[Simplyvirtue]

Originally posted by Legacy

I still don't see how it makes her the most accomplished artist.

If I was an artist I would rather make money from my art than from stupid commercial for shampoo and coke.

what dont you get? if beyonce was a flop do you would think they would get her to endorse their product? companies give endorsement deals to artists who has the biggest audience which will help them sell their product. you should watch that interview mathew knowles just gave

[Simplyvirtue]

Originally posted by Raava

Britney.

Which reminds me: has Beyoncé's discography outsold ...Baby One More Time WW sales yet?

including dc beyonce has sold more than britney

[lonnie]

Originally posted by SaneBeyhannaStan

I think you're misisng the point though sis.

The two albums released by Beyoncé since 2010 alone were critically acclaimed by critics. Can all the artists you've listed say their albums were critically more acclaimed since 2010?

She's won more Grammys than most of those artist.

Her tours have done consistently better around the same time as them.

Singles is pretty much what the others has on them.

Lastly, Beyoncé has found HUGE success outside of her music career as well and the others can't all say the same or say they've seen greater success than her.

Critical acclaim is literally the only thing she has over them this decade.
Katy, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Eminem, Adele, Taylor Swift have all sold over 6 million with an album rhis decade while Beyonce hasn't.
All the mentioned artists have sold more albums than her this decade, and they all have songs that were bigger than hers this decade.
No one is questioning whether Bey isn't an accomplished artist or not, not me at least, but whether she's the most accomplished artist of her time overall is a stretched remark.
Conaidering:
Missy Elliot
Kanye West
Jannelle Monae
D'Angelo
are some of the artists who garnered more critical acclaim and Kanye has more Grammys than she does then I don't think she'd be the most accomplished artist even by that method you used.

[lonnie]

Originally posted by Simplyvirtue

including dc beyonce has sold more than britney

Not quite so I'm afraid, with DC included Beyonce sold 65M while Britney still sold over 80M with her solo career only

[Raava]

Originally posted by Simplyvirtue

including dc beyonce has sold more than britney

Originally posted by lonnie

Critical acclaim is literally the only thing she has over them this decade.

Not really. Taylor Swift's average Metascore is higher than Beyoncé's, for example.

The only thing Beyoncé has over a lot of other people is Grammy's, which any person with a little common sense on their heads will tell you don't mean anything on this days.

[Lein]

Originally posted by SaneBeyhannaStan

You're neglecting the fact that charting on the Billboard 200 is essentially much easier with streaming being so huge right now and physical and digital sales being on a downward trend.

Besides I even avoid the sales topic in the first pages.

So? He still selling, yet I didn't see any Bey's old albums charting even before the new chart

Sales until December, 6 2014:

#22 - 518,000 - THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP 2 -Eminem (2,244,000)

#121 - 154,000 - THE TRUTH ABOUT LOVE- Pink (2,032,000)
#122 - 154,000 - THE EMINEM SHOW - Eminem (10,457,000)
#123 - 153,000 - THE BLESSED UNREST - Sara Bareilles (380,000)
#125 - 152,000 - ARTPOP- Lady GaGa (740,000)

#190 - 114,000 - THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP - Eminem (10,913,000)

#35 - 95,000 - CURTAIN CALL: THE HITS - Eminem ( 3,903,000 )

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How his songs are forgotten if he outsold Crazy in Love, Baby Boy etc with his old songs

Lose Yourself (2003)
- 2,043,883 (2009)
- 745,000 copies sold in 2012
- 15/08/13 : 5,587,070
- 22/11/14 : 6,318,958

- 'Till I Collapse - 2x Platinum - 2,439,770 - (2002)
- The Real Slim Shady - 1,651,734 (2000)
- Without Me - Gold - 1,359,399 - (2002)
- Mockingbird - Gold - 1,065,500 - (2004)

There are more and Till' I Collapse wasn't even released as a single

[Simplyvirtue]

Originally posted by lonnie

Not quite so I'm afraid, with DC included Beyonce sold 65M while Britney still sold over 80M with her solo career only

im afraid you're wrong

[dcode78]

Yes. And I don't care for her like that. She finds ways of staying relevant..even if they are stunts.

If she plays her cards right, then she'll continue to see success..her not giving a **** about doing interviews, etc. leaves people thirsty for her..so she has that going for her.

[Planet Mars]

I think Beyonces net worth makes her the winner. At the end of the day these artists are musicians who are PAID. Beyonce is business savvy and that is why shes earned the most of her peers. Yeah they've sold more albums, charted better on the Hot 100 but how much did that make them?

[Jet]

Originally posted by Raava

Not really. Taylor Swift's average Metascore is higher than Beyoncé's, for example.

The only thing Beyoncé has over a lot of other people is Grammy's, which any person with a little common sense on their heads will tell you don't mean anything on this days.

Self-titled alone blows anything Taylor has ever done out of the water, atleast in terms of critical acclaim. That is undeniable. But this expands far and beyond just music. Beyonce is also is the only female musician to gross over 1 Billion in the box office. She's the most awarded artist of the millennium, was a member of the highest selling girl group of all time and is one of the richest celebrities on the planet. These are accomplishments, not metacritic averages. So don't lead a sentence with,"The only thing Beyonce has over anyone" because it makes you sound unaware of any of hers or any other artists accomplishments.

[iC0NIC]

No, Madonna has sold more albums and singles than her between 1997 and 2015, so she remains the most accomplished artist of our generation.

[A-P-P-L-A-U-S-E]

yes and wow ATRLers are really hating Beyoncé probably because they deep down know that their fave is always losing in every aspect against Beyoncé

[Raava]

Originally posted by Dawn

Self-titled alone blows anything Taylor has ever done out of the water, atleast in terms of critical acclaim.

But that's just one album. Taylor's average Metascore is still higher than Beyoncé's, showing her discography is better overall

I won't discuss anything that doesn't have to do with music. It's Beyoncé's problem if she chooses to be a celebrity like Kim Kardashian or Snooki.

[Jet]

Originally posted by Raava

But that's just one album. Taylor's average Metascore is still higher than Beyoncé's, showing her discography is better overall

I won't discuss anything that doesn't have to do with music. It's Beyoncé's problem if she chooses to be a celebrity like Kim Kardashian or Snooki.

Like I said before, metacritic averages are not accomplishments or milestones.

This thread is about career accomplishments, not exclusively music accomplishments. All you had to do was glance at the OP and you would've realized that, but I assume you don't usually read past the first sentence of any body of words as evidenced by the post I'm quoting right now. If you willingly choose to be ignorant towards the topic, you are only embarrassing yourself. There is a way to put a point across without coming off as condescending and you really need to work on that. Thanks for commenting so much in my thread though.

[Raava]

Originally posted by Dawn

Like I said before, metacritic averages are not accomplishments or milestones.

Of course they're not, when your fave has so many mediocre albums according to them

[Fenty The Great]

Maybe just in the US

[Istan4R]

Originally posted by Dawn

I'm not sure how either of those are accomplishments or career milestones.

I'm not sure how releasing a album and performing at awards shows are accomplishments either

[Nathan's Nicely]

Originally posted by A-P-P-L-A-U-S-E

yes and wow ATRLers are really hating Beyoncé probably because they deep down know that their fave is always losing in every aspect against Beyoncé

Accurate

[QueenBeyoncé]

She is the most honored artist of this generation.

Bey has great success in every field.

[SegoForbRIHtney]

I'm going to say YES. But come on HIVE
ATRL already does not like her, we don't need a further mess