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Discussion: Eating meat is selfish?
Member Since: 4/22/2012
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Humans are omnivores, eating meat is what made our species evolve to what we are today
Stop with this nonsense
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by wesleywalrus
but animals kill other animals as well? are you saying animals shouldn't kill other animals when they could be herbivores?
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Animals kill other animals BUT those animals don't TORTURE the animals they kill for months or years like factory farms do! There is a difference!!
If you want to eat meat, at least don't support factory farms. Either hunt for your own meat or buy pasture-raised free-range meat. At least they probably don't get tortured as much.
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Member Since: 1/23/2011
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Gosh, Just let everyone eat whatever they want as far as it's socially acceptable.
I don't eat meat, but I never tell people to stop eating it, and I don't want anybody to tell me what I should eat.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by aloirt
Don't force your beliefs onto others, it tends to backfire. Get off your soapbox cretin.
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Only once you stop forcing your belief that animals should be slaughtered for consumption on animals themselves
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Mess,I blame Beyonce for this mess getting to stans
And yes as an omnivorous human i eat meat when i want !
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Lyrical.
I guess I understand why vegans & vegetarians choose to eat what they eat, for their own health. That's mainly why they do it. But if some they think they're going to change the world or something... yeah, meat eating is never going to end, so there's no point in arguing against it.
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What kind of logic ? Neither is homophobia tbh but people don't stop fighting against that!
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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I try to cut back on meat, but that's purely selfish as well because apart from fish and chicken it's just unnecessary in my diet
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Member Since: 6/16/2011
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Originally posted by beautiful player
Only once you stop forcing your belief that animals should be slaughtered for consumption on animals themselves
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Do what u want with your food. I don't give a **** if you don't eat meat. Ya'll obviously give a **** when others eat meat. So what kind of reverse warholian hypocrisy?
The steak was so good.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 11,186
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Originally posted by RainDreamer
Mess,I blame Beyonce for this mess getting to stans
And yes as an omnivorous human i eat meat when i want it !
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Not Beyoncé she's not even a real vegan! She wears fur and leather constantly .
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 2,483
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Originally posted by Summerboy95
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Those studies were probably funded by the meat industry whose sales are going down every year.
Plants do not have a nervous system or a brain. They cannot feel pain.
P.S. i don't care if people eat meat. JUST DO NOT BUY YOUR MEAT FROM FACTORY FARMS IF YOU HAVE A HEART. You are supporting such horrible abuse and torture if you purchase your meat from walmart, HEB, costco, sam's club and etc. Find a store that sells pasture-raised, free-range eggs and meat. Or hunt for it yourself (as humane as possible).
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Lyrical.
I guess I understand why vegans & vegetarians choose to eat what they eat, for their own health. That's mainly why they do it. But if some they think they're going to change the world or something... yeah, meat eating is never going to end, so there's no point in arguing against it.
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Oh, I was rooting for you in the HIV thread, oh well
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
Posts: 14,234
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Originally posted by Abyssy
I don't want anything . It's not about me getting anything or being praised, it's about meat eaters being honest.
Because it is a selfish-action. Who told you it wasn't possible with your budget? Because this whole fallacy of veganism being super expensive isn't really true. You can buy things in bulk like rice, pasta, couscous etc. which can be used in various meals, last for a long time and aren't super expensive. Some vegetables are expensive I get that, but a little goes a long way and you can use those vegetables for various different dishes. You can also look for deals/discounts and maybe even buy tinned alternatives if they cost less. Meat can be pretty expensive too you know.
Well I'm sorry about that but I wasn't making fun of your financial situation or anything like that, I would never do something like that. I don't judge people based on how much money they have.
