becomes personal, where the performed behaviors don’t need to be “true" to be “real." I want both the quiet guitar strumming and the long legged struts in a glittering outfit, I want all of it, and Taylor Swift wants it, too. And I don’t care if I’m giving her too much credit. I really don’t believe that I am, but it doesn’t matter, because this experience of Taylor Swift is mine and I am entitled to it. When I say that Taylor Swift is something of an evil genius, which I do, I mean it as the truest and highest compliment I can give, because, literally, homegirl has channeled this crazy overgrown preteen inside of herself, a girl that is clearly not who she is in real life but is a lot of playground chanting fun to indulge in here and there if you’re not a boring jerk, and she is using that pigtailed bunny-boiler to make money hand over fist, so that when everybody gets their panties in a twist over it she can just go home and sit on a pile of awards and sparkly oxfords watching Law and Order reruns with her cat. It’s brilliant and beautiful and she ought to be very proud.
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Member Since: 12/31/2011
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I remember now, John Oates.
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Oates recently launched Good Road to Follow, a series of twelve single releases, one per month for the next year. Joining him on his musical journey will be a number of guest artists including Vince Gill, Jean Luc Ponty, Taylor Swift, Ryan Tedder of OneRepublic and Hot Chelle Rae.
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Member Since: 8/26/2011
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THe outside is so damn underappreciated I cant. Like she PERFECTLY verbalize the feeling of isolation and being left out
How could I ever try to be better?
No body ever lets me in
I can still see you
This is the best view
on the Outside looking in
Like she just hit the nail on the head
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Member Since: 8/26/2011
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I felt the same way when disco came out as female
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Member Since: 7/23/2012
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Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn;
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Member Since: 12/31/2011
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She looks like a goddess.
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Member Since: 5/9/2012
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Sis.
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