[Trent W]

Originally posted by slw84

why are people trying to avoid the subject by saying Beyonce is the standard because she hasn't outsold many of her peers? LOL

It's no different than people asking why Mandy moore didn't outsell Jessica, Britney or christina. Doesn't make her a standard just makes people wonder what she could have done to be bigger

Because her fans and her time work like a time machine and want everyone in the present to believe she was always huge when she really wasn't.

Just see the Pepsi commercial from 2013, how they try to make all her outfits iconic(something like Britney did in her early days). The only one people could recognize was the one from single ladies.

[*-ChriZ-*]

Originally posted by idkher

This is so typical of the hive (and Beyonce's pr machine). Attempting to erase the past to make it seem like she is much bigger than she actually is

why u acting so defensive? Its a fact (u can see it): Every since Bey launched her solocareer, shes remained the supreme album selling force next to Taylor and now Adele.

Just because u trolls would do anything to belittle Beys huge success doesnt mean we have to remain silence. Beyonces career includes DC, if you like it or not. If you start comparing her to all those artists who had their greatest sales pre-Beyonce and decide to not let her DC sales be included, be at least fair enough and compare stats ever since Bey started her solo career.

[jax.]

Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*

Let's see how they compare ever since Bey started her solo career cause this would be kinda the fairest way to compare:



Britney Spears:

'In The Zone' (2003) 8 million
'Greatest Hits: My Prerogative' (2004) 5 million
'B in the Mix: The Remixes' (2005) 0,5 million
'Blackout' (2007) 2,5 million
'Circus' (2008) 3,7 million
'The Singles Collection' (2009) 800.000 million
'Femme Fatale' (2011) 1,9 million
'B in the Mix: The Remixes Vol. 2' (2011) 0,1 million
'Britney Jean' (2013) 600.000
Total: 23,1 million

Norah Jones

'Feels Like Home' (2004) 12 million
'Not Too Late' (2007) 4.5 million
'The Fall' (2009) 2.5 million
'Little Broken Hearts'(2012) 1 million
Total:20.5 million

P!nk

'Try This' (2003) 3,5 million
'I'm Not Dead' (2006) 6,5 million
'Funhouse' (2008) 6,5 million
'Greatest Hits' (2010) 3,5 million
'The Truth About Love' (2012) 5,8 million
Total: 25,8 million

Taylor Swift

'Taylor Swift' (2006) 6,0 million
'Holiday Collection' (2007) 1,5 million
'Beautiful Eyes EP' (2008) 0,4 million
'Fearless' (2008) 9,5 million
'Speak Now' (2010) 6,0 million
'Speak Now Tour Live Album' (2011) 0,5 million
'Red' (2012) 6,5 million
'1989' (2014) 8,2 million
Total: 38,6 million

Christina Aguilera

'Back To Basics' (2006) 4,5 million
'Keeps Gettin' Better: A Decade Of Hits' (2008) 1,5 million
'Bionic' (2010) 850.000
'Burlesque Soundtrack' (2010) 1,4 million
'Lotus' (2012) 550.000
Total: 9,3 million

Shakira


'Fijación Oral, Vol.1' (2005) 4,0 million
'Oral Fixation Vol.2' (2005) 4,8 million
'She Wolf' (2009) 1,8 million
'Sale El Sol' (2010) 2,3 million
'Shakira' (2014) 0,9 million
Total:15.5 million

Alicia Keys

'The Diary Of Alicia Keys' (2003) 9 million
'Unplugged' (2005) 1,5 million
'As I Am' (2007) 6 million
'The Element of Freedom' (2009) 4 million
'Girl On Fire' (2012) 1,7 million
Total:22.2 million albums sold

Avril Lavigne

'Under My Skin' (2004) 9,5 million
'The Best Damn Thing' (2007) 6 million
'Goodbye Lullaby' (2011) 1,65 million
'Avril Lavigne' (2013) 700.000
Total: 17,95 million

and

Beyoncé

'Dangerously In Love' (2003) 10,0 million
'B'day' (2006) 6,5 million
'I Am... Sasha Fierce' (2008) 7,5 million
'4' (2011) 3,0 million
'Beyoncé' (2013) 3,8 million