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First my mother told me no, then I did the research and yes we are that poor that we can't do it. Getting it bulk is understandable, but there's nothing we can get in bulk without paying a ridiculous price out here. . We have the bare minimum for everything. Like I said, I have no problem with vegetables when we can afford them, but it's just not a possibility to go totally vegan. I'm also not in any health condition to be quitting meat and going straight to vegan. I'm sure others are. Obviously, the world will never be full of vegans, and that can't be a possibility. These animals are made to be eaten for human consumption anyway. They're tagged, filled with harsh chemicals that kills them, then slaughtered. Anyway, I'm getting slightly off topic but you know what I mean.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Abyssy
Most vegetarians/vegans choose to be vegan for ethical reasons so how the hell doesn't it matter to them ?
I'm not saying they go around all their friends berating them for eating meat, I don't sit beside someone who is eating meat and start going on a big rant about their food everyday, but obviously if you believe strongly in animal rights and welfare you are against the meat industry and as such people eating meat.
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It's none of your business what other people eat You're not special for being vegan. I respect your ethics and your views but I cannot respect your holier than thou attitude. This thread was created with the sole intent to berate people who eat meat and judge their lifestyle when you are in no place to judge! This is just a mess
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by aloirt
Do what u want with your food. I don't give a **** if you don't eat meat. Ya'll obviously give a **** when others eat meat. So what kind of reverse warholian hypocrisy?
The steak was so good.
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It's not just to do with putting meat in your mouth. Every steak you eat is a slaughtered cow. You choose for these animals to be tortured every time you buy a tasty new fillet at the supermarket.
Is it that surprising that some people feel empathy for the cruel deaths of other living creatures?
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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It is selfish but I still do it because I enjoy the taste.
I do try and buy quality certified products though, whether it's meat or eggs, on one hand because I want to eat good meat/eggs, not ****, and on the other hand because it's a way to do something while continuing to eat meat.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 11,186
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Originally posted by aloirt
Do what u want with your food. I don't give a **** if you don't eat meat. Ya'll obviously give a **** when others eat meat. So what kind of reverse warholian hypocrisy?
The steak was so good.
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OBVIOUSLY I care when people eat meat, I'm vegan! When meat eaters say "Well I don't care what vegans eat" well duh, because it's not affecting you or any other living creatures. We're not doing something that goes against your beliefs or something you view as cruel or unnecessary. It's not the same thing.
It's like a straight person saying "I don't care about heterophobia so why do gay people care about homophobia?" it makes no sense. And before you @ me I'm well aware that I'm not oppressed for being vegan, it's a choice I made and I don't face oppression for that BUT the animals do face oppression and that's what we speak out against.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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I love it when vegetarians and vegans try to tell meat eaters what to do. Healthy food in America is not cheap and that's how they want it. You guys can think we're selfish and cruel all you want But I refuse to stop eating meat. I like it, and it tastes good. But I also eat vegetables and pasta and rice. It's my body and I get to choose what goes in it
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 6,630
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Originally posted by Summerboy95
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False. In case you haven't noticed, that page doesn't list any sources, and there are several comments there mentioning that no reputable studies have proved this.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Abyssy
Most vegetarians/vegans choose to be vegan for ethical reasons so how the hell doesn't it matter to them ?
I'm not saying they go around all their friends berating them for eating meat, I don't sit beside someone who is eating meat and start going on a big rant about their food everyday, but obviously if you believe strongly in animal rights and welfare you are against the meat industry and as such people eating meat.
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What I meant dude is that most vegans/vegetarians do not care what others eat because they stay. in. their. lane. and do not judge others and call them selfish. It's one thing to feel strongly for animal rights and welfare and I applaud you for that; it's a totally different thing to blame and belittle meat eaters by calling them selfish; which is exactly what you're doing. I don't eat meat but I would never judge someone for doing so and ask them to admit to being selfish thats the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard! It's people like you that give vegetarians/vegans a bad name. Grow up.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Humans are not supposed to eat meat. Humans are frugivores by nature, consisting of a diet of mainly fruit, just as our primate cousins. Plant protein is healthier, and does not cause cancers that meat does. You want to know why eastern people live so long? Because they eat very low quantities of meat.
Now before someone replies to this, do you go out, hunt, kill and deface an animal and eat it raw and bloody? Nope. Not natural.
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