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Chart Listings: Italian charts | Gaga (MR) and Ariana (DW album) gold
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2x PLATINUM (100,000)
Ariana Grande - One Last Time
Yes I'm ready for Focus tbh, her first top 5 hit is coming!
1 1 BABY K FEAT. GIUSY FERRERI ROMA BANGKOK (9th week) 14
Stop please. We're in October
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Roma Bangkok still has a huge lead. Hope it gets more weeks at #1 than Bailando.
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Originally posted by 2014
Tiziano
wait.
One Last Time was THAT huge in Italy?
I knew it had a remix with that Italian guy, but those numbers are still impressive!
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It was a hit. Not a huge one. The numbers are faked by the new streaming rules... FIMI needs to do something now. The single chart is becoming a joke.
They need to include YouTube and change the numerical proportions.
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Originally posted by Kworb
Roma Bangkok still has a huge lead. Hope it gets more weeks at #1 than Bailando.
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Two good examples of the italian "amazing" taste.
Anyway.. in your opinion, how much should have really sold Roma-Bangkok in reality? I mean, real sales only. 100k? maybe less..?
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Madonna, yas!
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Tiziano and Claudia slaying like that
Vasco being able to sell even literal ****
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iTunes is dying, they have no choice but to base it on streams. It doesn't really capture all of Italy but it should get better with time. I doubt Roma Bangkok has sold 100k, but still its sales lead has always been bigger than its streaming lead, and it's already the most viewed Italian video on VEVO, so its success and certifications are well deserved.
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Itunes never represented the most popular song in the country not now, not five years ago when the #1 song used to sell 2k
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Originally posted by Kworb
iTunes is dying, they have no choice but to base it on streams. It doesn't really capture all of Italy but it should get better with time. I doubt Roma Bangkok has sold 100k, but still its sales lead has always been bigger than its streaming lead, and it's already the most viewed Italian video on VEVO, so its success and certifications are well deserved.
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Maybe this is right for R-B. But it's more like the exception than the rule. We've seen a lot of underserved certifications. Especially the lower one, like gold and platinum. And Spotify has too much power, while it's still not representative of the italians large tastes and preferences. They need to add YT now and change the proportions. Real quick.
Itunes still needs to be better valued than Spotify and YT. And they could add a point system for radio play too (at least for the chart, not for the certification system).
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iTunes still did a better job, at least songs by older Italian artists did well on there. The new songs by Negramaro and Luca Carboni are definitely hits but they are nowhere to be found on the Spotify chart.
It might get even worse when they add YouTube to the singles chart (they already confirmed they are working on this).
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Originally posted by Mat.91
Maybe this is right for R-B. But it's more like the exception than the rule. We've seen a lot of underserved certifications. Especially the lower one, like gold and platinum. And Spotify has too much power, while it's still not representative of the italians large tastes and preferences. They need to add YT now and change the proportions. Real quick.
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Yeah it is a bit messy. For example the J-Ax album could end up with every track certified gold, only because of streams. The intro is already certified.
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Originally posted by Kworb
iTunes still did a better job, at least songs by older Italian artists did well on there. The new songs by Negramaro and Luca Carboni are definitely hits but they are nowhere to be found on the Spotify chart.
It might get even worse when they add YouTube to the singles chart (they already confirmed they are working on this).
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That's because the adult public still isn't into Spotify. Like they weren't into iTunes at first. But the situation is already changing a bit.
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All of my friends download music illegally and none of them have ever bought a song on iTunes, because they don't want to spend money on music. Streaming, especially YT, is more accurate than iTunes, that's for sure.
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Roma Bangkok slaying that hard. I love that song.
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Albums that have not been outsold since their release
Sales | Release Date | Album | 1,350,000 | Nov 2000 | Adriano Celentano - Esco di rado e parlo ancora meno | 1,200,000 | Nov 2000 | The Beatles - 1 | 1,000,000+ | Mar 2003 | Eros Ramazzotti - 9 | 1,000,000 | Apr 2004 | Vasco Rossi - Buoni o cattivi | 800,000 | Oct 2005 | Eros Ramazzotti - Calma apparente | 750,000 | Nov 2006 | Laura Pausini - Io canto | 680,000 | Nov 2006 | Elisa - Soundtrack '96-'06 | 660,000 | Oct 2007 | Eros Ramazzotti - e² | 650,000 | Jan 2008 | Jovanotti - Safari | 620,000 | Nov 2008 | Tiziano Ferro - Alla mia età | 510,000 | Mar 2011 | Vasco Rossi - Vivere o niente | 430,000 | Nov 2011 | Tiziano Ferro - L'amore è una cosa semplice | 350,000 | Nov 2013 | Ligabue - Mondovisione | 300,000 | Nov 2014 | Tiziano Ferro - TZN - The Best of Tiziano Ferro | 210,000 | Feb 2015 | Jovanotti - Lorenzo 2015 cc. | 180,000 | May 2015 | The Kolors - Out |
Another way to view the industry's collapse
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OMG! I thought you mean Sex & Love when you posted Enrique charting in albums instead of UNO. It was released in 2008. Do you know how much has sold?
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Originally posted by AMusic
OMG! I thought you mean Sex & Love when you posted Enrique charting in albums instead of UNO. It was released in 2008. Do you know how much has sold?
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This is a new version of Uno for the Italian market, it was released a few months ago:
http://www.universalmusic.it/pop/art...dp=31506907435
It sold about 6k so far.
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Kworb, do you know Katy's receipt for the OOTB era? I can't find nothing on fimi.it :/
One Last Time is still #46 on Spotify, pretty impressive longevity
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Originally posted by Kworb
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Thanks, that makes more sense
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Originally posted by Kots
Kworb, do you know Katy's receipt for the OOTB era? I can't find nothing on fimi.it :/
One Last Time is still #46 on Spotify, pretty impressive longevity
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Zago's last estimate for it was 45k. It was certified gold last year for its sales since January 2009.
http://www.fimi.it/certificazioni#/c...e:0/term:perry
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