Total:30.9 million albums sold


Conclusion: The only one who has higher album sales ever since Bey started her solo career is Taylor (and Adele). Now you know why shes considered the queen

[KORDEI]

Originally posted by careerfatality

i said it before, ill say it again. beyonce sells her image not her music. she has some good songs but lately she havent been doing much except working on her image. people arent here for her music. they are here for her


but i have to admit her old songs are gold

So then why do her albums sell? Even her flop ones sold on par with or better than artists whose music you THINK people are "here for" so explain?

[Haus-Of_Mck]

She keeps selling well doe she might pass some of them

[*-ChriZ-*]

Originally posted by jax.

i mean if we're going to say "bey's peers" and we're not including DC that started at the same time as those in the OP, Bey's peers are Rihanna, Ciara, Ashanti.


also to make it fair if we're going to consider the people in the OP Bey's peers you should only include sales from 2003-present! Since that's when Bey came on the scene!

thanks!

[ryanpittman97]

Originally posted by jax.

i mean if we're going to say "bey's peers" and we're not including DC that started at the same time as those in the OP, Bey's peers are Rihanna, Ciara, Ashanti.


also to make it fair if we're going to consider the people in the OP Bey's peers you should only include sales from 2003-present! Since that's when Bey came on the scene!

!!!!

But that would be too much like right.

[Trent W]

Originally posted by SebaMonster

People will also remember her success with DC, so no need to say "solo career".

And streaming is the future so in 20 years they'll probably see her streaming stats too which are the highest for her.

The second she gets a flop era, her streaming is gonna flop too.

She's coming from a quite successful era and a huge marketing campaign over the last 3 years. That's why she's so high right now.

[stevyy]

since 2003:

31,000,000 Beyoncé
16,050,000 Mariah

Bee did well.

[careerfatality]

Originally posted by KORDEI

So then why do her albums sell? Even her flop ones sold on par with or better than artists whose music you THINK people are "here for" so explain?

im not gonna reply to this. i dont want any wps have a nice day

[*-ChriZ-*]

Its still so funny the Army and some other trolls do this thread at least once in a month. Like, r u that bitter that Bey surpassed Brit and is one of the most influential, powerful and successful artists in recent years?

[ryanpittman97]

Originally posted by Trent W

Because her fans and her time work like a time machine and want everyone in the present to believe she was always huge when she really wasn't.

Just see the Pepsi commercial from 2013, how they try to make all her outfits iconic(something like Britney did in her early days). The only one people could recognize was the one from single ladies.

This has absolutely nothing to do with this thread Calvin Harris stan.

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by slw84

No it doesn't.
Two separate acts...just like beyonce and destiny's child and many others.

Two separate acts that he was a part of It's part of his career, he sold those records as much (if not more) than his bandmates.

It's not incorrect or misleading to say Beyonce has sold x amount of records while adding in DC. It's just a fact. You're free to make a distinction between her sales as a solo artist and her sales as a girl group member.

[KORDEI]

Originally posted by careerfatality

im not gonna reply to this. i dont want any wps have a nice day

So basically you have no logical explanation and I've left you no choice but to resort to flamebait

[ryanpittman97]

Originally posted by Trent W

The second she gets a flop era, her streaming is gonna flop too.

She's coming from a quite successful era and a huge marketing campaign over the last 3 years. That's why she's so high right now.

A so called "huge marketing campaign" has nothing to do with her success on Spotify

[Buddy]

The longevity though >>>>

[Demiboyx]

Dangerously in Love sold over 10million?

[sychung4650]

Because she didn't have a big peak.

[feelslikeadream]

Talent always wins.

[Aleks]

It's been proven times and times again that her media hype doesn't translate into people buying her music all that well.

That's why she's still lagging behind her peers in terms of commercial success.